Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 I use a 22 gauge, 1.5 inch needle for my weekly T shot of 100mg. I inject into the thigh. When I first started doing this I didn't experience initial pain, but sometimes the next day I would have a bit of muscle soreness. Last week's injection (on Thrursdaybehaved a bit differently. It was a very smooth injection with no pain or discomfort. I pressed on the injection site, as usual, for a minute and did a small bit of muscle massage. A bit over 36 hours later I began to experience strong pain in the muscle that got worse and worse. The muscle seemed very tight or stiff as well. It got really bad. . .to the point where I needed to limp. Today, 4 days later, it's better. Not as tender or sore although i can still feel it. . .especially when I walk. Any idea what might have caused this? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 I use a 25 gauge, 1 " needle. I inject Testosterone Enanthate. Testosterone Enanthate is very similar to Testosterone with the Cypionate ester, and really, in most respects, the two are interchangeable. I expect you are injecting one of these two. I have used a 27 gauge needle, but I can only find them in /12 " or 5/8 " so I use the longer 1 " , 25 gauge. That will help with the pain. Go real slow when inserting the needle. Hold it like a dart and inject 90 degrees to the skin. Have a alcohol swab or patch handy - once you finish the shot and pull the needle out, IMMEDIATELY press down on the shot location and hold it for a good THREE minutes. The pain comes from the blood leaking into the muscle tissue. If you are inserting the 1.5 " needle all the way in, I wonder if that is too far, maybe too close to a bone or some artery or.... I don't have any pain afterward. I inject the same amount as you. I don't rub it though. Make sure you have it the proper area of the thigh - possibly this is the problem.... Just some thoughts. > > I use a 22 gauge, 1.5 inch needle for my weekly T shot of 100mg. I inject into the thigh. When I first started doing this I didn't experience initial pain, but sometimes the next day I would have a bit of muscle soreness. Last week's injection (on Thrursdaybehaved a bit differently. It was a very smooth injection with no pain or discomfort. I pressed on the injection site, as usual, for a minute and did a small bit of muscle massage. A bit over 36 hours later I began to experience strong pain in the muscle that got worse and worse. The muscle seemed very tight or stiff as well. It got really bad. . .to the point where I needed to limp. Today, 4 days later, it's better. Not as tender or sore although i can still feel it. . .especially when I walk. > > Any idea what might have caused this? > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Wow 22g 1 and one half inch lg. this I feel is your problem it would be ok if you did this in your back side but thigh no. I use a small 27g 1ml x 1/2 " lg. needle to shoot into my thigh been doing this for yrs not a problem and no pain. It takes a little time to get the oil out of the vial but I have no problem with doing this and a lot of other men do this. My levels are very good doing this. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Kyrios Ouranos <okyrios@...> > Subject: Pain from T injection > > Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 3:32 PM > I use a 22 gauge, 1.5 inch needle for > my weekly T shot of 100mg. I inject into the thigh. When I > first started doing this I didn't experience initial pain, > but sometimes the next day I would have a bit of muscle > soreness. Last week's injection (on Thrursdaybehaved a bit > differently. It was a very smooth injection with no pain or > discomfort. I pressed on the injection site, as usual, for a > minute and did a small bit of muscle massage. A bit over 36 > hours later I began to experience strong pain in the muscle > that got worse and worse. The muscle seemed very tight or > stiff as well. It got really bad. . .to the point where I > needed to limp. Today, 4 days later, it's better. Not as > tender or sore although i can still feel it. . .especially > when I walk. > > Any idea what might have caused this? > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 I guess I did something inadvertent this time. I've been doing this for several months now and this has never happened. Ironically, it was the smoothest most pain-free injection I've ever done! lol ________________________________ From: bill_totten <bill_totten@...> Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 3:44:03 PM Subject: Re: Pain from T injection  I use a 25 gauge, 1 " needle. I inject Testosterone Enanthate. Testosterone Enanthate is very similar to Testosterone with the Cypionate ester, and really, in most respects, the two are interchangeable. I expect you are injecting one of these two. I have used a 27 gauge needle, but I can only find them in /12 " or 5/8 " so I use the longer 1 " , 25 gauge. That will help with the pain. Go real slow when inserting the needle. Hold it like a dart and inject 90 degrees to the skin. Have a alcohol swab or patch handy - once you finish the shot and pull the needle out, IMMEDIATELY press down on the shot location and hold it for a good THREE minutes. The pain comes from the blood leaking into the muscle tissue. If you are inserting the 1.5 " needle all the way in, I wonder if that is too far, maybe too close to a bone or some artery or.... I don't have any pain afterward. I inject the same amount as you. I don't rub it though. Make sure you have it the proper area of the thigh - possibly this is the problem.... Just some thoughts. > > I use a 22 gauge, 1.5 inch needle for my weekly T shot of 100mg. I inject into the thigh. When I first started doing this I didn't experience initial pain, but sometimes the next day I would have a bit of muscle soreness. Last week's injection (on Thrursdaybehaved a bit differently. It was a very smooth injection with no pain or discomfort. I pressed on the injection site, as usual, for a minute and did a small bit of muscle massage. A bit over 36 hours later I began to experience strong pain in the muscle that got worse and worse. The muscle seemed very tight or stiff as well. It got really bad. . .to the point where I needed to limp. Today, 4 days later, it's better. Not as tender or sore although i can still feel it. . .especially when I walk. > > Any idea what might have caused this? > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 I too had a similar issue one time. At that time I used go to the doctor's office to get my shots and a new nurse gave the shot and rubbed over the site. Later my arm was so painful for a couple of days. The other nurse never rubbed before. She used to put pressure that's it. So I realised rubbing gave me the pain. But after that I never rubbed nor I had pain. So RUBBING is the culprit. Hope this helps. Joe > > I use a 22 gauge, 1.5 inch needle for my weekly T shot of 100mg. I inject into the thigh. When I first started doing this I didn't experience initial pain, but sometimes the next day I would have a bit of muscle soreness. Last week's injection (on Thrursdaybehaved a bit differently. It was a very smooth injection with no pain or discomfort. I pressed on the injection site, as usual, for a minute and did a small bit of muscle massage. A bit over 36 hours later I began to experience strong pain in the muscle that got worse and worse. The muscle seemed very tight or stiff as well. It got really bad. . .to the point where I needed to limp. Today, 4 days later, it's better. Not as tender or sore although i can still feel it. . .especially when I walk. > > Any idea what might have caused this? > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Go slow when inserting the needle? Not me! I was taught to " dart " it in and that's what I do. ( Actually my wife, an RN, does this.) Don't rub before or after and try not to wiggle the needle while pushing the plunger. I use a 22 ga 1 1/2 inch needle and inject into the glute or vastus lateralis ( thigh muscle ). You want to get this depo injection deep into a large muscle. I'll admit a 1 1/2 needle looks very wicked, but that's the right thing to use to put the " T " where it belongs. Using a smaller gauge needle takes longer and you are more likely to wiggle it around while pushing. That damages tissue and causes pain. Using a shorter needle puts the depo injection closer to the skin and that's not where you want it either. Randy Hoops Springfield, MO > > Go real slow when inserting the needle. Hold it like a dart and inject 90 degrees to the skin. Have a alcohol swab or patch handy - once you finish the shot and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I have read, and it's been my personal experience that a quick stab causes more muscle micro tissue damage. Maybe your RN does it fast because she doesn't have the time to do it slowing given how many shots she gives in a day - it would just take too long. The slow method has been shown by layman and doctors as the best way to avoid muscle damage. No argument here, just my humble opinion bases on my use and my research. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I am just in between fast and slow and I do fine but I use a smaller needle 27g x 1/2 " lg. into my thigh. My labs are good same as getting the shot in the back side with a 22g 1.5 " lg. needle. I have no pain doing this. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Bill Totten <bill_totten@...> > Subject: Re: Pain from T injection > > Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 3:16 AM > I have read, and it's been my > personal experience that a quick stab causes more muscle > micro tissue damage. Maybe your RN does it fast > because she doesn't have the time to do it slowing given how > many shots she gives in a day - it would just take too > long. The slow method has been shown by layman and > doctors as the best way to avoid muscle damage. > > No argument here, just my humble opinion bases on my use > and my research. > > Bill > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 i use 29 gauge 1/2 inch in the shoulder or quad..works fine no issues > > > > I use a 22 gauge, 1.5 inch needle for my weekly T shot of 100mg. I inject into the thigh. When I first started doing this I didn't experience initial pain, but sometimes the next day I would have a bit of muscle soreness. Last week's injection (on Thrursdaybehaved a bit differently. It was a very smooth injection with no pain or discomfort. I pressed on the injection site, as usual, for a minute and did a small bit of muscle massage. A bit over 36 hours later I began to experience strong pain in the muscle that got worse and worse. The muscle seemed very tight or stiff as well. It got really bad. . .to the point where I needed to limp. Today, 4 days later, it's better. Not as tender or sore although i can still feel it. . .especially when I walk. > > > > Any idea what might have caused this? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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