Testosterone / Cortisol link

[Guest guest]

Can someone comment on the link between testosterone and cortisol?

My T level was hovering around 425 on gels until I addded Isocort. Then it

zoomed up to 847 (not complaining).

Same with my thyroid treatment: Felt crappy on 75mcg of Levo. until I added

Isocort, now I feel great on ~62mcg (splitting pills).

I remember reading somewhere that cortisol acts as a facilitator for many of

these other hormones. If someone can post a link to this information, I'd

appreciate it.

BTW, If that's the case, could it be possible that adrenal insufficiency is my

*only* problem, and with sufficient cortisol levels, my body's natural

Testosterone and T4/T3 would be sufficient?

Thanks in advance.

[Guest guest]

Dave it's a bit late to think like this adding in Isocort 8 pills ='s 20 mgs of

Cortisol you need Cortisol to carry the Thyroid hormones out of your blood into

your cells. When this happens you feel better is you don't get a Thyroid dump

doing this.

A thyroid dump happens when you take a higher dose of HC or Isocort to soon.

Your Thyroid hormones have built up in your blood and taking to much HC or

Isocort not going up on the dose slow it will dump all them hormones into your

cells and make you feel sick.

So it sounds like you did this the right ways and now your thyroid levels in

your cells are good and this helps your Testosterone meds to work better.

If your on TRT your body is not making this Testosterone as your brain sees

Testosterone added to your blood it stops sending the LH and FSH messages to

your Testis and they stop making it.

So when we are on TRT and sick with low cortisol and Thyroid levels the body

eats up the Testosterone as fast as we take it. Same thing will happen if you

get an infection your T levels can fall off due to it.

So now your body is in less stress and your Testosterone meds are not being used

up so fast.

If you stop TRT to see if your Testis will jump back in you need to see a dam

good Dr. like Dr. to do this he knows how to get your brain to jump back in

and what use to do this.

I must tell you if your T levels were very low before all this it might will be

the low T caused the low Cortisol that messed with your Thyroid.

So If I were you just be happy your doing better.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> Subject: Testosterone / Cortisol link

>

> Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 12:52 PM

> Can someone comment on the link

> between testosterone and cortisol?

>

> My T level was hovering around 425 on gels until I addded

> Isocort. Then it zoomed up to 847 (not complaining).

>

> Same with my thyroid treatment:  Felt crappy on 75mcg

> of Levo. until I added Isocort, now I feel great on ~62mcg

> (splitting pills).

>

> I remember reading somewhere that cortisol acts as a

> facilitator for many of these other hormones.  If

> someone can post a link to this  information, I'd

> appreciate it. 

>

> BTW, If that's the case, could it be possible that adrenal

> insufficiency is my *only* problem, and with sufficient

> cortisol levels, my body's natural Testosterone and T4/T3

> would be sufficient?

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Phil!

I am happy to be doing better. I do have a tendency to jump the gun, so I'll

take it one day at a time for now.

But I'm sure the question will still nag at me: Was it some kind of multiple

glandular problem - maybe pituitary in nature, or was it just adrenal

insufficiency causing low levels across the board.

Probably best if I revisit the question in 6 mos or so with, as you put it, " a

damn good doctor " (If I can find one!)

>

> > From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> > Subject: Testosterone / Cortisol link

> >

> > Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 12:52 PM

> > Can someone comment on the link

> > between testosterone and cortisol?

> >

> > My T level was hovering around 425 on gels until I addded

> > Isocort. Then it zoomed up to 847 (not complaining).

> >

> > Same with my thyroid treatment:  Felt crappy on 75mcg

> > of Levo. until I added Isocort, now I feel great on ~62mcg

> > (splitting pills).

> >

> > I remember reading somewhere that cortisol acts as a

> > facilitator for many of these other hormones.  If

> > someone can post a link to this  information, I'd

> > appreciate it. 

> >

> > BTW, If that's the case, could it be possible that adrenal

> > insufficiency is my *only* problem, and with sufficient

> > cortisol levels, my body's natural Testosterone and T4/T3

> > would be sufficient?

> >

> > Thanks in advance.

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dave I have seen a lot of men with low Testosterone end up with bad Adrenals

it's from the stress on the body and mind that does in ones Adrenals they end up

over working until they can't.

I can't say I ever talked to anyone that fixed there Adreanls and found there

Testosterone levels come back up.

I have heard of men getting there Testosterone levels back up fixing there

thyroid but they did not have very low levels to start with.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> Subject: Re: Testosterone / Cortisol link

>

> Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 10:13 PM

> Thanks Phil!

