Re: Re:Testosterone and exercises

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I am at about the upper 1/3 of my labs range this test last week was 854 for

Total T the test before this was 734 10 weeks ago. What we are seeing in the

difference is on this last higher lab I did a 250 IU shot of HCG the day before.

I did this to see how much more my levels would be lowering my dose of HCG. I

was doing 400 IU's of HCG the 2 days each before my next T shot that I do every

3 days.

And my Estradiol came back on the high side 27 pg/ml because of doing the HCG

shot before my labs. I don't do the HCG shot the week of my labs I do my labs

the morning of my next T shot but before taking it and it will be about 4 days

of no HCG. And I don't workout 3 days before doing labs.

I tried lowering my dose of TRT to help with my high levels of Estradiol but my

levels fell to low and I get sore joints and muscles. Plus I don't feel as good

at lower levels. So for men it's a small price to pay having to take Arimidex

with a higher level of Estradiol to feel good.

I am told when I start back on Growth Hormone tonight that later on I will be

able to lower my T shot dose so we will see.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Ron <r.hill@...>

> Subject: Re:Testosterone and exercises

>

> Date: Saturday, May 29, 2010, 10:19 AM

> Thanks for the answer Phil,

> It does appear that you must be in remarkable shape

> considering your

> exercise regime. Excellent! Your T levels are pretty much

> at the maximum

> on the T- scale are they not? Wow..that is a bit higher

> than I am.  In

> all of the discussions that I have seen on T Levels in

> varying men, it

> would appear that each male may function best on it's own

> level. I was

> initially using injections of 1 cc/ week T- cyp for 100 mg

> T but noticed

> that I was feeling classic effects of E2. I dropped the

> dosage to 75mg

> T/ week and got much more favorable results.

> Thanks for the advice on testing T- levels after a period

> of working

> out. As I am doing injections I will time the blood work

> after a couple

> of exercise free days.

>

> Regards

> Ron

>

>

>

>

>

> Ron being on TRT your testis are shut down from making

> Testosterone they

> will not get the message from your pituitary to make T the

> message being

> LH and FSH most men testing on TRT this is very low this is

> why we add

> HCG it acts like the LH message and keeps your testis

> working the best

> they can.

>

> As for eating up your added Testosterone levels exercising

> hard it can

> happen only way to tell is check your levels but don't

> workout 48 hrs

> before your labs do you labs the day of your next shot if

> your doing

> shots if your doing gels or creams do labs before putting

> them on or do

> your labs 6 hrs later but don't get the gel or cream on the

> area they

> take the blood from.

>

> As for you levels most men don't do well this low my labs

> top of range

> is 1100 my levels for Total T are 850 I try to stay between

> 700 to 900

> to feel better if I go as low as you are the Testosterone

> dose not

> support my joints and muscles. And I have pain. I work out

> doing every

> muscle group Mon. Wed and Fri. for about 90 min.'s doing 10

> reps 3 sets

> of each. I worm up on the Cross Trainer 20 min's first. I

> work out on

> Machines that take a card that sets your load, reps and

> sets for each

> machine.

>

> It's about 12 machines total I keep track on how I am

> feeling there are

> days I need to back off I also have low cortisol levels and

> working out

> lowers them.

>

> I have yet to see my labs go up or down working out.

>

> In a study some time ago I read bodybuilders that work out

> 5 days a week

> end up with lower T levels and them men are not on TRT

> there avg. was

> about 450 to 550.

>

> A lot of young men come here or to my Thyroid Adrenal Forum

> very sick

> from over training they end up with low Testosterone,

> Cortisol and some

> with low Thyroid. So listen to your body give it time to

> recover and you

> should do well.

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

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