Re: Maybe getting near the sweet spot with E2

[Guest guest]

with me Levitra is the best!!  I order the generic from ADC and take the full

20 mg pill.  It works that night after an hour or so AND the next morning.  If

E2 is sky high--nothing works!!!! 

If e2 is just right-- I need nothing for good sex but still usually take

something to get a rockhard cock so we can change positions and do it for awhile

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From: ed <edhill_2006@...>

Sent: Tue, June 29, 2010 11:03:28 AM

Subject: Maybe getting near the sweet spot with E2

 

Took a Levitra last night, and it worked pretty good. So maybe my E2 is close to

where it needs to be. Been taking 1/4mg of arimidex EOD, so far two doses. Maybe

I should see if I even need to take an ED pill tonight. I have no idea where my

T level is. I would suspect it probably went up a little from where it was 2

months ago at 382. I have some HCG coming in, as I ordered some out of

frustration, when the Ed pills stopped working. Should I try HCG to see if it

increases my T. Is this something you have to be on for life? I was thinking

that it probably could not hurt to give a try.

[Guest guest]

I tell men to stick with the dose of Arimidex they started on until wood stops.

When your to low your wood will die and taking a pill will not get it up. This

is when you stop taking it until your wood comes back the day it dose your go

back on the Arimidex but do less like every 3 days.

As for HCG you don't need it for life some say you can even cycle it if your

just adding it to your TRT.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: ed <edhill_2006@...>

> Subject: Maybe getting near the sweet spot with E2

>

> Date: Tuesday, June 29, 2010, 12:03 PM

> Took a Levitra last night, and it

> worked pretty good. So maybe my E2 is close to where it

> needs to be. Been taking 1/4mg of arimidex EOD, so far two

> doses. Maybe I should see if I even need to take an ED pill

> tonight. I have no idea where my T level is. I would suspect

> it probably went up a little from where it was 2 months ago

> at 382. I have some HCG coming in, as I ordered some out of

> frustration, when the Ed pills stopped working. Should I try

> HCG to see if it increases my T. Is this something you have

> to be on for life? I was thinking that it probably could not

> hurt to give a try.

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

See we are all different Livitra did not work good for me. So I do Cialis 20

mgs every 3 days this keep night time good going and I don't have to wait for a

pill to work. And my Heart Dr. says it's good for my heart taking it this way

or 5 mgs everyday. Once most men have a ED problem it's always on there mind

will it work when we go to have sex and this worry kills it the pill gets you

pasted this.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Big Biceps <biceps72@...>

> Subject: Re: Maybe getting near the sweet spot with E2

>

> Date: Tuesday, June 29, 2010, 12:13 PM

> with me Levitra is the best!!  I

> order the generic from ADC and take the full 20 mg pill. 

> It works that night after an hour or so AND the next

> morning.  If E2 is sky high--nothing works!!!! 

> If e2 is just right-- I need nothing for good sex but still

> usually take something to get a rockhard cock so we can

> change positions and do it for awhile

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: ed <edhill_2006@...>

>

> Sent: Tue, June 29, 2010 11:03:28 AM

> Subject: Maybe getting near the sweet spot

> with E2

>

>  

> Took a Levitra last night, and it worked pretty good. So

> maybe my E2 is close to where it needs to be. Been taking

> 1/4mg of arimidex EOD, so far two doses. Maybe I should see

> if I even need to take an ED pill tonight. I have no idea

> where my T level is. I would suspect it probably went up a

> little from where it was 2 months ago at 382. I have some

> HCG coming in, as I ordered some out of frustration, when

> the Ed pills stopped working. Should I try HCG to see if it

> increases my T. Is this something you have to be on for

> life? I was thinking that it probably could not hurt to give

> a try.

>

>

>

>

>

>      

>

>

[Guest guest]

Phil,

I just found out the " Wood Test " didn't work for me. I finally got my E2

test from way back May 10th my E2 was way down to only " 6 " and I have never

ever have lost the ability to get wood ever since I have been on TRT.

