Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 What level did your E2 test? You're not going to see life changing results in 1 week. Did you get this T from a compound pharmacy? > > I have been on 10% testosterone gel for one week and I feel terrible. > I thought for sure that for the first couple weeks that I would feel pretty good. I thought my own testosterone (about 300) plus the gel would make me feel great, but not the case. I feel worse than when I started. I have taken one .5 of arimidex. > > Has this happened to anyone else during their first few weeks of treatment? or is this unusual. No morning or nighttime wood on the gel. I would get weak morning wood without the gel. > > I have a compounded gel that is testosterone 100mg gel 60ml total apply one ml per day. Is this correct dosage? Any thoughts? > > thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 E2 was about 40 six months ago. My most recent E2 (Jan 2010) was less than < 2 which I think was a lab error. I was not taking any anti estrogens and was still having descent wood and could have sex no problem (usually). Yes, the testosterone is compounded. Same pharmacy that Dr. uses. > > > > I have been on 10% testosterone gel for one week and I feel terrible. > > I thought for sure that for the first couple weeks that I would feel pretty good. I thought my own testosterone (about 300) plus the gel would make me feel great, but not the case. I feel worse than when I started. I have taken one .5 of arimidex. > > > > Has this happened to anyone else during their first few weeks of treatment? or is this unusual. No morning or nighttime wood on the gel. I would get weak morning wood without the gel. > > > > I have a compounded gel that is testosterone 100mg gel 60ml total apply one ml per day. Is this correct dosage? Any thoughts? > > > > thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 This is just me now. I didn't do well on compounded T. I was switched to T cypionate 3 weeks ago. The difference is night and day. The last time my E2 was tested and retested, it came back as 4 each time. If I were you, I wouldn't take anymore of the arimidex. I would take to the doctor about switching to injecting the T and you doing your own shots. Besides the improvement that you'll experience, there is a savings in the cost and convienience of use as well. I'm due for testing this coming week. I believe my E2 is up. I pray for this. Do you have any issues with your joints aching or tendonitis? I did when my E2 was low. This is all gone now. > > > > > > I have been on 10% testosterone gel for one week and I feel terrible. > > > I thought for sure that for the first couple weeks that I would feel pretty good. I thought my own testosterone (about 300) plus the gel would make me feel great, but not the case. I feel worse than when I started. I have taken one .5 of arimidex. > > > > > > Has this happened to anyone else during their first few weeks of treatment? or is this unusual. No morning or nighttime wood on the gel. I would get weak morning wood without the gel. > > > > > > I have a compounded gel that is testosterone 100mg gel 60ml total apply one ml per day. Is this correct dosage? Any thoughts? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Hi alzaco some times the dose is not enough and here is a file about what happen with one goes on Androgel or a Compounded gel or cream you can end up with lower T levels. After you read this call your Dr. tell him. ==================================================== Yes this happens a lot you start on a low starting dose 5 grams when your brain sees the testosterone in your blood even just a little it slows down even stops sending the LH and FSH message to your testis to make the Testosterone you were making. So lets say your labs for Total T were 350 you add this dose of gel your brain sees this and you lose the base level you had before the gel. Now lets say you need more then 5 grams most do so now all your left with is what the gel is doing so lets say it's doing 200 so you lost 150. The reason you feel good is your levels go up that 200 the gel is doing in the first 2 weeks so your levels go up to 550 in theory. The brain sees this and you fall back. Why can this happen it might be how your putting on the gel with Androgel you need to spread it over your upper arms and shoulders and down your back as far as you can reach this is half of your dose then do the other side. Just spread it over the area but don't rub it in. The other thing is it's not getting through your skin good so you need more. If you have a thyroid problem your skin will become thicker and gels and creams don't get through the skin and you need to switch to shots. I tell men when they go on Gels to retest in 2 weeks because you can end up feeling worse. Most men just need more gel. Dr.'s that tell men to go on 5 grams of gel and come back in 8 to 12 weeks for labs don't know much about the use of gels. Dr.'s that treat a lot of men for low T on gels see this happen and test them again in 2 weeks. When you go to do labs get up and shower that morning go do your labs and then put in the gel after your blood test so you don’t spike up your labs. If you can’t do labs in the morning shower put on