question about retaining water weight

May 28, 2010

In a message dated 5/28/2010 10:52:55 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,

michael.hugh.rouse@... writes:

Hey Group,

I've been on test E for about 2 months now. My face and body look like I've

retained about 10-15 pounds of water weight. What can I do to elminate all

of this water I'm holding on to?

Thanks for any info,

--

Mike

Use Arimidex (anastrozole) to reduce conversion of testosterone into

estrogen. Aim for estrogen reading on lab test of about 20. Typical anastrozole

dosage is .25mg 2-3 times per week. _www.alldaychemist.com_

(http://www.alldaychemist.com) is a good source.

May 28, 2010

Hey Group,

I've been on test E for about 2 months now. My face and body look like I've

retained about 10-15 pounds of water weight. What can I do to elminate all

of this water I'm holding on to?

Thanks for any info,

--

Mike

May 29, 2010

First check your Estradiol levels if high you will hold a lot of water some men

are to high on Estradiol before starting on TRT and adding it makes it worse.

Test this first if to high get it down with arimidex then if you still hold to

much water you might need water pills. I have needed them from Day one going on

TRT. For yrs. I took a water pill every 3 days to keep this down.

â€¢Triamterene/HCTZ 37.5/25 mgs.

Here is a copy of a file I made about taking Arimidex.

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How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low.

What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your

to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to

make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on

your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I

went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or

how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low

until my next labs.

The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your

night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you

get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you

can hang a coat on it.

Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to

cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge

razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your

levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day

after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said

>90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time

and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs.

I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the

day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could

not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the

Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex

my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we

went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was

on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low

you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels

back up.

I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after

playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3

days.

So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down

so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with

lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your

lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days.

I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down

from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need

..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days.

So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this

to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading

back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets

me dose my arimidex by how I feel.

Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Rouse <michael.hugh.rouse@...>

> Subject: question about retaining water weight

>

> Date: Saturday, May 29, 2010, 1:52 AM

> Hey Group,

>

> I've been on test E for about 2 months now.Â My face

> and body look like I've

> retained about 10-15 pounds of water weight. What can I do

> to elminate all

> of this water I'm holding on to?

>

> Thanks for any info,

>

> --

> Mike

>

May 29, 2010

Phil and " With Bacon, "

I'm currently on DIM but I'm thinking that my latest lab values may warrant

me getting on Arimidex. Could you please take a look and let me know what

you think? Thanks.

Estrone: 280.5 (25 - 150)

Estradiol: 64.6 (7.6 - 42.6)

DHT: 170.8 (25 - 99)

Thanks again,

Mike

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 8:32 AM, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>wrote:

>

> First check your Estradiol levels if high you will hold a lot of water some

> men are to high on Estradiol before starting on TRT and adding it makes it

> worse. Test this first if to high get it down with arimidex then if you

> still hold to much water you might need water pills. I have needed them from

> Day one going on TRT. For yrs. I took a water pill every 3 days to keep this

> down.

> •Triamterene/HCTZ 37.5/25 mgs.

> Here is a copy of a file I made about taking Arimidex.

> ===================================================

> How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low.

>

> What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time

> your to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer

> time to make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low.

> Keep a log on your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up

> taking Viagra. I went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know

> about going to low or how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I

> did not know I was low until my next labs.

>

> The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your

> night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot

> you get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up

> and you can hang a coat on it.

>

> Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter

> to cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a

> single edge razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how

> high your levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every

> other day after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90,

> test said >90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some

> strong night time and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs.

>

> I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in

> the day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today

> they could not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop

> taking the Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and

> stopping the Arimidex my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8

> weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to

> take .5 mgs every 3 days I was on this dose not a week and lost wood. This

> is when I figured out going to low you lose wood. And the longer your too

> low the longer it takes to get levels back up.

>

> I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then

> after playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2

> to 3 days.

>

> So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go

> down so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's

> best with lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days

> if later your lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days.

>

> I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or

> down from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I

> need .25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days.

>

> So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told

> this to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and

> reading back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low

> my Dr. lets me dose my arimidex by how I feel.

>

> Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face.

>

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

> > From: Rouse

<michael.hugh.rouse@...<michael.hugh.rouse%40gmail.com>

> >

> > Subject: question about retaining water weight

> > < %40>

> > Date: Saturday, May 29, 2010, 1:52 AM

>

> > Hey Group,

> >

> > I've been on test E for about 2 months now. My face

> > and body look like I've

> > retained about 10-15 pounds of water weight. What can I do

> > to elminate all

> > of this water I'm holding on to?

> >

> > Thanks for any info,

> >

> > --

> > Mike

> >

May 29, 2010

Mike what lab did you use for this test still it's very high and yes you need to

try Arimidex do .5 mgs every other day follow this cut and paste so you don't go

to low. It is very hard to bring down high levels like this using DIM after you

get it down you can try going back on DIM.

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