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Subjective:

Libido is up from almost non-existent

Erections - Weak morning ones from none at all

Sensations - Penile sensations a lot better.

Focus and concentration - improved

General energy Slightly improved.

Depression Gone

Cholesterol is down from 6.5

Testosterone is a lot higher than I expected to be

I suspect estradiol is too high because erections are still poor, Taking steps

to get E2 tested, my doc wont do it.

I get terrible headaches from just one half a DIM tablet even with tmg.

Testosterone 28.4 10.0-30.0 nmol/L

Free Testosterone calculated A 819 200-800 pmol/L

Bioavailable Testosterone 19.2 5-20 nmol/L

Sex Hormone Binding Globulin 28 10-70 nmol/L

Cholesterol A 5.50 2.00-5.19 mmol/L

LDL Cholesterol A 3.69 1.50-3.39 mmol/L

HDL Cholesterol 1.46 >0.90 mmol/L

Chol/HDL (Risk Ratio) 3.77 <4.9

Triglycerides 0.78 0.45-2.29 mmol/L

Hematology

WBC 6.4 4.0-10.0 giga/L

RBC 4.87 4.20-5.40 tera/L

Hemoglobin 158 133-165 g/L

Hematocrit 0.46 0.38-0.50

MCV 94 82-98 fl

MCH 32.4 27.5-33.5 pg

MCHC 345 305-365 g/L

RDW 12.7 11.5-14.5 %

Platelet Count 245 150-400 giga/L

Neutrophils 3.1 2.0-7.5 giga/L

Lymphocytes 2.7 1.0-4.0 giga/L

Monocytes 0.5 0.1-0.8 giga/L

Eosinophils 0.1 0.0-0.7 giga/L

Basophils 0.0 0.0-0.2 giga/L

Albumin 43 35-50 g/L

Alkaline Phosphatase 63 48-138 U/L

Gamma GT 20 10-58 U/L

ALT 25 <60 U/L AST 22 <35 U/L

PSA 0.72 <4.5 ug/L

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Dale some men can't take DIM try Arimidex there is a generic out now the cost is

very low now. Try 1/4 of a pill every 3 days thats .25 mgs. But first test

your Estradiol some men have this problem because they are to low.

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> From: Dale <etherial@...>

> Subject: Labs after being on 5g packets of androgel for 3

months. Posted for general info

>

> Date: Friday, September 3, 2010, 8:55 PM

> Subjective:

> Libido is up from almost non-existent

> Erections - Weak morning ones from none at all

> Sensations - Penile sensations a lot better. 

> Focus and concentration - improved

> General energy   Slightly improved.

> Depression       Gone

>

> Cholesterol is down from 6.5

> Testosterone is a lot higher than I expected to be

> I suspect estradiol is too high because erections are still

> poor, Taking steps to get E2 tested, my doc wont do it.

> I get terrible headaches from just one half a DIM tablet

> even with tmg.

>

>

> Testosterone           

>        28.4  10.0-30.0 nmol/L

>

> Free Testosterone calculated A 819   

> 200-800  pmol/L

> Bioavailable Testosterone      19.2 

>    5-20   nmol/L

> Sex Hormone Binding Globulin   28 

>     10-70   nmol/L

>

> Cholesterol             

>   A  5.50  2.00-5.19  mmol/L 

> LDL Cholesterol           

> A  3.69  1.50-3.39  mmol/L

> HDL Cholesterol           

>          1.46 >0.90 mmol/L

>

> Chol/HDL (Risk Ratio)     

>    3.77  <4.9

> Triglycerides           

>      0.78  0.45-2.29  mmol/L

>

> Hematology

> WBC            6.4 

>    4.0-10.0 giga/L

> RBC           

> 4.87   4.20-5.40 tera/L

> Hemoglobin     158 

>    133-165  g/L

> Hematocrit     0.46 

>    0.38-0.50

> MCV 94 82-98 fl

> MCH 32.4 27.5-33.5 pg

> MCHC 345 305-365 g/L

> RDW 12.7 11.5-14.5 %

> Platelet Count 245 150-400 giga/L

> Neutrophils 3.1 2.0-7.5 giga/L

>

> Lymphocytes 2.7 1.0-4.0 giga/L

>

> Monocytes 0.5 0.1-0.8 giga/L

>

> Eosinophils 0.1 0.0-0.7 giga/L

>

> Basophils 0.0 0.0-0.2 giga/L

>

> Albumin 43 35-50 g/L

> Alkaline Phosphatase 63 48-138 U/L

> Gamma GT 20 10-58 U/L

> ALT 25 <60 U/L AST 22 <35 U/L

> PSA     0.72 <4.5 ug/L

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What is the deal with side effects from DIM.

Isn't it simply concentrated from 'cruciferous' vegetables that a lot of folks

eat daily?

Not saying it doesn't happen, but I am curious why a person would have a

reaction to something like that,.....unless it is allergic or something.

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I don't know some men break out in a rash I did after a time using it.

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> From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

> Subject: Re: Labs after being on 5g packets of androgel for 3

months. Posted for general info

>

> Date: Saturday, September 4, 2010, 3:37 PM

> What is the deal with side effects

> from DIM.

> Isn't it simply concentrated from 'cruciferous' vegetables

> that a lot of folks eat daily?

>

> Not saying it doesn't happen, but I am curious why a person

> would have a reaction to something like that,.....unless it

> is allergic or something.

>

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