Re: I may have pituitary problem. - - Endos

[Guest guest]

Interesting, the one time that I did see a Endo he was talking about me

going off the T so that we could determine what was the cause of my low T.

Considering how I was before starting T that wasn't even something I even

gave a second thought. According to Dr Dach men taking opiate medications

will have low T.

http://jeffreydach.com/2010/02/26/low-testosterone-from-pain-pills-by-jeffrey-da\

ch-md.aspx

So I assume my low T is likely due to that but now that I know the symptoms

I am sure that I was having low T long before I started regular use of

opiate meds. I had taken the maxim prescription dose of ibuprofen for a

long time before that so I have to wonder what that does to ones T level.

Anyone know? Not to mention the added stress of pain, disability and the

extraordinary financial and relational stress that so often goes with

disability. I have come to the conclusion that I am also suffering from

adrenal fatigue and there definitely is a interplay between it and

Hypogonadism. So to start out with a Endo and get everything checked out, I

would think that would be a good thing but many some at least of them are

pretty clueless once your already on TRT. The one I saw wasn't up on the

latest protocol for TRT treatment so I saw no point in going back to him for

TRT treatment. My PA sent me to him because I was asking so many questions

that he the PA didn't know the answer to but this Endo didn't know either.

" That's my story and I am sticking to it. " Brett

I may have pituitary

> problem.

> > >

> > > Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 8:51 AM

> > > My urologist suggest i see an

> > > endocrinologist because my LH and FSH is so low,

> I don't

> > > have the exact numbers but he said they were very

> low. So

> > > i'll make an appointment with one on monday. I

> know

> > > people here have pituitary issues. Is there

> anything i

> > > need to know or should discuss with my doctor

> once i get

> > > there and what can i expect if i do have this

> problem?

[Guest guest]

Brett,

You sound just like me.  I have chronic pain and need to take opiates.  I

don't know if that's the source of my low T as I haven't had the battery of

blood tests run yet.  My doc thinks I have adrenal fatigue.  Interesting....

Bill

 

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From: Brett Savage <brshop@...>

Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 1:27:08 AM

Subject: Re: I may have pituitary problem. - - Endos

 

Interesting, the one time that I did see a Endo he was talking about me

going off the T so that we could determine what was the cause of my low T.

Considering how I was before starting T that wasn't even something I even

gave a second thought. According to Dr Dach men taking opiate medications

will have low T.

http://jeffreydach. com/2010/ 02/26/low- testosterone- from-pain- pills-by-

jeffrey-dach- md.aspx

So I assume my low T is likely due to that but now that I know the symptoms

I am sure that I was having low T long before I started regular use of

opiate meds. I had taken the maxim prescription dose of ibuprofen for a

long time before that so I have to wonder what that does to ones T level.

Anyone know? Not to mention the added stress of pain, disability and the

extraordinary financial and relational stress that so often goes with

disability. I have come to the conclusion that I am also suffering from

adrenal fatigue and there definitely is a interplay between it and

Hypogonadism. So to start out with a Endo and get everything checked out, I

would think that would be a good thing but many some at least of them are

pretty clueless once your already on TRT. The one I saw wasn't up on the

latest protocol for TRT treatment so I saw no point in going back to him for

TRT treatment. My PA sent me to him because I was asking so many questions

that he the PA didn't know the answer to but this Endo didn't know either.

" That's my story and I am sticking to it. " Brett

I may have pituitary

> problem.

> > >

> > > Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 8:51 AM

> > > My urologist suggest i see an

> > > endocrinologist because my LH and FSH is so low,

> I don't

> > > have the exact numbers but he said they were very

> low. So

> > > i'll make an appointment with one on monday. I

> know

> > > people here have pituitary issues. Is there

> anything i

> > > need to know or should discuss with my doctor

> once i get

> > > there and what can i expect if i do have this

> problem?

[Guest guest]

Brett Endo's are only good for high sugar levels unless they specialize in

hormones and Pituitary problems. Many men come here that seen an Endo only to

tell us bad stories about them. I only know of one or two men I have met on the

web that see a good Endo.

Most of the stories we hear are like mine men are not TRT not tuned up right and

get sent to see an Endo Dr. think they are the experts on this and they are not.

Most good Dr.'s up on TRT will even say this. Every one I seen 7 total told me

my labs were no good and they need to take me off meds so they can do a base

line set of labs. Each time they did this all the figured out was how dam sick

they made me. I have a Pituitary problem due to a head injury from an Auto

Accident. Every Dr. I see missed it was my Pituitary and the first 5 yrs I was

told I am Depressed and on Treatment for it.

Endo's don't know crap about his problem and I stand by what I say about them.

