Re: Nebido - is anyone on this?

[Guest guest]

When Nebido first came out in the UK it's now here is the USA. Men did not go

well on it because Dr.'s were told it's good for 3 months. Men were going low

in 3 to 4 weeks.

Now Dr.'s that have used this and know how to get men leveled off on it men are

happy with it. But they needed to get shots more offten until it built up in

there body.

Try going to this forum and posting about it.

http://www.andropause.org.uk/newforum/forum_frameset.htm

Some men say it lasted them only 7 weeks others 11.

Also to here do a search and you will find a few posts about it.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/

Same here you will find a ton of posts on it.

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum/

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: <chrisjtaylor46@...>

> Subject: Nebido - is anyone on this?

>

> Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 10:39 AM

> Hi all

>

> Just to recap I have been trying sustanon 250 under the

> 'care' (i use the word loosely) of my GP.  i had one

> injection in december and it was a bit of a roller coaster,

> and had another last week.  i do feel a lot better on

> the whole but it is still a bit of a roller coaster.

>

> I saw an endo on the nhs who recommended a urologist if i

> wanted to try Testosterone replacement.  I mailed him

> but he didn't get back to me.  I then ended up seeing

> an unpleasant endo. he reluctantly agreed to let me try the

> sustanon for a few months 'as a boost'. also said i had

> metabolic syndrome.

>

>

> The urologist has finally got back to me, said he'd see me

> if i was referred, and said i should almost certainly be on

> T, and asked what did the endo say to me?  i said lose

> substantial amount of weight and very reluctantly offered me

> a 3-5 month dose of sustanon.

>

> well the urologist wrote back and said he never uses

> sustanon, it wears off too quick and the levels of it vary

> widely in the body.  he also said that the concept of

> using T 'as a boost' doesn't work like that, said it needs

> 6-12 months to have metabolic effect . He said he favoured

> Nebido or the gels.

>

> Has anyone tried nebido?  how did you get on with it?

> on the whole i'm ok with sustanon so i think i'd be ok with

> nebido.

>

>

> I asked my gp to refer me to this urologist but he didn't

> like that at all, said there's nothing wrong with sustanon

> and there's no point seeing a 5th consultant! (he would

> actually be the 4th, he can't count). it comes down to cost

> i think, equiva of about 5 dollars a go for sust, vs about

> 120 for nebido, and i'd need 3 jabs in 3 months of nebido.

>

> bottom line is, i could complain and force the issue and

> maybe get a referral but this would strain the already

> strained dr -patient relationship (it would also show the dr

> i won't be BSed). i think i'm going to have to change

> practices soon anyway, they're useless.

>

> Would people on here try to get a referral to the Nebido dr

> and be under specialist care?   Or try and

> see another endo? ik'm just wary that if i'm on T and then a

> thyroid condition is revealed or I needed HCG then the uro

> wouldn't do that.  Does HCG just increase testicle size

> ? i'm not bothered about fertility.  after a month of

> being on sust i tthink my testicles have hardly shrunk at

> all, i think they were hardly being stimulated at all by my

> body before anyway.

>

> way i see it i can either try and force this dr to refer me

> (he is not providing adqueate care) or wait for the 3-5

> months of T therapy and then ask for a referal?  but

> i'm concenred this gp does not know what he's doing and if i

> came off T after 3-5 months (potentially next month) my own

> T will be suppresed and i'll be in a mess, worse than

> ever. 

>

> Chris

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Phil i'll take a look at those sites

I think now they give a shot at 0 weeks, 6 weeks, then 12 weeks then every 12

weeks

chris

>

> > From: <chrisjtaylor46@...>

> > Subject: Nebido - is anyone on this?

> >

> > Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 10:39 AM

> > Hi all

> >

> > Just to recap I have been trying sustanon 250 under the

> > 'care' (i use the word loosely) of my GP.  i had one

> > injection in december and it was a bit of a roller coaster,

> > and had another last week.  i do feel a lot better on

> > the whole but it is still a bit of a roller coaster.

> >

> > I saw an endo on the nhs who recommended a urologist if i

> > wanted to try Testosterone replacement.  I mailed him

> > but he didn't get back to me.  I then ended up seeing

> > an unpleasant endo. he reluctantly agreed to let me try the

> > sustanon for a few months 'as a boost'. also said i had

> > metabolic syndrome.

