Re: Incredibly good news - how can this be?

[Guest guest]

hey guys, I get a testosterone injection every other week of 400MG. Would

I do better to get 200MG every week instead of the full dosage every other

week??

Bob

In a message dated 10/15/2010 12:08:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

dcbaden@... writes:

For quite a while I've complained that 2 tubes of Testim had been doing

nothing. My labs hovered around 415. Up from 275.

Had also been a bit frustrated with my thyroid treatment. Was feeling

lousy with high RT3 on a T4 only medication.

I started Isocort as per Phil's instructions

Now?

Feeling great.

RT3 normal.

Free testosterone? Drum roll.....

847!!!!

Could this be Isocort alone?

I did add a lot of Vitamin D

Oddly, my TSH is still high.

Addendum:

Showed all of the above to my endo and he urged me to get off of the

Isocort. He's against any type of cortisol treatment. I asked him for T3

instead

and he agreed. So, in a way, that's good news. I at least have T3 to add

to my crappy T4 only treatment. I'll play it by ear as far as dropping

Isocort.

He also agreed to put me on shots. Hated to ruin a good thing, but in the

next month or so, I will lose insurance and Testim is $600 / month!!!

MANY THANKS TO THE MEN ON THIS BOARD. No way I'd have the above progress

without your support.

[Guest guest]

this is great NEWS I never did good on gels and the cost even covered by

my BCBS is off the charts. Your feeling better on Isocort because now your

Thyroid T4 only med is converting into T3 and getting carried out of your blood

into your cells.

I was on Armour for yrs. and taking a lot of it 4 grains a day. My labs today

on Synthroid 150 mcs and 5 mcgs of T3 only 2x's/day are just as good as my labs

on Armour.

The new Armour that is out there I don't want to try I feel I am doing good on

what I am on so why change it. My RT3 is high above the top of the range but

it's because I am in a lot of pain in my lower back, hips and upper legs. Due

to taking Statin Drug. So once I build my CoQ10 levels back up and the pain

stops my RT3 levels will come back down.

I feel people are over reacting about high levels of RT3 you don't need to treat

this if you have good levels for your Cortisol and Free T3.

You can't go on T3 only meds and drive down your T4 to bring down RT3 if you

don't fix the problem making your RT3 go so high. And you can't stay on T3 only

meds for life.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> Subject: Incredibly good news - how can this be?

>

> Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 12:08 PM

> For quite a while I've complained

> that 2 tubes of Testim had been doing nothing.  My labs

> hovered around 415.  Up from 275.

>

> Had also been a bit frustrated with my thyroid

> treatment.  Was feeling lousy with high RT3 on a T4

> only medication.

>

> I started Isocort as per Phil's instructions

>

> Now?

>

> Feeling great.

> RT3 normal.

> Free testosterone?   Drum roll.....

> 847!!!!

>

> Could this be Isocort alone?

> I did add a lot of Vitamin D

> Oddly, my TSH is still high.

>

>

> Addendum:

> Showed all of the above to my endo and he urged me to get

> off of the Isocort.  He's against any type of cortisol

> treatment.  I asked him for T3 instead and he

> agreed.  So, in a way, that's good news.  I at

> least have T3 to add to my crappy T4 only treatment. 

> I'll play it by ear as far as dropping Isocort.

> He also agreed to put me on shots.  Hated to ruin a

> good thing, but in the next month or so, I will lose

> insurance and Testim is $600 / month!!!

>

> MANY THANKS TO THE MEN ON THIS BOARD. No way I'd have the

> above progress without your support.

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Don't know post your labs how thick is you blood and how high are your Estradiol

levels. Did your Dr. start you at this dose or did you find you need to work

your way up this high due to low levels.

Most men start at about 100 mgs / wk. Do labs and if there not up into the

upper 1/3 of there labs range and feeling good. They go up say to 125 mgs / wks

hold this for 6 to 8 weeks do labs see how they are doing and so on.

I eat up my T meds as fast as I take them so I do my shots every 3 days right

now because of all the pain I am in I need to shot 100 mgs every 3 days to keep

my levels up.

Men that start at to high a level have a hard time going lower you need to cut

the dose over a long time so you don't feel like crap coming down on your dose.

Men doing to much Testosterone can get thicker blood need to give blood to keep

it thin. Have higher levels of Estradiol that needs a lot of Arimidex to keep

it down. And them higher levels will stress out your Adrenals make them work to

hard so they get tired and can't make enough Cortisol so the feel like crap for

having lower Cortisol levels this makes the Thyroid even act up.

So if your labs are over the top of the range you need to think about this long

and hard.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: bwilli45409@... <bwilli45409@...>

> Subject: Re: Incredibly good news - how can this be?

>

> Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 12:12 PM

>

> hey guys, I get a testosterone injection every other week

> of 400MG.   Would

> I do better to get 200MG every week instead of the full

> dosage every other 

> week??

>

> Bob

>

>

> In a message dated 10/15/2010 12:08:23 P.M. Eastern

> Daylight Time, 

> dcbaden@...

> writes:

>

>

>

>

> For quite a while I've complained that 2 tubes of Testim

> had been doing 

> nothing. My labs hovered around 415. Up from 275.

>

> Had also been a bit  frustrated with my thyroid

> treatment. Was feeling

> lousy with high RT3 on a T4  only medication.

>

> I started Isocort as per Phil's  instructions

>

> Now?

>

> Feeling great.

> RT3 normal.

> Free  testosterone? Drum roll.....

> 847!!!!

>

> Could this be Isocort alone? 

> I did add a lot of Vitamin D

> Oddly, my TSH is still  high.

>

> Addendum:

> Showed all of the above to my endo and he urged me  to

> get off of the

> Isocort. He's against any type of cortisol treatment.

> I  asked him for T3 instead

> and he agreed. So, in a way, that's good news. I at 

> least have T3 to add

> to my crappy T4 only treatment. I'll play it by ear

> as  far as dropping

> Isocort.

> He also agreed to put me on shots. Hated to ruin a 

> good thing, but in the

> next month or so, I will lose insurance and Testim is 

> $600 / month!!!

>

> MANY THANKS TO THE MEN ON THIS BOARD. No way I'd have 

> the above progress

> without your support.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>