> I am happy to be doing better.  I do have a tendency

> to jump the gun, so I'll take it one day at a time for now.

>

>

> But I'm sure the question will still nag at me:  Was

> it some kind of multiple glandular problem - maybe pituitary

> in nature, or was it just adrenal insufficiency causing low

> levels across the board.

> Probably best if I revisit the question in 6 mos or so

> with, as you put it, " a damn good doctor " (If I can find

> one!)

>

>

> >

> > > From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> > > Subject: Testosterone / Cortisol

> link

> > >

> > > Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 12:52 PM

> > > Can someone comment on the link

> > > between testosterone and cortisol?

> > >

> > > My T level was hovering around 425 on gels until

> I addded

> > > Isocort. Then it zoomed up to 847 (not

> complaining).

> > >

> > > Same with my thyroid treatment:  Felt crappy on

> 75mcg

> > > of Levo. until I added Isocort, now I feel great

> on ~62mcg

> > > (splitting pills).

> > >

> > > I remember reading somewhere that cortisol acts

> as a

> > > facilitator for many of these other hormones. 

> If

> > > someone can post a link to this  information,

> I'd

> > > appreciate it. 

> > >

> > > BTW, If that's the case, could it be possible

> that adrenal

> > > insufficiency is my *only* problem, and with

> sufficient

> > > cortisol levels, my body's natural Testosterone

> and T4/T3

> > > would be sufficient?

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I had low levels of T then fixed Thyroid and got good levels of T, then stopped

thyroid and got low T again which made Hertoghe put me on trt.

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Den 25. okt. 2010 kl. 16.58 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>:

Dave I have seen a lot of men with low Testosterone end up with bad Adrenals

it's from the stress on the body and mind that does in ones Adrenals they end up

over working until they can't.

I can't say I ever talked to anyone that fixed there Adreanls and found there

Testosterone levels come back up.

I have heard of men getting there Testosterone levels back up fixing there

thyroid but they did not have very low levels to start with.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> Subject: Re: Testosterone / Cortisol link

>

> Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 10:13 PM

> Thanks Phil!

> I am happy to be doing better. I do have a tendency

> to jump the gun, so I'll take it one day at a time for now.

>

>

> But I'm sure the question will still nag at me: Was

> it some kind of multiple glandular problem - maybe pituitary

> in nature, or was it just adrenal insufficiency causing low

> levels across the board.

> Probably best if I revisit the question in 6 mos or so

> with, as you put it, " a damn good doctor " (If I can find

> one!)

>

>

> >

> > > From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> > > Subject: Testosterone / Cortisol

> link

> > >

> > > Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 12:52 PM

> > > Can someone comment on the link

> > > between testosterone and cortisol?

> > >

> > > My T level was hovering around 425 on gels until

> I addded

> > > Isocort. Then it zoomed up to 847 (not

> complaining).

> > >

> > > Same with my thyroid treatment: Felt crappy on

> 75mcg

> > > of Levo. until I added Isocort, now I feel great

> on ~62mcg

> > > (splitting pills).

> > >

> > > I remember reading somewhere that cortisol acts

> as a

> > > facilitator for many of these other hormones.

> If

> > > someone can post a link to this information,

> I'd

> > > appreciate it.

> > >

> > > BTW, If that's the case, could it be possible

> that adrenal

> > > insufficiency is my *only* problem, and with

> sufficient

> > > cortisol levels, my body's natural Testosterone

> and T4/T3

> > > would be sufficient?

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Yes you told us this did you ask him to try Thyroid again first.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> > Subject: Re: Testosterone / Cortisol

> link

> >

> > Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 10:13 PM

> > Thanks Phil!

> > I am happy to be doing better.  I do have a

> tendency

> > to jump the gun, so I'll take it one day at a time for

> now.

> >

> >

> > But I'm sure the question will still nag at me: 

> Was

> > it some kind of multiple glandular problem - maybe

> pituitary

> > in nature, or was it just adrenal insufficiency

> causing low

> > levels across the board.

> > Probably best if I revisit the question in 6 mos or

> so

> > with, as you put it, " a damn good doctor " (If I can

> find

> > one!)

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> > > > Subject: Testosterone /

> Cortisol

> > link

> > > >

> > > > Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 12:52 PM

> > > > Can someone comment on the link

> > > > between testosterone and cortisol?

> > > >

> > > > My T level was hovering around 425 on gels

> until

> > I addded

> > > > Isocort. Then it zoomed up to 847 (not

> > complaining).