> >

> >

> > The urologist has finally got back to me, said he'd see me

> > if i was referred, and said i should almost certainly be on

> > T, and asked what did the endo say to me?  i said lose

> > substantial amount of weight and very reluctantly offered me

> > a 3-5 month dose of sustanon.

> >

> > well the urologist wrote back and said he never uses

> > sustanon, it wears off too quick and the levels of it vary

> > widely in the body.  he also said that the concept of

> > using T 'as a boost' doesn't work like that, said it needs

> > 6-12 months to have metabolic effect . He said he favoured

> > Nebido or the gels.

> >

> > Has anyone tried nebido?  how did you get on with it?

> > on the whole i'm ok with sustanon so i think i'd be ok with

> > nebido.

> >

> >

> > I asked my gp to refer me to this urologist but he didn't

> > like that at all, said there's nothing wrong with sustanon

> > and there's no point seeing a 5th consultant! (he would

> > actually be the 4th, he can't count). it comes down to cost

> > i think, equiva of about 5 dollars a go for sust, vs about

> > 120 for nebido, and i'd need 3 jabs in 3 months of nebido.

> >

> > bottom line is, i could complain and force the issue and

> > maybe get a referral but this would strain the already

> > strained dr -patient relationship (it would also show the dr

> > i won't be BSed). i think i'm going to have to change

> > practices soon anyway, they're useless.

> >

> > Would people on here try to get a referral to the Nebido dr

> > and be under specialist care?   Or try and

> > see another endo? ik'm just wary that if i'm on T and then a

> > thyroid condition is revealed or I needed HCG then the uro

> > wouldn't do that.  Does HCG just increase testicle size

> > ? i'm not bothered about fertility.  after a month of

> > being on sust i tthink my testicles have hardly shrunk at

> > all, i think they were hardly being stimulated at all by my

> > body before anyway.

> >

> > way i see it i can either try and force this dr to refer me

> > (he is not providing adqueate care) or wait for the 3-5

> > months of T therapy and then ask for a referal?  but

> > i'm concenred this gp does not know what he's doing and if i

> > came off T after 3-5 months (potentially next month) my own

> > T will be suppresed and i'll be in a mess, worse than

> > ever. 

> >

> > Chris

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I was under the impression that Nebido is NOT available by prescription in the

USA - am I wrong?

>

> > From: <chrisjtaylor46@...>

> > Subject: Nebido - is anyone on this?

> >

> > Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 10:39 AM

> > Hi all

> >

> > Just to recap I have been trying sustanon 250 under the

> > 'care' (i use the word loosely) of my GP.  i had one

> > injection in december and it was a bit of a roller coaster,

> > and had another last week.  i do feel a lot better on

> > the whole but it is still a bit of a roller coaster.

> >

> > I saw an endo on the nhs who recommended a urologist if i

> > wanted to try Testosterone replacement.  I mailed him

> > but he didn't get back to me.  I then ended up seeing

> > an unpleasant endo. he reluctantly agreed to let me try the

> > sustanon for a few months 'as a boost'. also said i had

> > metabolic syndrome.

> >

> >

> > The urologist has finally got back to me, said he'd see me

> > if i was referred, and said i should almost certainly be on

> > T, and asked what did the endo say to me?  i said lose

> > substantial amount of weight and very reluctantly offered me

> > a 3-5 month dose of sustanon.

> >

> > well the urologist wrote back and said he never uses

> > sustanon, it wears off too quick and the levels of it vary

> > widely in the body.  he also said that the concept of

> > using T 'as a boost' doesn't work like that, said it needs

> > 6-12 months to have metabolic effect . He said he favoured

> > Nebido or the gels.

> >

> > Has anyone tried nebido?  how did you get on with it?

> > on the whole i'm ok with sustanon so i think i'd be ok with

> > nebido.

> >

> >

> > I asked my gp to refer me to this urologist but he didn't

> > like that at all, said there's nothing wrong with sustanon

> > and there's no point seeing a 5th consultant! (he would

> > actually be the 4th, he can't count). it comes down to cost

> > i think, equiva of about 5 dollars a go for sust, vs about

> > 120 for nebido, and i'd need 3 jabs in 3 months of nebido.

