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Hi, Tim M,

>Have any males had their levels checked and had it come out low?

>Mine was something like 14, reference range 19-30. My doc is going

>to prescribe the cream form. WTF, is there any organ, tissue, or

>cell that this illness doesn't affect? At least I know my hair won't

>be receeding any time soon. Perhaps replacement therapy may actually

>provide some benefit.

I have low testosterone, and am on the gel. I started out OK in hormone

levels, after about 2 yr started with low DHEA, which I supplemented to get

up to normal (for a 40-ish male). Then after another couple of years my

testosterone started showing up low. It has apparently continued to slowly

decline, as I had my testosterone dose increased not long after the gel came

out. Supposedly last numbers were normal, but I don't have the numbers &

would like to see for myself.

If you think this will stop your hair falling out, think again. Especially

after you start supplementing your testosterone levels.

Jerry

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  • 8 years later...

Hi SKY and Welcome,

Your dad has a lot of his plate and treating his low Testosterone levels will be

a big help to his feeling better. Here is a link I came accross the other day

full of info about low T and it's the most info I ever seen on one place.

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=450553

Here is a cut and paste on what can cause low T in men.

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According to the Great Smokies Diagnostic Lab, these are the causes of

hypogonadism:

chronic/systemic illness

surgery

chemotherapy

infections

premature aging

testicular trauma

stress

Kleinfelter's syndrome

autoimmune damage

tobacco and alcohol

sleep apnea

excessive heat

obesity

hypercortisolism

medications

hyperthyroidism

malnutrition

?Subtle clinical signs of hypogonadism may include slight gynecomastia

and soft small testes. However, researchers have noted that " the

findings of physical examination in men with adult-onset hypogonadism

are often normal.?

Secondary hypogonadism can develop as a result of hypothalamic or

pituitary disease, obesity, hypothyroidism or other causes. Some

conditions, such as hypercortisolemia, AIDS and severe systemic

illnesses, can trigger hypogonadism through a combination of both

primary and secondary mechanisms.?

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> From: SKY <subhadradasi2000@...>

> Subject: testosterone level

>

> Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 11:16 PM

> Hi

>

> This is my dad testostone level. He is 58.

>

> 23.6 nmol/L (11.0-40.0)

>

> He also has

>

> celiac

> thyroid disease (hashimotos)

> fibromyalgia

> cervical spondylosis

> degenerative spine

>

> He is on t3 only for his thyroid.

> Low Dose Naltrexone

> and he smokes MJ

>

> Sky and her Dad

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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hi everyone. i'm new to the group. ive had symptoms of low t for a few years

and have seen a few endocrinologists. ive had my testosterone level checked 8

times. the lowest reading was in the low 200s and the highest in the mid 400s.

they all say this is sufficient and dismiss me. i have a hard time building

muscle despite working out 5 or 6 days a week for 1 - 2 hours, no sex drive and

sleeping difficulty. i dont know what to do. any suggestions?

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Hi njguy I have the same problems and was told the same thing and finally a

friend gave me some testgel and it changed my life I went from a stay at home

doing nothing (i am retired) after taking the gel and use up what a friend gave

me. I went to the my doctor and put container on the desk and said this is what

I want and first question was where did you get that. I said I can not tell you

because I am not suppost to have this it is a control drug. So I got the drug

and it is funny that women can get estrogen replacement and nothing is thought

of it but when a man wants testrone replacement the whole world falls apart. I

went to pick up my first prescription and had to show my ID then had to sign a

control substance book then I got the drug. Regardless of what the doctors say

it helped me a lot but now i am living in mexico no prescription required. but

cost just about as much so i am trying to start injections once every two weeks.

For me I think it would work out better, but we will see. take care

From: njguy442@...

Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 04:51:04 +0000

Subject: testosterone level

hi everyone. i'm new to the group. ive had symptoms of low t for a few years and

have seen a few endocrinologists. ive had my testosterone level checked 8 times.

the lowest reading was in the low 200s and the highest in the mid 400s. they all

say this is sufficient and dismiss me. i have a hard time building muscle

despite working out 5 or 6 days a week for 1 - 2 hours, no sex drive and

sleeping difficulty. i dont know what to do. any suggestions?

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hi jim,  thanks for the info.  did you find increased muscle mass and decrease

in fat ration from the teestosterone?  thanks  adam

From: Jim PacX <okcowboy87@...>

Subject: RE: testosterone level

Date: Thursday, November 25, 2010, 10:42 AM

Hi njguy I have the same problems and was told the same thing and finally a

friend gave me some testgel and it changed my life I went from a stay at home

doing nothing (i am retired) after taking the gel and use up what a friend gave

me.  I went to the my doctor and put container on the desk and said this is what

I want and first question was where did you get that.  I said I can not tell you

because I am not suppost to have this it is a control drug.  So I got the drug

and it is funny that women can get estrogen replacement and nothing is thought

of it but when a man wants testrone replacement the whole world falls apart.  I

went to pick up my first prescription and had to show my ID then had to sign a

control substance book then I got the drug.  Regardless of what the doctors say

it helped me a lot but now i am  living in mexico no prescription required.  but

cost just about as much so i am trying to start injections once every two

weeks.   For me I think it would work out better, but we will see.    take

care 

From: njguy442@...

Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 04:51:04 +0000

Subject: testosterone level

 

hi everyone. i'm new to the group. ive had symptoms of low t for a few years and

have seen a few endocrinologists. ive had my testosterone level checked 8 times.

the lowest reading was in the low 200s and the highest in the mid 400s. they all

say this is sufficient and dismiss me. i have a hard time building muscle

despite working out 5 or 6 days a week for 1 - 2 hours, no sex drive and

sleeping difficulty. i dont know what to do. any suggestions?

                         

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