I had taken 1/3 of Arimidex two days before this test because I was

getting emotional feeling. Usually a sign to me that the E2 is getting up.

It worked I stopped feeling so emotional. Pryor to that I had not taken any

Arimidex for 10 days. I am very surprised to see that I was that low just a

couple of days after I thought I was high because of the way I was feeling

emotional. Now I am not sure what to think.

Before that we had been discussing the side effects I was having from

the Arimidex. You said you thought I had gone low then but we decided

because I hadn't lost the wood I must not have gone to low. Maybe I had

considering this E2 test at 6 just a couple weeks later. Or do you think

just that 1/3 Arimidex 2 days before could have done that all by itself? My

first E2 test was 59.

Now I am taking Dim so it really doesn't mater but apparently the " wood

test " doesn't work on me. Brett

Re: Maybe getting near the sweet spot with E2

I tell men to stick with the dose of Arimidex they started on until wood

stops. When your to low your wood will die and taking a pill will not get it

up. This is when you stop taking it until your wood comes back the day it

dose your go back on the Arimidex but do less like every 3 days.

As for HCG you don't need it for life some say you can even cycle it if your

just adding it to your TRT.

Co-Moderator

Phil

[Guest guest]

Hi Brett,

Two things could be going on here the labs are wrong and if you did the Ultra

test at Quest this happens all the time. The new not so great test has a lot of

problems with it. To many times it has told men that were high they were to

low. It's so bad that even Dr. stopped using Quest. Because of this

problem a lot of men that were leveled and in the sweet spot for Estradiol got

all messed up.

If you did not have this test and you had strong night time and morning wood the

morning of this test I would say the test was bad. I have lost count as to how

many times my hormone lab have been in error and my Dr. had to re order them.

This has happened so many times my Dr. now never makes any changes to my meds

until he see a second test to confirm the first one.

If you had not wood the morning of your labs yes 1/3 of a pill of Arimidex can

make you do down this low.

I get Panic Attacks for high Estradiol and when I have one I can take a .5 mg

pill and in 30 min.'s the attack and Panic feelings are gone so in some men it

works fast. Dr. says men need to be on it 5 weeks to get the full effect

of the med. I feel his point on about this after 5 weeks taking Arimidex it

will work very fast.

On the days I take my Arimidex I can tell you I get a window of time where I

can't get it up after taking the pill. I feel this is because the pill took me

down to low and later on in the day levels would come back up.

But then again I have see and heard it all you might be this low and still

getting wood strange.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Brett Savage <brshop@...>

> Subject: Re: Maybe getting near the sweet spot with E2

>

> Date: Tuesday, June 29, 2010, 9:46 PM

> Phil,

> I just found out the " Wood Test " didn't work for

> me.   I finally got my E2

> test from way back May 10th my E2 was way down to only " 6 "

> and I have never

> ever have lost the ability to get wood ever since I have

> been on TRT.

>

>     I had taken 1/3 of Arimidex two days before

> this test because I was

> getting emotional feeling. Usually a sign to me that the E2

> is getting up.

> It worked I stopped feeling so emotional.  Pryor to

> that I had not taken any

> Arimidex for 10 days.  I am very surprised to see that

> I was that low just a

> couple of days after I thought I was high because of the

> way I was feeling

> emotional.  Now I am not sure what to think.

>     Before that we had been discussing the side

> effects I was having from

> the Arimidex.  You said you thought I had gone low

> then but we decided

> because I hadn't lost the wood I must not have gone to

> low.  Maybe I had

> considering this E2 test at 6 just a couple weeks

> later.   Or do you think

> just that 1/3 Arimidex 2 days before could have done that

> all by itself?  My

> first E2 test was 59.

> Now I am taking Dim so it really doesn't mater but

> apparently the " wood

> test " doesn't work on me.  Brett

> Re: Maybe getting near the sweet

> spot with E2

>

>

> I tell men to stick with the dose of Arimidex they started

> on until wood

> stops. When your to low your wood will die and taking a

> pill will not get it

> up.  This is when you stop taking it until your wood

> comes back the day it

> dose your go back on the Arimidex but do less like every 3

> days.