> >

> > bottom line is, i could complain and force the issue and

> > maybe get a referral but this would strain the already

> > strained dr -patient relationship (it would also show the dr

> > i won't be BSed). i think i'm going to have to change

> > practices soon anyway, they're useless.

> >

> > Would people on here try to get a referral to the Nebido dr

> > and be under specialist care?   Or try and

> > see another endo? ik'm just wary that if i'm on T and then a

> > thyroid condition is revealed or I needed HCG then the uro

> > wouldn't do that.  Does HCG just increase testicle size

> > ? i'm not bothered about fertility.  after a month of

> > being on sust i tthink my testicles have hardly shrunk at

> > all, i think they were hardly being stimulated at all by my

> > body before anyway.

> >

> > way i see it i can either try and force this dr to refer me

> > (he is not providing adqueate care) or wait for the 3-5

> > months of T therapy and then ask for a referal?  but

> > i'm concenred this gp does not know what he's doing and if i

> > came off T after 3-5 months (potentially next month) my own

> > T will be suppresed and i'll be in a mess, worse than

> > ever. 

> >

> > Chris

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

That might be how they found it to work better.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: <chrisjtaylor46@...>

> Subject: Re: Nebido - is anyone on this?

>

> Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 11:28 AM

> Thanks Phil i'll take a look at those

> sites

>

> I think now they give a shot at 0 weeks, 6 weeks, then 12

> weeks then every 12 weeks

>

> chris

>

>

> >

> > > From: <chrisjtaylor46@...>

> > > Subject: Nebido - is anyone on

> this?

> > >

> > > Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 10:39 AM

> > > Hi all

> > >

> > > Just to recap I have been trying sustanon 250

> under the

> > > 'care' (i use the word loosely) of my GP.  i had

> one

> > > injection in december and it was a bit of a

> roller coaster,

> > > and had another last week.  i do feel a lot

> better on

> > > the whole but it is still a bit of a roller

> coaster.

> > >

> > > I saw an endo on the nhs who recommended a

> urologist if i

> > > wanted to try Testosterone replacement.  I

> mailed him

> > > but he didn't get back to me.  I then ended up

> seeing

> > > an unpleasant endo. he reluctantly agreed to let

> me try the

> > > sustanon for a few months 'as a boost'. also said

> i had

> > > metabolic syndrome.

> > >

> > >

> > > The urologist has finally got back to me, said

> he'd see me

> > > if i was referred, and said i should almost

> certainly be on

> > > T, and asked what did the endo say to me?  i

> said lose

> > > substantial amount of weight and very reluctantly

> offered me

> > > a 3-5 month dose of sustanon.

> > >

> > > well the urologist wrote back and said he never

> uses

> > > sustanon, it wears off too quick and the levels

> of it vary

> > > widely in the body.  he also said that the

> concept of

> > > using T 'as a boost' doesn't work like that, said

> it needs

> > > 6-12 months to have metabolic effect . He said he

> favoured

> > > Nebido or the gels.

> > >

> > > Has anyone tried nebido?  how did you get on

> with it?

> > > on the whole i'm ok with sustanon so i think i'd

> be ok with

> > > nebido.

> > >

> > >

> > > I asked my gp to refer me to this urologist but

> he didn't

> > > like that at all, said there's nothing wrong with

> sustanon

> > > and there's no point seeing a 5th consultant! (he

> would

> > > actually be the 4th, he can't count). it comes

> down to cost

> > > i think, equiva of about 5 dollars a go for sust,

> vs about

> > > 120 for nebido, and i'd need 3 jabs in 3 months

> of nebido.

> > >

> > > bottom line is, i could complain and force the

> issue and

> > > maybe get a referral but this would strain the

> already

> > > strained dr -patient relationship (it would also

> show the dr

> > > i won't be BSed). i think i'm going to have to

> change

> > > practices soon anyway, they're useless.

> > >

> > > Would people on here try to get a referral to the

> Nebido dr

> > > and be under specialist care?   Or try and

> > > see another endo? ik'm just wary that if i'm on T

> and then a

> > > thyroid condition is revealed or I needed HCG

> then the uro

> > > wouldn't do that.  Does HCG just increase

> testicle size

> > > ? i'm not bothered about fertility.  after a

> month of

> > > being on sust i tthink my testicles have hardly

> shrunk at

> > > all, i think they were hardly being stimulated at

> all by my

> > > body before anyway.

