Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Yep it can be why your low in my case my labs were all ways low normal for Thyroid, Cortisol, Growth Hormone and Ferritin. Dr.'s kept telling me I am in the normal range today I know this is Bull Shi* if you have a few hormones low normal something is wrong. It was when I was on T shots 150 mgs a week and not doing all that great I got my Dr. to let me try HCG he put me on 500 IU's 3x's a week. After my 15 shot we did labs and my Total T levels doubled this means my testis work and something is wrong with my Pituitary. Mine is bad from a head injury I got in an auto accident some 28 yrs ago. It was after this I stated getting sick. Co-Moderator Phil > From: jim <virtuosa150@...> > Subject: Re: HGH and cortisol > > Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 2:09 PM > Reading this post has got me thinking > about my particular case. I don't want to hijack your > thread. > > I started getting low T symptoms about 2005. Started with > ED. In 2004 I got my face smashed really bad on concrete. I > wonder if this could have been the start of my problems. Is > it possible to be both primary which I'm sure I am and > secondary as well? I have to bring this up with my doc next > appt. > > I've had alot of face and head trauma over the years. How > light of a hit does it take to mess up the pituitary? > > > > > > Hey Group, > > > > I have a questions about HGH's effect on > cortisol. I am currently a mess - > > my doc suspects that my pituitary gland isn't > functioning properly. I had a > > couple of head injuries while playing rugby in college > and she suspects that > > I damaged my pituitary from those. I > am currently on testosterone gel, T3, > > and hydrocortisone. My doctor wants to put me on > HGH (omnitrope) but I have > > read that it lowers cortisol levels and mine are in > the tank already. So my > > questions are: What should I do about this? > Should I go on the HGH or wait > > until I can get my adrenals more stable? Can I > take both at the same time? > > Any info is greatly appreciated. > > > > Regards, > > > > -- > > Mike > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Hey Phil, Thanks for the info. My situation is very similar to yours except I'm just beginning the whole process. You give me hope that I can get better, so thanks for answering my emails. Mike On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:37 PM, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>wrote: > > > Yep it can be why your low in my case my labs were all ways low normal for > Thyroid, Cortisol, Growth Hormone and Ferritin. Dr.'s kept telling me I am > in the normal range today I know this is Bull Shi* if you have a few > hormones low normal something is wrong. It was when I was on T shots 150 mgs > a week and not doing all that great I got my Dr. to let me try HCG he put me > on 500 IU's 3x's a week. After my 15 shot we did labs and my Total T levels > doubled this means my testis work and something is wrong with my Pituitary. > Mine is bad from a head injury I got in an auto accident some 28 yrs ago. It > was after this I stated getting sick. > Co-Moderator > Phil > > > > > From: jim <virtuosa150@... <virtuosa150%40>> > > Subject: Re: HGH and cortisol > > < %40> > > Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 2:09 PM > > > Reading this post has got me thinking > > about my particular case. I don't want to hijack your > > thread. > > > > I started getting low T symptoms about 2005. Started with > > ED. In 2004 I got my face smashed really bad on concrete. I > > wonder if this could have been the start of my problems. Is > > it possible to be both primary which I'm sure I am and > > secondary as well? I have to bring this up with my doc next > > appt. > > > > I've had alot of face and head trauma over the years. How > > light of a hit does it take to mess up the pituitary? > > > > > > > > > > Hey Group, > > > > > > I have a questions about HGH's effect on > > cortisol. I am currently a mess - > > > my doc suspects that my pituitary gland isn't > > functioning properly. I had a > > > couple of head injuries while playing rugby in college > > and she suspects that > > > I damaged my pituitary from those. I > > am currently on testosterone gel, T3, > > > and hydrocortisone. My doctor wants to put me on > > HGH (omnitrope) but I have > > > read that it lowers cortisol levels and mine are in > > the tank already. So my > > > questions are: What should I do about this? > > Should I go on the HGH or wait > > > until I can get my adrenals more stable? Can I > > take both at the same time? > > > Any info is greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > -- > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 I know on TRT for the first 23 yrs my testis went down to the size of small grapes they get shut down from TRT and the HCG got them going again not they are back to there normal size. One other think one can try to tell if there tests work and they Pituitary is bad is to try Clomid. It's all in this link. http://www.aace.com/pub/pdf/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf Co-Moderator Phil > From: jim <virtuosa150@...> > Subject: Re: HGH and cortisol > > Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 2:55 PM > I've been on T cypionate for 2 months > now. My nut is the size of a grape. I tried hcg with no > luck. I only was on it for about 1 month though. I may not > have given it long enough. This is something we'll look into > further down the road, after I get my T & E2 were they > should be. > > I used to have a pretty good pair. Then i lost one to > cancer and now the other one is almost nonexistant. The only > thing worse is getting my schlong caught in a meat grinder. > > > > > > > > > > Hey Group, > > > > > > > > I have a questions about HGH's effect on > > > cortisol. I am currently a mess - > > > > my doc suspects that my pituitary gland > isn't > > > functioning properly. I had a > > > > couple of head injuries while playing rugby > in college > > > and she suspects that > > > > I damaged my pituitary from those. I > > > am currently on testosterone gel, T3, > > > > and hydrocortisone. My doctor wants to put > me on > > > HGH (omnitrope) but I have > > > > read that it lowers cortisol levels and mine > are in > > > the tank already. So my > > > > questions are: What should I do about > this? > > > Should I go on the HGH or wait > > > > until I can get my adrenals more stable? > Can I > > > take both at the same time? > > > > Any info is greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Your welcome this is why I am here I was lost giving up when I came here everyone helped me and I am just so great full I now pass it forward. I would hate to see any men go through the crap I did. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > From: jim <virtuosa150@... > <virtuosa150%40>> > > > Subject: Re: HGH and cortisol > > > > < %40> > > > Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 2:09 PM > > > > > Reading this post has got me thinking > > > about my particular case. I don't want to hijack > your > > > thread. > > > > > > I started getting low T symptoms about 2005. > Started with > > > ED. In 2004 I got my face smashed really bad on > concrete. I > > > wonder if this could have been the start of my > problems. Is > > > it possible to be both primary which I'm sure I > am and > > > secondary as well? I have to bring this up with > my doc next > > > appt. > > > > > > I've had alot of face and head trauma over the > years. How > > > light of a hit does it take to mess up the > pituitary? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Group, > > > > > > > > I have a questions about HGH's effect on > > > cortisol. I am currently a mess - > > > > my doc suspects that my pituitary gland > isn't > > > functioning properly. I had a > > > > couple of head injuries while playing rugby > in college > > > and she suspects that > > > > I damaged my pituitary from > those. I > > > am currently on testosterone gel, T3, > > > > and hydrocortisone. My doctor wants to > put me on > > > HGH (omnitrope) but I have > > > > read that it lowers cortisol levels and mine > are in > > > the tank already. So my > > > > questions are: What should I do about this? > > > Should I go on the HGH or wait > > > > until I can get my adrenals more > stable? Can I > > > take both at the same time? > > > > Any info is greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Have you and your husband had your aldosterone and renin tested this was very low for me and going on Florinef .1 mgs in the morning with some Sea Salt in a glass of water made a big Diff. in how I feel. http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=12 & t=15453 Co-Moderator Phil > From: zashes11 <jharvey@...> > Subject: Re: HGH and cortisol > > Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 2:02 PM > > > Mike, > > My Pit was damaged in an accident too and I am on GH and HC > too. > I take 10 in the morning 10 in the afternoon and another > 5 before bed. > I CAN NOT sleep unless I take this at bedtime the few times > I forget I will awake within an hour with terrible legs > twitches.... > Some people are like this and others CAN NOT take any HC in > the evenings or it will keep them awake.... > > I did not start on the GH until I had been on the HC for > about 6 weeks...at first I had to dose every 3-4 hours > because my body was so depleted and then gradually I found > myslef able to dose just three times a day... > > On a side note my husband who is the reason I am on this > forum has issues with his gonads, thyroid and adrenals could > NOT stablized his adrenals until he started on > Testosterone...it made a huge difference....So much so that > eh had to almost stop the HC becasue he was geting too > much... > > > It is all very individual and you have to learn to read > YOUR BODY AND SYMPTOMS...Because we are all so different. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Did you have night sweats and does this fix the problem??? Re: HGH and cortisol Mike, My Pit was damaged in an accident too and I am on GH and HC too. I take 10 in the morning 10 in the afternoon and another 5 before bed. I CAN NOT sleep unless I take this at bedtime the few times I forget I will awake within an hour with terrible legs twitches.... Some people are like this and others CAN NOT take any HC in the evenings or it will keep them awake.... I did not start on the GH until I had been on the HC for about 6 weeks...at first I had to dose every 3-4 hours because my body was so depleted and then gradually I found myslef able to dose just three times a day... On a side note my husband who is the reason I am on this forum has issues with his gonads, thyroid and adrenals could NOT stablized his adrenals until he started on Testosterone...it made a huge difference....So much so that eh had to almost stop the HC becasue he was geting too much... It is all very individual and you have to learn to read YOUR BODY AND SYMPTOMS...Because we are all so different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Judy, You are preaching to the choir on that one. It took me hundreds of dollars and many months before I found someone who was knowledgeable and willing to treat me correctly. And, she still isn't knowledgeable on everything, but at least she is willing to do research and listen to what I'm saying. Mike On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:12 AM, zashes11 <jharvey@...> wrote: > > > Reading Phil's history is also how I was able to get diagnosed correctly. I > live in California and am a patient at The Pituitary > Center at Stanford. My doctor told me that they began to see a lot of > pituitary issues from head injuries on the Vets retruning form combat. > > But even with all their " expertise " my doctor does not " believe in > Armour...which he mentions at each visit....fortunately for me I have a > wonderful Endo that treats me with everyting I need...so you just have to be > stubborn and fight to find the right care....and it ain't easy. > > Judy > > > -- Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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