> > > >

> > > > Same with my thyroid treatment:  Felt

> crappy on

> > 75mcg

> > > > of Levo. until I added Isocort, now I feel

> great

> > on ~62mcg

> > > > (splitting pills).

> > > >

> > > > I remember reading somewhere that cortisol

> acts

> > as a

> > > > facilitator for many of these other

> hormones.

> > If

> > > > someone can post a link to this 

> information,

> > I'd

> > > > appreciate it. 

> > > >

> > > > BTW, If that's the case, could it be

> possible

> > that adrenal

> > > > insufficiency is my *only* problem, and

> with

> > sufficient

> > > > cortisol levels, my body's natural

> Testosterone

> > and T4/T3

> > > > would be sufficient?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

No.

Hertoghe believes in a multi-hormone treatment for ALL - Even healthy people!

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Den 25. okt. 2010 kl. 19.13 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>:

Yes you told us this did you ask him to try Thyroid again first.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> > Subject: Re: Testosterone / Cortisol

> link

> >

> > Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 10:13 PM

> > Thanks Phil!

> > I am happy to be doing better. I do have a

> tendency

> > to jump the gun, so I'll take it one day at a time for

> now.

> >

> >

> > But I'm sure the question will still nag at me:

> Was

> > it some kind of multiple glandular problem - maybe

> pituitary

> > in nature, or was it just adrenal insufficiency

> causing low

> > levels across the board.

> > Probably best if I revisit the question in 6 mos or

> so

> > with, as you put it, " a damn good doctor " (If I can

> find

> > one!)

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> > > > Subject: Testosterone /

> Cortisol

> > link

> > > >

> > > > Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 12:52 PM

> > > > Can someone comment on the link

> > > > between testosterone and cortisol?

> > > >

> > > > My T level was hovering around 425 on gels

> until

> > I addded

> > > > Isocort. Then it zoomed up to 847 (not

> > complaining).

> > > >

> > > > Same with my thyroid treatment: Felt

> crappy on

> > 75mcg

> > > > of Levo. until I added Isocort, now I feel

> great

> > on ~62mcg

> > > > (splitting pills).

> > > >

> > > > I remember reading somewhere that cortisol

> acts

> > as a

> > > > facilitator for many of these other

> hormones.

> > If

> > > > someone can post a link to this

> information,

> > I'd

> > > > appreciate it.

> > > >

> > > > BTW, If that's the case, could it be

> possible

> > that adrenal

> > > > insufficiency is my *only* problem, and

> with

> > sufficient

> > > > cortisol levels, my body's natural

> Testosterone

> > and T4/T3

> > > > would be sufficient?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

No.

Hertoghe believes in a multi-hormone treatment for ALL - Even healthy

people!

Sendt fra min iPhone

Den 25. okt. 2010 kl. 19.13 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>:

> Yes you told us this did you ask him to try Thyroid again first.

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

>

> >

> > > From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> > > Subject: Re: Testosterone / Cortisol

> > link

> > >

> > > Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 10:13 PM

> > > Thanks Phil!

> > > I am happy to be doing better. I do have a

> > tendency

> > > to jump the gun, so I'll take it one day at a time for

> > now.

> > >

> > >

> > > But I'm sure the question will still nag at me:

> > Was

> > > it some kind of multiple glandular problem - maybe

> > pituitary

> > > in nature, or was it just adrenal insufficiency

> > causing low

> > > levels across the board.

> > > Probably best if I revisit the question in 6 mos or

> > so

> > > with, as you put it, " a damn good doctor " (If I can

> > find

> > > one!)

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> > > > > Subject: Testosterone /

> > Cortisol

> > > link

> > > > >

> > > > > Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 12:52 PM

> > > > > Can someone comment on the link

> > > > > between testosterone and cortisol?

> > > > >

> > > > > My T level was hovering around 425 on gels

> > until

> > > I addded

> > > > > Isocort. Then it zoomed up to 847 (not

> > > complaining).

> > > > >

> > > > > Same with my thyroid treatment: Felt

> > crappy on

> > > 75mcg

> > > > > of Levo. until I added Isocort, now I feel

> > great

> > > on ~62mcg

> > > > > (splitting pills).

> > > > >

> > > > > I remember reading somewhere that cortisol

> > acts

> > > as a

> > > > > facilitator for many of these other

> > hormones.

> > > If

> > > > > someone can post a link to this

> > information,

> > > I'd

> > > > > appreciate it.