> > >

> > > way i see it i can either try and force this dr

> to refer me

> > > (he is not providing adqueate care) or wait for

> the 3-5

> > > months of T therapy and then ask for a referal? 

> but

> > > i'm concenred this gp does not know what he's

> doing and if i

> > > came off T after 3-5 months (potentially next

> month) my own

> > > T will be suppresed and i'll be in a mess, worse

> than

> > > ever. 

> > >

> > > Chris

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Sorry that was a typo on my part I ment to say not.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: cvictorg <cvgrashow@...>

> Subject: Re: Nebido - is anyone on this?

>

> Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 12:52 PM

> I was under the impression that

> Nebido is NOT available by prescription in the USA - am I

> wrong?

>

>

>

> >

> > > From: <chrisjtaylor46@...>

> > > Subject: Nebido - is anyone on

> this?

> > >

> > > Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 10:39 AM

> > > Hi all

> > >

> > > Just to recap I have been trying sustanon 250

> under the

> > > 'care' (i use the word loosely) of my GP.  i had

> one

> > > injection in december and it was a bit of a

> roller coaster,

> > > and had another last week.  i do feel a lot

> better on

> > > the whole but it is still a bit of a roller

> coaster.

> > >

> > > I saw an endo on the nhs who recommended a

> urologist if i

> > > wanted to try Testosterone replacement.  I

> mailed him

> > > but he didn't get back to me.  I then ended up

> seeing

> > > an unpleasant endo. he reluctantly agreed to let

> me try the

> > > sustanon for a few months 'as a boost'. also said

> i had

> > > metabolic syndrome.

> > >

> > >

> > > The urologist has finally got back to me, said

> he'd see me

> > > if i was referred, and said i should almost

> certainly be on

> > > T, and asked what did the endo say to me?  i

> said lose

> > > substantial amount of weight and very reluctantly

> offered me

> > > a 3-5 month dose of sustanon.

> > >

> > > well the urologist wrote back and said he never

> uses

> > > sustanon, it wears off too quick and the levels

> of it vary

> > > widely in the body.  he also said that the

> concept of

> > > using T 'as a boost' doesn't work like that, said

> it needs

> > > 6-12 months to have metabolic effect . He said he

> favoured

> > > Nebido or the gels.

> > >

> > > Has anyone tried nebido?  how did you get on

> with it?

> > > on the whole i'm ok with sustanon so i think i'd

> be ok with

> > > nebido.

> > >

> > >

> > > I asked my gp to refer me to this urologist but

> he didn't

> > > like that at all, said there's nothing wrong with

> sustanon

> > > and there's no point seeing a 5th consultant! (he

> would

> > > actually be the 4th, he can't count). it comes

> down to cost

> > > i think, equiva of about 5 dollars a go for sust,

> vs about

> > > 120 for nebido, and i'd need 3 jabs in 3 months

> of nebido.

> > >

> > > bottom line is, i could complain and force the

> issue and

> > > maybe get a referral but this would strain the

> already

> > > strained dr -patient relationship (it would also

> show the dr

> > > i won't be BSed). i think i'm going to have to

> change

> > > practices soon anyway, they're useless.

> > >

> > > Would people on here try to get a referral to the

> Nebido dr

> > > and be under specialist care?   Or try and

> > > see another endo? ik'm just wary that if i'm on T

> and then a

> > > thyroid condition is revealed or I needed HCG

> then the uro

> > > wouldn't do that.  Does HCG just increase

> testicle size

> > > ? i'm not bothered about fertility.  after a

> month of

> > > being on sust i tthink my testicles have hardly

> shrunk at

> > > all, i think they were hardly being stimulated at

> all by my

> > > body before anyway.

> > >

> > > way i see it i can either try and force this dr

> to refer me

> > > (he is not providing adqueate care) or wait for

> the 3-5

> > > months of T therapy and then ask for a referal? 

> but

> > > i'm concenred this gp does not know what he's

> doing and if i

> > > came off T after 3-5 months (potentially next

> month) my own

> > > T will be suppresed and i'll be in a mess, worse

> than

> > > ever. 

