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It looks like your HPTA recovery is working but I would do a test for Adrenal

Fatigue first one good fast way is to do a morning fasting Cortisol blood test.

Here is the USA the range is for sitting 4 to 22 mcg/dL if your below 15 in the

morning you need to do more testing a 4x's in a day Saliva test. I don't know

how your going to do this in this link there is one you can order.

http://livingnetwork.co.za/hormones/adrenal-fatigue/

You need to do this before you start training again your T levels might have

gone down due to your training. So to be safe about this and not have a set

back do this.

Your labs look like your body is coming back still not yet there but something

is working. I would give it some more time.

And one thing your first test at 2.9 what time of the day did you do this if it

was not in the morning and your last one was all of this was in vain.

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Phil

> From: ginocrocket <ginocrocket@...>

> Subject: Blood work advice

>

> Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 1:23 PM

> Hello,

>

> I've been reading this forum for awhile now and there's

> great info for the guys who don't have access to

> undarstandig HRT docs, thanks Phil!!!

>

> Here' a little about me:

>

> 45 years old male from Mexico with family, job etc and

> competitive endurance athlete for many years..

>

> my low test symptoms started last year in February aprox...

> ED, poor recovery from usual workouts, poor sleep.. at first

> I tought I was overtraining, took a few weeks rest felt

> somewaht better but not 100% so I went to my family doc and

> had blood work done, all normal except testosterone that was

> 2.9ng/dl tha range being 3-10 so just like that he put me on

> sustanon 250 every  3 weeks for 4 months only.. he only

> checked total testosterone and CBC, metabolic panel, liver

> and kidney function and no tiroid panel. Felt good for a

> while but then started to have ED problems, soft erections,

> trouble mantaining erections..

>

> Well, at that time I started doing research by myself about

> TRT , HRT etc... and ended up doing 100mg sust x week and 2

> x 250 HCG and arimidex ... I did another blood work on that

> regimen and had 12.0 ng/dl test,  estradiol 50 

> pg/ml. Felt a lot better, in fact I felt great that was in

> September the only problem kept being ED somtimes I was good

> but just like that i couldn't get it up... it was

> frustraiting, I had to use cialis to be sure it would work

> :)

>

> So by  the 1st of November I stoped.. and started hpta

> recovery with 20 mg Nolvadex for 45 days satartin 15 of

> November, I felt ok during that time and in January stoped

> Nolvadex and I've been taking some ZMA at night to support

> test production as advised by a friend.. my libido and

> erection quality improved a lot, in fact, it's normal now.

> I'm about to start training next week so I went to check my

> levels to see where I am... and I want your advice on

> them  if possible, my LH and FSH are out f range but

> test is OK  and I feel good. I'm also doing HGH 1 iu

> daily for HRT also for 3 months.

> Thanks for your comments and opinions.

>

> F.S.H. : 0.82 mUI/ml

> RANGE 1.8 - 20

>

> L.H. 1.8 mUI/ml

> RANGE 4 - 28

>

> ESTRADIOL: 28.7 pg/ml

> RANGE 0-50

>

> TOTAL TESTOSTERONE 5.8 ng/ml

> RANGE 3.0 - 10.0

>

> T3 181.0 ng/dl

> RANGE 110 - 225

>

> T4 7.2 ug/dl

> RANGE 4.7 - 10.0

>

> T4 NORMALIZED 0.7

> RANGE 0.5 - 1.1

>

> TSH 1.59 uUI/ml

> RANGE 0.4 - 7.0

>

> FT4 1.3 ng/dl

> RANGE 0.8 - 2.4

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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Thanks for your reply Phil!!! When I do blood work is always at 7am and in

fasted state. I'll take a look at the link, I can check cortisol here in the

local lab I think...

Be well

Gibbo

>

> > From: ginocrocket <ginocrocket@...>

> > Subject: Blood work advice

> >

> > Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 1:23 PM

> > Hello,

> >

> > I've been reading this forum for awhile now and there's

> > great info for the guys who don't have access to

> > undarstandig HRT docs, thanks Phil!!!

> >

> > Here' a little about me:

> >

> > 45 years old male from Mexico with family, job etc and

> > competitive endurance athlete for many years..

> >

> > my low test symptoms started last year in February aprox...

> > ED, poor recovery from usual workouts, poor sleep.. at first

> > I tought I was overtraining, took a few weeks rest felt

> > somewaht better but not 100% so I went to my family doc and

> > had blood work done, all normal except testosterone that was

> > 2.9ng/dl tha range being 3-10 so just like that he put me on

> > sustanon 250 every  3 weeks for 4 months only.. he only

> > checked total testosterone and CBC, metabolic panel, liver

> > and kidney function and no tiroid panel. Felt good for a

> > while but then started to have ED problems, soft erections,

> > trouble mantaining erections..

> >

> > Well, at that time I started doing research by myself about

> > TRT , HRT etc... and ended up doing 100mg sust x week and 2

> > x 250 HCG and arimidex ... I did another blood work on that

> > regimen and had 12.0 ng/dl test,  estradiol 50 

> > pg/ml. Felt a lot better, in fact I felt great that was in

> > September the only problem kept being ED somtimes I was good

> > but just like that i couldn't get it up... it was

> > frustraiting, I had to use cialis to be sure it would work

> > :)

> >

> > So by  the 1st of November I stoped.. and started hpta

> > recovery with 20 mg Nolvadex for 45 days satartin 15 of

> > November, I felt ok during that time and in January stoped

> > Nolvadex and I've been taking some ZMA at night to support

> > test production as advised by a friend.. my libido and

> > erection quality improved a lot, in fact, it's normal now.

> > I'm about to start training next week so I went to check my

> > levels to see where I am... and I want your advice on

> > them  if possible, my LH and FSH are out f range but

> > test is OK  and I feel good. I'm also doing HGH 1 iu

> > daily for HRT also for 3 months.

> > Thanks for your comments and opinions.

> >

> > F.S.H. : 0.82 mUI/ml

> > RANGE 1.8 - 20

> >

> > L.H. 1.8 mUI/ml

> > RANGE 4 - 28

> >

> > ESTRADIOL: 28.7 pg/ml

> > RANGE 0-50

> >

> > TOTAL TESTOSTERONE 5.8 ng/ml

> > RANGE 3.0 - 10.0

> >

> > T3 181.0 ng/dl

> > RANGE 110 - 225

> >

> > T4 7.2 ug/dl

> > RANGE 4.7 - 10.0

> >

> > T4 NORMALIZED 0.7

> > RANGE 0.5 - 1.1

> >

> > TSH 1.59 uUI/ml

> > RANGE 0.4 - 7.0

> >

> > FT4 1.3 ng/dl

> > RANGE 0.8 - 2.4

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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