> > > > >

> > > > > BTW, If that's the case, could it be

> > possible

> > > that adrenal

> > > > > insufficiency is my *only* problem, and

> > with

> > > sufficient

> > > > > cortisol levels, my body's natural

> > Testosterone

> > > and T4/T3

> > > > > would be sufficient?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

 

I am not getting sleep in the night since long time. Can you tell me what I

should do.

> >

> > > From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> > > Subject: Re: Testosterone / Cortisol

> > link

> > >

> > > Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 10:13 PM

> > > Thanks Phil!

> > > I am happy to be doing better. I do have a

> > tendency

> > > to jump the gun, so I'll take it one day at a time for

> > now.

> > >

> > >

> > > But I'm sure the question will still nag at me:

> > Was

> > > it some kind of multiple glandular problem - maybe

> > pituitary

> > > in nature, or was it just adrenal insufficiency

> > causing low

> > > levels across the board.

> > > Probably best if I revisit the question in 6 mos or

> > so

> > > with, as you put it, " a damn good doctor " (If I can

> > find

> > > one!)

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> > > > > Subject: Testosterone /

> > Cortisol

> > > link

> > > > >

> > > > > Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 12:52 PM

> > > > > Can someone comment on the link

> > > > > between testosterone and cortisol?

> > > > >

> > > > > My T level was hovering around 425 on gels

> > until

> > > I addded

> > > > > Isocort. Then it zoomed up to 847 (not

> > > complaining).

> > > > >

> > > > > Same with my thyroid treatment: Felt

> > crappy on

> > > 75mcg

> > > > > of Levo. until I added Isocort, now I feel

> > great

> > > on ~62mcg

> > > > > (splitting pills).

> > > > >

> > > > > I remember reading somewhere that cortisol

> > acts

> > > as a

> > > > > facilitator for many of these other

> > hormones.

> > > If

> > > > > someone can post a link to this

> > information,

> > > I'd

> > > > > appreciate it.

> > > > >

> > > > > BTW, If that's the case, could it be

> > possible

> > > that adrenal

> > > > > insufficiency is my *only* problem, and

> > with

> > > sufficient

> > > > > cortisol levels, my body's natural

> > Testosterone

> > > and T4/T3

> > > > > would be sufficient?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Satish and Welcome,

There are a lot of things that can cause this you need to see a good Dr. and

have your Testosterone, Estradiol, Cortisol, Thyroid, Ferritin and so on tested.

Here is a link to labs I tell men they need.

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=5 & t=7059

In this link near the bottom is info how low or high Cortisol levels can keep

you from sleeping.

http://livingnetwork.co.za/hormones/adrenal-fatigue/

Co-Moderator

Phil

> > >

> > > > From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> > > > Subject: Re: Testosterone /

> Cortisol

> > > link

> > > >

> > > > Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 10:13 PM

> > > > Thanks Phil!

> > > > I am happy to be doing better. I do have a

> > > tendency

> > > > to jump the gun, so I'll take it one day at

> a time for

> > > now.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > But I'm sure the question will still nag at

> me:

> > > Was

> > > > it some kind of multiple glandular problem -

> maybe

> > > pituitary

> > > > in nature, or was it just adrenal

> insufficiency

> > > causing low

> > > > levels across the board.

> > > > Probably best if I revisit the question in 6

> mos or

> > > so

> > > > with, as you put it, " a damn good doctor "

> (If I can

> > > find

> > > > one!)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> > > > > > Subject:

> Testosterone /

> > > Cortisol

> > > > link

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010,

> 12:52 PM

> > > > > > Can someone comment on the link

> > > > > > between testosterone and

> cortisol?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My T level was hovering around 425

> on gels

> > > until

> > > > I addded

> > > > > > Isocort. Then it zoomed up to 847

> (not

> > > > complaining).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Same with my thyroid treatment:

> Felt

> > > crappy on

> > > > 75mcg

> > > > > > of Levo. until I added Isocort,

> now I feel

> > > great

> > > > on ~62mcg

> > > > > > (splitting pills).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I remember reading somewhere that

> cortisol

> > > acts

> > > > as a

> > > > > > facilitator for many of these

> other

> > > hormones.

> > > > If

> > > > > > someone can post a link to this

> > > information,

> > > > I'd

> > > > > > appreciate it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > BTW, If that's the case, could it

> be

> > > possible

> > > > that adrenal

> > > > > > insufficiency is my *only*

> problem, and

> > > with

> > > > sufficient

> > > > > > cortisol levels, my body's

> natural

> > > Testosterone

> > > > and T4/T3

> > > > > > would be sufficient?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > >

> > > > > >