> > >

> > > Chris

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Here's an interesting study which uses an initial injection of 1000mgs and then

monthly injections of 500mgs

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/88/2/562

Here's another study showing using 1000mgs every 6 weeks

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10619981

> > >

> > > > From: <chrisjtaylor46@>

> > > > Subject: Nebido - is anyone on

> > this?

> > > >

> > > > Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 10:39 AM

> > > > Hi all

> > > >

> > > > Just to recap I have been trying sustanon 250

> > under the

> > > > 'care' (i use the word loosely) of my GP.  i had

> > one

> > > > injection in december and it was a bit of a

> > roller coaster,

> > > > and had another last week.  i do feel a lot

> > better on

> > > > the whole but it is still a bit of a roller

> > coaster.

> > > >

> > > > I saw an endo on the nhs who recommended a

> > urologist if i

> > > > wanted to try Testosterone replacement.  I

> > mailed him

> > > > but he didn't get back to me.  I then ended up

> > seeing

> > > > an unpleasant endo. he reluctantly agreed to let

> > me try the

> > > > sustanon for a few months 'as a boost'. also said

> > i had

> > > > metabolic syndrome.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The urologist has finally got back to me, said

> > he'd see me

> > > > if i was referred, and said i should almost

> > certainly be on

> > > > T, and asked what did the endo say to me?  i

> > said lose

> > > > substantial amount of weight and very reluctantly

> > offered me

> > > > a 3-5 month dose of sustanon.

> > > >

> > > > well the urologist wrote back and said he never

> > uses

> > > > sustanon, it wears off too quick and the levels

> > of it vary

> > > > widely in the body.  he also said that the

> > concept of

> > > > using T 'as a boost' doesn't work like that, said

> > it needs

> > > > 6-12 months to have metabolic effect . He said he

> > favoured

> > > > Nebido or the gels.

> > > >

> > > > Has anyone tried nebido?  how did you get on

> > with it?

> > > > on the whole i'm ok with sustanon so i think i'd

> > be ok with

> > > > nebido.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I asked my gp to refer me to this urologist but

> > he didn't

> > > > like that at all, said there's nothing wrong with

> > sustanon

> > > > and there's no point seeing a 5th consultant! (he

> > would

> > > > actually be the 4th, he can't count). it comes

> > down to cost

> > > > i think, equiva of about 5 dollars a go for sust,

> > vs about

> > > > 120 for nebido, and i'd need 3 jabs in 3 months

> > of nebido.

> > > >

> > > > bottom line is, i could complain and force the

> > issue and

> > > > maybe get a referral but this would strain the

> > already

> > > > strained dr -patient relationship (it would also

> > show the dr

> > > > i won't be BSed). i think i'm going to have to

> > change

> > > > practices soon anyway, they're useless.

> > > >

> > > > Would people on here try to get a referral to the

> > Nebido dr

> > > > and be under specialist care?   Or try and

> > > > see another endo? ik'm just wary that if i'm on T

> > and then a

> > > > thyroid condition is revealed or I needed HCG

> > then the uro

> > > > wouldn't do that.  Does HCG just increase

> > testicle size

> > > > ? i'm not bothered about fertility.  after a

> > month of

> > > > being on sust i tthink my testicles have hardly

> > shrunk at

> > > > all, i think they were hardly being stimulated at

> > all by my

> > > > body before anyway.

> > > >

> > > > way i see it i can either try and force this dr

> > to refer me

> > > > (he is not providing adqueate care) or wait for

> > the 3-5

> > > > months of T therapy and then ask for a referal? 

> > but

> > > > i'm concenred this gp does not know what he's

> > doing and if i

> > > > came off T after 3-5 months (potentially next

> > month) my own

> > > > T will be suppresed and i'll be in a mess, worse

> > than

> > > > ever. 

> > > >

> > > > Chris

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I have been on Sustanon, Patches, and Reandron/Nebido and found none of them

really worked for me, then went onto the Gel and have been on that for some time

and I can say I am a lot better on that, all the others spike and drove my E2 up

too far, but with the gel I can use it and keep my E2 at normal levels without

any further meds, just took a little time to get the dose at a satisfactory

level.

Gray