>

> As for HCG you don't need it for life some say you can even

> cycle it if your

> just adding it to your TRT.

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Phil,

I hear you about Quest screwing things up.

Remember I told you I was having the 4X saliva cortisol test? I

carefully numbered the tubes wrote the time it was taken on each of the 4

sample tubes as per the instructions. They sent back 4 reports with no time

or order or anything on them. So we don't know which was taken when. What

good is that?

Two reports showed be below the lowest cortisol level for any time of

day. 0.3 I'm assuming that was at 8AM and Noon when I am still feeling like

crap. Anyway I am supposed to go to the hospital Friday morning for some

kind of adrenal stimulation test. Doc said that is the " Gold Standard "

Where have I heard that before? Thy are going to test my cortisol with a

blood test then inject something that I can't read on the script and the

test me again in a half hour. You probably know what that is!

Before that Quest was sent blood samples to do my Thyroid and also do

Total Testosterone for a baseline before I started hCG. Only report they

sent back to the Doctor was the thyroid. Now I don't know what my T level

was and if the hCG has raised it any. Between useless labs and useless

Doctors what are you going to do? I do feel a bit better after the hCG more

positive mood after I get out of my morning funk so I suppose it is working

but it would have been nice to know how much it increased my T. So I

reckon I just go by guess and by gosh I " THINK " I feel better! LOL Brett

Re: Maybe getting near the sweet spot with E2

Hi Brett,

Two things could be going on here the labs are wrong and if you did the

Ultra test at Quest this happens all the time. The new not so great test

has a lot of problems with it. To many times it has told men that were high

they were to low. It's so bad that even Dr. stopped using Quest.

Because of this problem a lot of men that were leveled and in the sweet spot

for Estradiol got all messed up.

If you did not have this test and you had strong night time and morning wood

the morning of this test I would say the test was bad. I have lost count as

to how many times my hormone lab have been in error and my Dr. had to re

order them.

This has happened so many times my Dr. now never makes any changes to my

meds until he see a second test to confirm the first one.

If you had not wood the morning of your labs yes 1/3 of a pill of Arimidex

can make you do down this low.

I get Panic Attacks for high Estradiol and when I have one I can take a .5

mg pill and in 30 min.'s the attack and Panic feelings are gone so in some

men it works fast. Dr. says men need to be on it 5 weeks to get the

full effect of the med. I feel his point on about this after 5 weeks taking

Arimidex it will work very fast.

On the days I take my Arimidex I can tell you I get a window of time where I

can't get it up after taking the pill. I feel this is because the pill took

me down to low and later on in the day levels would come back up.

But then again I have see and heard it all you might be this low and still

getting wood strange.

Co-Moderator

Phil

[Guest guest]

Sounds like an ACTH stimulation test

>

> Phil,

> I hear you about Quest screwing things up.

> Remember I told you I was having the 4X saliva cortisol test? I

> carefully numbered the tubes wrote the time it was taken on each of the 4

> sample tubes as per the instructions. They sent back 4 reports with no time

> or order or anything on them. So we don't know which was taken when. What

> good is that?

> Two reports showed be below the lowest cortisol level for any time of

> day. 0.3 I'm assuming that was at 8AM and Noon when I am still feeling like

> crap. Anyway I am supposed to go to the hospital Friday morning for some

> kind of adrenal stimulation test. Doc said that is the " Gold Standard "

> Where have I heard that before? Thy are going to test my cortisol with a

> blood test then inject something that I can't read on the script and the

> test me again in a half hour. You probably know what that is!

