Re: Arimedex/liquidex and timeline of effects?

[Guest guest]

Best to stop now until wood comes back the longer your low the loner it takes to

come back up. I don't know how much you were doing but some men don't have the

best effect with DIM. If you were not using Indolplex/DIM it's hard to say how

it would work most of plain DIM gets killed in the stomach. Going from DIM to

Arimidex your all ready lower and just a little can push you down low.

So stop it when your wood comes back go back on it try .25 mgs every 3 days use

a needle to dose this so your not guessing with an eye dropper. If you lose

wood again then you will need to go to .125 mgs every 2 days and so on.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Billjustin <billjustin@...>

> Subject: Arimedex/liquidex and timeline of effects?

>

> Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 10:23 AM

> a few days ago I got the liquidex in

> yummy cherry flavor.  I was taking DIM before, and dim

> seems to take a while to lower E, and is harder to figure

> out dosing because of that.  Its also more expensive

> than liquidex. 

>

> I am trying to figure out what kind of effects occur and

> how fast, and how long liquidex works.  I think I may

> have already responded and lowered my E too low, because now

> I don't have morning wood since starting liquidex.  The

> good news is I was able to have complete and full

> penetrative sex with my wife without levitra for the first

> time in a long time.  this probably means I have my E

> close to the correct level, but a little on the low

> side.  I am also sleeping better since starting

> liquidex. 

>

> On another note, my blood pressure untreated before

> testosterone was 165/105.  The day before starting

> liquidex and only a week on testosterone was 148/100. 

> The day after I took my first dose of liquidex my BP was

> 137/95!!

>

> I can't tell you how nice it is to have decent BP readings

> and not be on at least 2 medications treating it.

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

I have been on DIM for 15 months 200 mg daily, I have night sweats. I

also take ANDROGEL 5 pumps daily (6.25grams),

I have night sweats, Could my E2 be too low and if so should I stop the

DIM??

If E2 is too low can that cause night sweats???

My forearm muscles tendons also feel sore and weak even though I am weight

training several days per week.

In a message dated 1/22/2010 10:26:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

billjustin@... writes:

a few days ago I got the liquidex in yummy cherry flavor. I was taking DIM

before, and dim seems to take a while to lower E, and is harder to figure

out dosing because of that. Its also more expensive than liquidex.

I am trying to figure out what kind of effects occur and how fast, and how

long liquidex works. I think I may have already responded and lowered my E

too low, because now I don't have morning wood since starting liquidex.

The good news is I was able to have complete and full penetrative sex with my

wife without levitra for the first time in a long time. this probably

means I have my E close to the correct level, but a little on the low side. I

am also sleeping better since starting liquidex.

On another note, my blood pressure untreated before testosterone was

165/105. The day before starting liquidex and only a week on testosterone was

148/100. The day after I took my first dose of liquidex my BP was 137/95!!

I can't tell you how nice it is to have decent BP readings and not be on

at least 2 medications treating it.

[Guest guest]

Yes it can be the E2 is to low but it also can mean your T levels are to low. I

feel men on TRT need to have there Adrenals checked for low Cortisol and there

Thyroid this can make you sweat. Your sugar levels fall at night.

http://livingnetwork.co.za/hormones/adrenal-fatigue/

=========================================================================

Adrenal insufficiency is linked to insomnia in two ways.

1.If your cortisol drops too low during the night your blood sugar drops too.

Your body compensate by releasing adrenaline as an emergency measure to mobilize

more sugar. This has the effect of waking you in an instant. This can be reduced

by eating high protein snack before retiring e.g. sardines, nuts of high quality

protein shake.

2.In early stages of adrenal fatigue cortisol levels tend to rise and if they

are high at midnight they can energise you and keep you awake. Phosphorylated

serine can be used to lower cortisol at these times due to its ACTH dampening

effect.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: gviceman77@... <gviceman77@...>

> Subject: Re: Arimedex/liquidex and timeline of effects?

>

> Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 11:45 AM

> I have been on DIM for 15 months 200

> mg daily, I have night sweats.  I 

> also take ANDROGEL 5 pumps daily (6.25grams),

>

> I have night sweats,  Could my E2 be too low and if so

> should I stop  the

> DIM??

>

> If E2 is too low can that cause night sweats???

>

> My forearm muscles tendons also feel sore and weak even

> though I am weight 

> training several days per week.

>

>

>

> In a message dated 1/22/2010 10:26:13 A.M. Eastern Standard

> Time, 

> billjustin@...

> writes:

>

>

>

>

> a few days ago I got the liquidex in yummy cherry flavor. I

> was taking DIM 

> before, and dim seems to take a while to lower E, and is

> harder to figure

> out  dosing because of that. Its also more expensive

> than liquidex.

>

> I am  trying to figure out what kind of effects occur

> and how fast, and how

> long  liquidex works. I think I may have already

> responded and lowered my E

> too low,  because now I don't have morning wood since

> starting liquidex.

> The good news  is I was able to have complete and full

> penetrative sex with my

> wife without  levitra for the first time in a long

> time. this probably

> means I have my E  close to the correct level, but a

> little on the low side. I

> am also sleeping  better since starting liquidex.

>

> On another note, my blood pressure  untreated before

> testosterone was

> 165/105. The day before starting liquidex  and only a

> week on testosterone was

> 148/100. The day after I took my first  dose of

> liquidex my BP was 137/95!!

>

> I can't tell you how nice it is to  have decent BP

> readings and not be on

> at least 2 medications treating  it.

>

>

>

>

>

>