the gel but don’t get any gel on the spot they take the blood from. Do your labs about 6 hrs later. Call your Dr. and tell him this and that your not feeling good you were but fell back. Co-Moderator Phil > From: alzaco68 <no_reply > > Subject: Feel terrible! > > Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 7:17 PM > I have been on 10% testosterone gel > for one week and I feel terrible. > I thought for sure that for the first couple weeks that I > would feel pretty good. I thought my own testosterone > (about 300) plus the gel would make me feel great, but > not the case. I feel worse than when I started. > I have taken one .5 of arimidex. > > Has this happened to anyone else during their first few > weeks of treatment? or is this unusual. No morning or > nighttime wood on the gel. I would get weak morning > wood without the gel. > > I have a compounded gel that is testosterone 100mg gel 60ml > total apply one ml per day. Is this correct > dosage? Any thoughts? > > thanks > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Some men don't do well on gels and creams when one feel worse on it it means there brain seen the T in there blood and it was enough to slow there testis down from making there own. So you can end up lower then you started. Get in and test this again. Co-Moderator Phil > From: alzaco68 <no_reply > > Subject: Re: Feel terrible! > > Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 11:06 PM > E2 was about 40 six months ago. > My most recent E2 (Jan 2010) was less than < 2 which I > think was a lab error. I was not taking any anti > estrogens and was still having descent wood and could have > sex no problem (usually). Yes, the testosterone is > compounded. Same pharmacy that Dr. uses. > > > > > > > > I have been on 10% testosterone gel for one week > and I feel terrible. > > > I thought for sure that for the first couple > weeks that I would feel pretty good. I thought my own > testosterone (about 300) plus the gel would make me > feel great, but not the case. I feel worse than when I > started. I have taken one .5 of arimidex. > > > > > > Has this happened to anyone else during their > first few weeks of treatment? or is this unusual. No > morning or nighttime wood on the gel. I would get weak > morning wood without the gel. > > > > > > I have a compounded gel that is testosterone > 100mg gel 60ml total apply one ml per day. Is this > correct dosage? Any thoughts? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 But I have started on a 10gram dose not 5g. Could it be that I need more than one pump? Maybe a pump and a half or 15grams? Philip, you say to get my labs tested but its only been one week. I thought I should wait 4 weeks after starting therapy? thank you > > > From: alzaco68 <no_reply > > > Subject: Feel terrible! > > > > Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 7:17 PM > > I have been on 10% testosterone gel > > for one week and I feel terrible. > > I thought for sure that for the first couple weeks that I > > would feel pretty good. I thought my own testosterone > > (about 300) plus the gel would make me feel great, but > > not the case. I feel worse than when I started. > > I have taken one .5 of arimidex. > > > > Has this happened to anyone else during their first few > > weeks of treatment? or is this unusual. No morning or > > nighttime wood on the gel. I would get weak morning > > wood without the gel. > > > > I have a compounded gel that is testosterone 100mg gel 60ml > > total apply one ml per day. Is this correct > > dosage? Any thoughts? > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 I only say this because you feel terrible on this are you feeling worse that is the way I read this. Most men starting on creams or gels should test after 2 weeks to be sure it's working if they are not feeling better your levels can to down. Co-Moderator Phil > From: alzaco68 <no_reply > > Subject: Re: Feel terrible! > > Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 11:30 AM > But I have started on a 10gram dose > not 5g. Could it be > that I need more than one pump? Maybe a pump and a > half or 15grams? > Philip, you say to get my labs tested but its only been one > week. I thought I should wait 4 weeks after starting > therapy? thank you > > > > > > > From: alzaco68 <no_reply > > > > Subject: Feel terrible! > > > > > > Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 7:17 PM > > > I have been on 10% testosterone gel > > > for one week and I feel terrible. > > > I thought for sure that for the first couple > weeks that I > > > would feel pretty good. I thought my own > testosterone > > > (about 300) plus the gel would make me feel > great, but > > > not the case. I feel worse than when I > started. > > > I have taken one .5 of arimidex. > > > > > > Has this happened to anyone else during their > first few > > > weeks of treatment? or is this unusual. No > morning or > > > nighttime wood on the gel. I would get weak > morning > > > wood without the gel. > > > > > > I have a compounded gel that is testosterone > 100mg gel 60ml > > > total apply one ml per day. Is this correct > > > dosage? Any thoughts? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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