>

> Before that Quest was sent blood samples to do my Thyroid and also do

> Total Testosterone for a baseline before I started hCG. Only report they

> sent back to the Doctor was the thyroid. Now I don't know what my T level

> was and if the hCG has raised it any. Between useless labs and useless

> Doctors what are you going to do? I do feel a bit better after the hCG more

> positive mood after I get out of my morning funk so I suppose it is working

> but it would have been nice to know how much it increased my T. So I

> reckon I just go by guess and by gosh I " THINK " I feel better! LOL Brett

[Guest guest]

I don't have this problem with Quest labs just with the dam people taking the

blood if they don't use the right color tops on the tube the tests don't get

done. As for the test your Dr. wants to do I had this test it's called an ACTH

stim. test and you need to read about this test so you know they are doing it

right if not it will not tell you anything here are two links about this test

the first one was done by a friend of mine then it was copied into the second

link.

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=12 & t=15444

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACTH_stimulation_test

Doing this test It confirmed I am Secondary Hypopituitary it showed my Adrenals

work just don't get told to work.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Brett Savage <brshop@...>

> Subject: Re: Maybe getting near the sweet spot with E2

>

> Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 1:00 AM

> Phil,

>     I hear you about Quest screwing things up.

>     Remember I told you I was having the 4X

> saliva cortisol test?   I

> carefully numbered the tubes wrote the time it was taken on

> each of the 4

> sample tubes as per the instructions.  They sent back

> 4 reports with no time

> or order or anything on them.  So we don't know which

> was taken when.  What

> good is that?

>     Two reports showed be below the lowest

> cortisol level for any time of

> day. 0.3  I'm assuming that was at 8AM and Noon when I

> am still feeling like

> crap.   Anyway I am supposed to go to the

> hospital Friday morning for some

> kind of adrenal stimulation test.  Doc said that is

> the " Gold Standard "

> Where have I heard that before?  Thy are going to test

> my cortisol with a

> blood test then inject something that I can't read on the

> script and the

> test me again in a half hour.  You probably know what

> that is!

>

>     Before that Quest was sent blood samples to

> do my Thyroid and also do

> Total Testosterone for a baseline before I started

> hCG.  Only report they

> sent back to the Doctor was the thyroid.  Now I don't

> know what my T level

> was and if the hCG has raised it any.  Between useless

> labs and useless

> Doctors what are you going to do?  I do feel a bit

> better after the hCG more

> positive mood after I get out of my morning funk so I

> suppose it is working

> but it would have been nice to know how much it increased

> my T.    So I

> reckon I just go by guess and by gosh I " THINK " I feel

> better!   LOL   Brett

> Re: Maybe getting near the sweet

> spot with E2

>

>

> Hi Brett,

>

> Two things could be going on here the labs are wrong and if

> you did the

> Ultra test at Quest this happens all the time.  The

> new not so great test

> has a lot of problems with it.  To many times it has

> told men that were high

> they were to low.  It's so bad that even Dr.

> stopped using Quest.

> Because of this problem a lot of men that were leveled and

> in the sweet spot

> for Estradiol got all messed up.

>

> If you did not have this test and you had strong night time

> and morning wood

> the morning of this test I would say the test was

> bad.  I have lost count as

> to how many times my hormone lab have been in error and my

> Dr. had to re

> order them.

>

> This has happened so many times my Dr. now never makes any

> changes to my

> meds until he see a second test to confirm the first one.

>

> If you had not wood the morning of your labs yes 1/3 of a

> pill of Arimidex

> can make you do down this low.

>

> I get Panic Attacks for high Estradiol and when I have one

> I can take a .5

> mg pill and in 30 min.'s the attack and Panic feelings are

> gone so in some

> men it works fast.  Dr. says men need to be on it

> 5 weeks to get the

> full effect of the med.  I feel his point on about

> this after 5 weeks taking

> Arimidex it will work very fast.

>

> On the days I take my Arimidex I can tell you I get a

> window of time where I

> can't get it up after taking the pill.  I feel this is

> because the pill took

> me down to low and later on in the day levels would come

> back up.

>

> But then again I have see and heard it all you might be

> this low and still

> getting wood strange.

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>