Every one I seen only made me sicker each time I ended up off work on sick

leave. And each time I was taken off TRT it took longer to get back to work my

levels would not come back up fast it took longer and longer to get my levels

back up.

My heart Dr. was an Endo in Italy treating hormones and Pituitary problems

before he came to the USA when he got here there was not much use for this kind

of Dr. so he became a Heart Dr. lucky for me my Dr. knows him and sent me to

him. Even he says Endos in here are not up on hormones even Thyroid problems.

Most Endo's over seas are good at this but now here.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: <chris_withall@...>

> > Subject: Re: I may have pituitary

> problem.

> >

> > Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 6:16 PM

> > Philip

> >

> > Dont be so dismissive of the Endocronologist; they are

> the

> > Pituitary gland experts. If this guy has a pituitary

> problem

> > then thats the guy he should be seeing.

> >

> > As your problem is as you claim, with your testies,

> then

> > maybe the endo was not the right person to fix your

> > problem.

> > But he should have at least been able to tell you the

> prob

> > wasnt with your PG.

> >

> >

> > For me, it was the right person, and incidently the

> only

> > one who actually took any " real " notice and gave

> povided an

> > understanding of all the things I had been complaining

> about

> > for the last 2 decades that the other Dr had fobbed of

> as

> > " growing older " .

> >

> > Chris

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > From: Nitti <bk_nitti@...>

> > > > Subject: I may have

> pituitary

> > problem.

> > > >

> > > > Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 8:51 AM

> > > > My urologist suggest i see an

> > > > endocrinologist because my LH and FSH is so

> low,

> > I don't

> > > > have the exact numbers but he said they were

> very

> > low. So

> > > > i'll make an appointment with one on monday.

> I

> > know

> > > > people here have pituitary issues. Is there

> > anything i

> > > > need to know or should discuss with my

> doctor

> > once i get

> > > > there and what can i expect if i do have

> this

> > problem?

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

The endo I went to see said she didn't believe in TRT for men. Never saw her

again.

________________________________

From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>

Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 12:34:54 PM

Subject: Re: I may have pituitary problem. - - Endos

Brett Endo's are only good for high sugar levels unless they specialize in

hormones and Pituitary problems. Many men come here that seen an Endo only to

tell us bad stories about them. I only know of one or two men I have met on the

web that see a good Endo.

Most of the stories we hear are like mine men are not TRT not tuned up right and

get sent to see an Endo Dr. think they are the experts on this and they are not.

Most good Dr.'s up on TRT will even say this. Every one I seen 7 total told me

my labs were no good and they need to take me off meds so they can do a base

line set of labs. Each time they did this all the figured out was how dam sick

they made me. I have a Pituitary problem due to a head injury from an Auto

Accident. Every Dr. I see missed it was my Pituitary and the first 5 yrs I was

told I am Depressed and on Treatment for it.

Endo's don't know crap about his problem and I stand by what I say about them.

Every one I seen only made me sicker each time I ended up off work on sick

leave. And each time I was taken off TRT it took longer to get back to work my

levels would not come back up fast it took longer and longer to get my levels

back up.

My heart Dr. was an Endo in Italy treating hormones and Pituitary problems

before he came to the USA when he got here there was not much use for this kind

of Dr. so he became a Heart Dr. lucky for me my Dr. knows him and sent me to

him. Even he says Endos in here are not up on hormones even Thyroid problems.

Most Endo's over seas are good at this but now here.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: <chris_withall>

> > Subject: Re: I may have pituitary

> problem.

> >

> > Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 6:16 PM

> > Philip

> >

> > Dont be so dismissive of the Endocronologist; they are

> the

> > Pituitary gland experts. If this guy has a pituitary

> problem

> > then thats the guy he should be seeing.

> >

> > As your problem is as you claim, with your testies,

> then

> > maybe the endo was not the right person to fix your

> > problem.

> > But he should have at least been able to tell you the

> prob

> > wasnt with your PG.

> >

> >

> > For me, it was the right person, and incidently the

> only

> > one who actually took any " real " notice and gave

> povided an

> > understanding of all the things I had been complaining

> about

> > for the last 2 decades that the other Dr had fobbed of

> as

> > " growing older " .

> >

> > Chris

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > From: Nitti <bk_nitti@.. .>

> > > > Subject: I may have

> pituitary

> > problem.

> > > >

> > > > Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 8:51 AM

> > > > My urologist suggest i see an

> > > > endocrinologist because my LH and FSH is so

> low,

> > I don't

> > > > have the exact numbers but he said they were

> very

> > low. So

> > > > i'll make an appointment with one on monday.

> I

> > know

> > > > people here have pituitary issues. Is there

> > anything i

> > > > need to know or should discuss with my

> doctor

> > once i get

> > > > there and what can i expect if i do have

> this

> > problem?

>

>

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