Re: Link 2 good HCG info I can take in 2 my GP?

[Guest guest]

Yes here is a copy from Dr. at allthingsmale.com that he sent to me on the

forums to help me get my Dr. to let me use HCG hope it helps if not you can

still buy it over seas let me know what you want to do.

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He probably feels that since you suffer primary hypogonadism (I am guessing)

there is no use in adding HCG to your protocol. There are several reasons why

this is not so. First, you have not lost all Leydig cells, so any HCG you take

will stimulate those who still function to produce endogenous testosterone.

This will support testicular size. We should not ignore this aesthetic

consideration.

Next, if he reads my work, he will learn that HPTA-suppressed (as all TRT

patients are to some extent) also suffer decreased pregenenolone levels, which

is the first step after CHOL in all three hormonal pathways which begin with

CHOL. HCG increases pregnenolone production, and therefore restores a more

natural balance of our hormones.

Next, nearly all TRT patients who add in HCG to their regimens report an

increased sense of well-being and also libido. These are genuine quality of life

issues.

Finally, I just instinctively do not want all those LH receptors (including

those we have yet to discover and appreciate) unstimulated.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: threefingers_in_the_box <no_reply >

> Subject: Link 2 good HCG info I can take in 2 my GP?

>

> Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 12:25 PM

> Does anybody have some good info on

> the benefits of HCG I can take in 2 my GP to convince him 2

> give me a script for 250 iu's twice a week? I am getting

> tired of hunting it down myself. Maybe something from Doctor

> or other specialists?

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ok thanks Phil, I saved all that. I will try and take in as much info as I can.

if anyone has more info please keep firing away.....!!

>

> > From: threefingers_in_the_box <no_reply >

> > Subject: Link 2 good HCG info I can take in 2 my GP?

> >

> > Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 12:25 PM

> > Does anybody have some good info on

> > the benefits of HCG I can take in 2 my GP to convince him 2

> > give me a script for 250 iu's twice a week? I am getting

> > tired of hunting it down myself. Maybe something from Doctor

> > or other specialists?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Formal documentation with references would be Perfect...!!

> >

> > > From: threefingers_in_the_box <no_reply >

> > > Subject: Link 2 good HCG info I can take in 2 my GP?

> > >

> > > Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 12:25 PM

> > > Does anybody have some good info on

> > > the benefits of HCG I can take in 2 my GP to convince him 2

> > > give me a script for 250 iu's twice a week? I am getting

> > > tired of hunting it down myself. Maybe something from Doctor

> > > or other specialists?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Best I can for this is the AACE Guildelines in this they talk about using HCG.

http://www.aace.com/pub/pdf/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf

And if you go to Dr. 's site www.allthingsmale.com and read his HCG Update

this study backs up what he dose.

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/90/5/2595

It's not about proving to a Dr. why HCG is good for men on TRT it's about Dr.'s

that are up on doing TRT. Men that are Secondary have a Pituitary Problem are

given HCG because there Testis work just don't get told to work so there

Pituitary dose not send enough LH the message that tells the Testis to make more

Testosterone. Any Dr. that would ask a Secondary man to show him a study about

it's use for Secondary men is not up on treating men.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: threefingers_in_the_box <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: Link 2 good HCG info I can take in 2 my GP?

>

> Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 12:48 PM

> Formal documentation with references

> would be Perfect...!!

>

>

> > >

> > > > From: threefingers_in_the_box <no_reply >

> > > > Subject: Link 2 good HCG info

> I can take in 2 my GP?

> > > >

> > > > Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 12:25 PM

> > > > Does anybody have some good info on

> > > > the benefits of HCG I can take in 2 my GP to

> convince him 2

> > > > give me a script for 250 iu's twice a week?

> I am getting

> > > > tired of hunting it down myself. Maybe

> something from Doctor

> > > > or other specialists?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

If this helps at all, when I first tried to get HCG, my insurance company

denied the claim. My doctor submitted paperwork and the claim was approved.

Later, when I got copies of my records from the doctor, that paperwork was

included. The reason the doctor gave for the prescription that resulted in

the approval from the insurance company: " Testicle size "

I was actually sort of dumbfounded at first, but then I thought about it.

After mastectomies due to breast cancer, most insurance companies will pay

for women to have implants. I guess it works for men, too.

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On Behalf Of philip georgian

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 1:41 PM

Subject: Re: Link 2 good HCG info I can take in 2 my GP?

Best I can for this is the AACE Guildelines in this they talk about using

HCG.

http://www.aace.com/pub/pdf/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf

And if you go to Dr. 's site www.allthingsmale.com and read his HCG

Update this study backs up what he dose.

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/90/5/2595

It's not about proving to a Dr. why HCG is good for men on TRT it's about

Dr.'s that are up on doing TRT. Men that are Secondary have a Pituitary

Problem are given HCG because there Testis work just don't get told to work

so there Pituitary dose not send enough LH the message that tells the Testis

to make more Testosterone. Any Dr. that would ask a Secondary man to show

him a study about it's use for Secondary men is not up on treating men.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: threefingers_in_the_box <no_reply

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> Subject: Re: Link 2 good HCG info I can take in 2 my GP?

> <mailto: %40>

> Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 12:48 PM

> Formal documentation with references

> would be Perfect...!!

>

>

> > >

> > > > From: threefingers_in_the_box <no_reply

<mailto:no_reply%40> >

> > > > Subject: Link 2 good HCG info

> I can take in 2 my GP?

> > > >

<mailto: %40>

> > > > Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 12:25 PM

> > > > Does anybody have some good info on

> > > > the benefits of HCG I can take in 2 my GP to

> convince him 2

> > > > give me a script for 250 iu's twice a week?

> I am getting

> > > > tired of hunting it down myself. Maybe

> something from Doctor

> > > > or other specialists?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >