Wellbutrin

January 14, 2004

My mom is taking wellbutrin right now to stop smoking. She quit cold

turkey the same day she started the wellbutrin. She has not smoked

one cigarette in 2 weeks.

I quit smoking 2 weeks ago as well. However, I am not taking anything

for it either. Just went cold turkey with a lot of will power.

However, I realize will power isn't enough for most people to quit.

January 14, 2004

Jacquie,

I am on 200 to 300 mgs a day depending on the type of day. It has cut

my desire down from a pack a day to 1 or 3 (it's a ocd thing} a day.

You might not be able to quit by your brithday but your cravings

should be way down.

Tom

> Hi Astra

> I am on Wellbutrin SR now for smoking. And I am

making improvements. I

> was a pack a day smoker. Now I am down to a pack lasting me 3

days. It's

> not a quick stop smoking system, but for me aleast, it made my

cravings go

> down. And a big improvement...I am on Wellbutrin SR 150mg a day for

the last

> 2 weeks....My goal is to stop by Feb 25th, My birthday...Ask your

dr. about

> it....I have had no sides....thus far....

>

> Jacquie

>

> Wellbutrin

>

> My company just anoounced today that no smoking is allowed on their

campus

> (which is huge) -

> even in personal vehicles.

>

> Has anybody taken Wellbutrin for smoking cessation? Does it work?

>

January 15, 2004

Tom,

Well;that will be better than nothing. Another improvement for me is that

usually I by a carton every 1 1/2 but I am still on the same carton from 3

weeks ago. I feel good about that.....I am still shooting for my birthday.

but if not it's okay cause I am making a step in the right direction by

quitting. My youngest is so happy about me trying to quit....That too is

motivation enough for me to quit....

Thanks Tom

Jacquie

Wellbutrin

>

> My company just anoounced today that no smoking is allowed on their

campus

> (which is huge) -

> even in personal vehicles.

>

> Has anybody taken Wellbutrin for smoking cessation? Does it work?

>

May 19, 2004

Perhaps the stimulant effect is useful when one is losing the

combined stimulant/relaxation effect of nicotine, but the history of

the drug is as I said it--not because people didn't want to take an

antidepressant, but because it was incorrectly associated with

seizure risk, given a bad rap, and dthey had to reinvent the drug,

and that's how they did it. I dont trust pharma studies anyway, they

are often corrupt (look at all the info that is finally comjing out

about SSRI's now that has been suppressed). For instnace, because

there are so many SSRI's out there, all very similar, they market

them to different niches. They market luvox for OCD. When they are

goinig to lose a patent on one, say celexa, they slightly alter its

chemical structure and rename it (now, lexapro) and make claims for

it that cannot be substantiated--basically in order not to lose their

market share to a generic...

Anyway, of all the antidepressants around today, it seems the least

toxic, and if it helps someone get off cigarettes, that's good.

> > Glad to hear about the wake up call of your husband.

> >

> > Wellbutrin (xyban) is not specifically to stop smoking. The

> history

> > of wellbutrin is that although its an effective antidepressant

> > without sexual side effects, there were early and fairly

inaccurate

> > reports about seizure risk, which gave it a bad rep initially and

> it

> > mostly lost out to the SSRI's. I wokrs on norepinephrine, not

> > serotonin (norepinephrine is stimulating). People often have

less

> > appetite and a friend used it for a year to help her lose weight.

> >

> > It has little to do with the urge to smoke, which is related to

> > nicotine, which has an affinity for acetycholine receptors in the

> > brain and is a drug with many effects we don't know a lot about

> yet,

> > some of them protective (nicotine is a very interesting drug but

> also

> > very addictive). Anyway, the company that makes wellbutrin

decided

> to

> > remarket it as xyban as anti-smoking.

> >

> > It's okay he's on it, probably, and it may give him a " lift " that

> > nicotine used to do, but they aren't comparable and maybe a

> nicotine

> > patch would work just as well. He may have been self medicating

> with

> > nicotine, as many people do. It combats depression, and it's

also

> > known to for some reason lessen ulcerative colitis (smokers don't

> get

> > u.c. nearly as often).

May 19, 2004

there is a muscle testing book by donald lepore called 'the ultimate healing

system'

he mentions a possible remedy for smoking which is niacinamide. it has

something to do with the nicacinamde being a mirror image molecule of

nicotinic acid and this will satisfy some people's nicotine addiction.

May 19, 2004

there is a muscle testing book by donald lepore called 'the ultimate healing

system'

he mentions a possible remedy for smoking which is niacinamide. it has

something to do with the nicacinamde being a mirror image molecule of

nicotinic acid and this will satisfy some people's nicotine addiction.

May 19, 2004

Jill, Wanda & interested others,

Having been an Herbalist for over 40 years (I'm 61) and having seen

Lobelia Tincture WORK Time after Time, I'd HIGHLY recommend taking

this POWERFUL Herb to STOP the Addiction of Tobacco!

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There are some VERY SERIOUS Uses for Lobelia Tincture (see below),

among which are Asthma Attacks, Epileptic Seizures and Parkinson's

Tremors. Our Government has tried to BAN this Herb, but for NOW,

it's STILL AVAILABLE to us.

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I'd also recommend taking Dr. Schulze's Nerve Formula, which also has

Valerian Root, which is a POWERFUL Nervine, among it's various Herbal

Ingredients.

Please see Nerve Sedative and Anti-Spasmodic Tonic.

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below.

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A few years ago, I wrote this SHORT Article about Tobacco, which has

Information, that MOST People don't know about this Nightshade

Vegetable.

http://healingtools.tripod.com/tobacco.html

" THANKS " for your time and interest!

Tom/Psa. 139:13, 14.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > > Glad to hear about the wake up call of your husband.

> > >

> > > Wellbutrin (xyban) is not specifically to stop smoking. The

> > history

> > > of wellbutrin is that although its an effective antidepressant

> > > without sexual side effects, there were early and fairly

> inaccurate

> > > reports about seizure risk, which gave it a bad rep initially

and

> > it

> > > mostly lost out to the SSRI's. I wokrs on norepinephrine, not

> > > serotonin (norepinephrine is stimulating). People often have

> less

> > > appetite and a friend used it for a year to help her lose

weight.

> > >

> > > It has little to do with the urge to smoke, which is related to

> > > nicotine, which has an affinity for acetycholine receptors in

the

> > > brain and is a drug with many effects we don't know a lot about

> > yet,

> > > some of them protective (nicotine is a very interesting drug

but

> > also

> > > very addictive). Anyway, the company that makes wellbutrin

> decided

> > to

> > > remarket it as xyban as anti-smoking.

> > >

> > > It's okay he's on it, probably, and it may give him a " lift "

that

> > > nicotine used to do, but they aren't comparable and maybe a

> > nicotine

> > > patch would work just as well. He may have been self medicating

> > with

> > > nicotine, as many people do. It combats depression, and it's

> also

> > > known to for some reason lessen ulcerative colitis (smokers

don't

> > get

> > > u.c. nearly as often).

December 5, 2004

In a message dated 12/5/04 10:33:58 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> I believe that

> Wellbutrin is is one of the newer SRI's on the market. I have never

> heard it pin-pointed as one of the contreversial antidepressants

It is actually an older drug, and it was taken off the market in the 80's

because of serious and fatal side effects. The main dangers of this drug are

seizures and strokes. it's known as the Energizer Bunny of antidepressants. It

has been linked to all kinds of deaths in the UK, notably from blood clots or

seizures.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

December 5, 2004

In a message dated 12/5/04 10:33:58 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> I believe that

> Wellbutrin is is one of the newer SRI's on the market. I have never

> heard it pin-pointed as one of the contreversial antidepressants

It is actually an older drug, and it was taken off the market in the 80's

because of serious and fatal side effects. The main dangers of this drug are

seizures and strokes. it's known as the Energizer Bunny of antidepressants. It

has been linked to all kinds of deaths in the UK, notably from blood clots or

seizures.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

December 5, 2004

In a message dated 12/5/04 10:33:58 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> I believe that

> Wellbutrin is is one of the newer SRI's on the market. I have never

> heard it pin-pointed as one of the contreversial antidepressants

It is actually an older drug, and it was taken off the market in the 80's

because of serious and fatal side effects. The main dangers of this drug are

seizures and strokes. it's known as the Energizer Bunny of antidepressants. It

has been linked to all kinds of deaths in the UK, notably from blood clots or

seizures.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

December 5, 2004

In a message dated 12/5/04 10:33:58 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> I believe that

> Wellbutrin is is one of the newer SRI's on the market. I have never

> heard it pin-pointed as one of the contreversial antidepressants

It is actually an older drug, and it was taken off the market in the 80's

because of serious and fatal side effects. The main dangers of this drug are

seizures and strokes. it's known as the Energizer Bunny of antidepressants. It

has been linked to all kinds of deaths in the UK, notably from blood clots or

seizures.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

December 5, 2004

Wellbutrin is still being prescribed in the USA.

It was also prescribed instead of Zyban,

same drug - different name, when there was a

push for people in the '90's to use Zyban for

smoking cessation because several insurance companies

would not approve smoking cessation drugs, so

Wellbutrin was prescribed and insurance-approved

instead. Same-same.

Just me..... Jan

=========================================

On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 13:58:15 EST glitterari@... writes:

In a message dated 12/5/04 10:33:58 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> I believe that

> Wellbutrin is is one of the newer SRI's on the market. I have never

> heard it pin-pointed as one of the contreversial antidepressants

It is actually an older drug, and it was taken off the market in the 80's

because of serious and fatal side effects. The main dangers of this drug

are

seizures and strokes. it's known as the Energizer Bunny of

antidepressants. It

has been linked to all kinds of deaths in the UK, notably from blood

clots or

seizures.

=================

..

December 5, 2004

Wellbutrin is still being prescribed in the USA.

It was also prescribed instead of Zyban,

same drug - different name, when there was a

push for people in the '90's to use Zyban for

smoking cessation because several insurance companies

would not approve smoking cessation drugs, so

Wellbutrin was prescribed and insurance-approved

instead. Same-same.

Just me..... Jan

=========================================

On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 13:58:15 EST glitterari@... writes:

In a message dated 12/5/04 10:33:58 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> I believe that

> Wellbutrin is is one of the newer SRI's on the market. I have never

> heard it pin-pointed as one of the contreversial antidepressants

It is actually an older drug, and it was taken off the market in the 80's

because of serious and fatal side effects. The main dangers of this drug

are

seizures and strokes. it's known as the Energizer Bunny of

antidepressants. It

has been linked to all kinds of deaths in the UK, notably from blood

clots or

seizures.

=================

..

December 10, 2004

In a message dated 12/10/04 12:36:12 PM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> My wife and 10 year old (mild bipolar) daughter have been on

> Wellbutrin for about 1 year and the results have been all positive.

> We have been fortunate in that we could financially afford to

> investigate any and all remedies (e.g. therapy, personal trainer,

> natural remedies etc.) and have found, for our family, that

> Wellbutrin is a unique and positive influence (not the only

> component of a solution, just part of it).

>

Congratulations! You now have a medicated family. Wellbutrin was already

taken off the market once because of its deadly side effects. You're really

fooling yourself if you think that these drugs really work and produce a

positive

effect and that that effect outweighs the silent damage this drug is doing to

your loved ones' brains and overall health. There is no clinical proof of

ADD. I'm sorry that you resorted to such a dangerous drug to treat your family.

I hope your wife doesn't have a massive stroke like my sister did while on

Wellbutrin.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

December 10, 2004

In a message dated 12/10/04 12:36:12 PM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> My wife and 10 year old (mild bipolar) daughter have been on

> Wellbutrin for about 1 year and the results have been all positive.

> We have been fortunate in that we could financially afford to

> investigate any and all remedies (e.g. therapy, personal trainer,

> natural remedies etc.) and have found, for our family, that

> Wellbutrin is a unique and positive influence (not the only

> component of a solution, just part of it).

>

Congratulations! You now have a medicated family. Wellbutrin was already

taken off the market once because of its deadly side effects. You're really

fooling yourself if you think that these drugs really work and produce a

positive

effect and that that effect outweighs the silent damage this drug is doing to

your loved ones' brains and overall health. There is no clinical proof of

ADD. I'm sorry that you resorted to such a dangerous drug to treat your family.

I hope your wife doesn't have a massive stroke like my sister did while on

Wellbutrin.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

December 14, 2004

In a message dated 12/14/04 3:29:50 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> If we had multiple

> reports of wellbutrin success stories over a period of time, perhaps they

> might be more believable. But we've heard nothing but the opposite, and for

>

> quite a long time. Except for now, in the immediate aftermath of the Prime

> Time Live show.

But let's not forget WHY they would hark on about Wellbutrin after the Paxil

skewering . . . it's made by GLAXOBINLADEN!!!!!! Were they trying to do

damage control as in saying, Hey, not all the drugs they make are dangerous mind

altering rat poison!!

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

December 14, 2004

In a message dated 12/14/04 3:29:50 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> If we had multiple

> reports of wellbutrin success stories over a period of time, perhaps they

> might be more believable. But we've heard nothing but the opposite, and for

>

> quite a long time. Except for now, in the immediate aftermath of the Prime

> Time Live show.

But let's not forget WHY they would hark on about Wellbutrin after the Paxil

skewering . . . it's made by GLAXOBINLADEN!!!!!! Were they trying to do

damage control as in saying, Hey, not all the drugs they make are dangerous mind

altering rat poison!!

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

December 14, 2004

In a message dated 12/14/04 3:29:50 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> If we had multiple

> reports of wellbutrin success stories over a period of time, perhaps they

> might be more believable. But we've heard nothing but the opposite, and for

>

> quite a long time. Except for now, in the immediate aftermath of the Prime

> Time Live show.

But let's not forget WHY they would hark on about Wellbutrin after the Paxil

skewering . . . it's made by GLAXOBINLADEN!!!!!! Were they trying to do

damage control as in saying, Hey, not all the drugs they make are dangerous mind

altering rat poison!!

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

December 14, 2004

In a message dated 12/14/04 3:29:50 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> If we had multiple

> reports of wellbutrin success stories over a period of time, perhaps they

> might be more believable. But we've heard nothing but the opposite, and for

>

> quite a long time. Except for now, in the immediate aftermath of the Prime

> Time Live show.

But let's not forget WHY they would hark on about Wellbutrin after the Paxil

skewering . . . it's made by GLAXOBINLADEN!!!!!! Were they trying to do

damage control as in saying, Hey, not all the drugs they make are dangerous mind

altering rat poison!!

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

January 26, 2006

Wellbutrin can make you sleepy and help with sleep so you want to take it at

night. You only take it once a day so it stays with you so you don't need to

worry about that part. You just don't want to be zonked all day and awake all

night (unless you work graveyard-lol). so yes, you take it once daily but it

should say take " one daily at bedtime " . Hope it helps with everything.

e

Ginger Sunshine <pct777@...> wrote:

Hi Mel,

Yes I can just get so angry and then I turn it in ward to myself as I am not

good enough because of my JRA he hates me and he always seems to have the time

to tell me in some way.

Hey break a leg for a living, now what a nice idea. ha ha ha ha.

Although I have been in so much pain I couldn't think of inflecting pain on

anyone even my worst enemy.

I am just so worried about where we will move and how and all the packing and

stuff. Man couldn't sleep at all.

And then to top it all off he is so mean about it!!!

Ha ha ha ha I like the idea of watching Earl. ha ha ha yes just what I needed.

I went to my Rhumy today and after telling her of all this she gave me

wellbretrim I don't know the spelling as I don't have them here by me, but the

pharmacy told me to take them at night only, yet the bottle says once a day. Now

why on earth would I want to take them when I am sleeping???? I need them during

the day when he comes by or keeps calling me to do something for him. I need

them now not at night. So, I guess I will have to call her and ask her when can

I start. It says in the note with the pills that it can make you dizzy and

sleepy so that sure will help at night too.

Thank you so much for the laugh I needed that and also for your good ideas.

Hugs; paulette

Coomes <michellecoomes@...> wrote:

AMEN to that Mel!

Mel <melandhubbies@...> wrote:

Oh ette I am so sorry to hear that your ex is a snake! If you

live in Michigan my mom has always told me about a guy she knows who

breaks legs for a living:) Maybe we could give him a call:)

Nice thought though isn't it....I am a firm believer in karma. Those

who do not live a good and moral life will be doomed to a lifetime of

nagging bosses, whiny kids and dogs who crap in their shoesLOL

Brew yourself a nice cup of tea and watch the show My Name Is Earl.

It will make you laugh as you envision all of the rotten things that

will happen to your ex. If not at least it will give you ideas.

Mel

>

> Hi everyone, just wanted to update you all. I am the one who wanted

to give up smoking??? remember?? well forget it!!! my ex is selling

this house right out from under us.

>

> Number two I have two people on a relaltor and one from a church

looking for something we can rent.

>

> Number three, i am going to see my rhumy which I had made an

appoitment a long time ago but will see me tomorrow and she is giving

me some anti depressents. Better work fast as I am so depressed whith

what my ex has been doing under us which i am sure is due to his new

wife and how mean he is in the process.

>

> well sorry to keep you all. hugs and hope all is going good for all.

>

> hugs; paulette (ginger)

>

January 26, 2006

Hi e, Oh man thanks so much! This is what the pharmasist said to me but

not the doctor of course. I am going to try one tonight before bed. I could use

the sleep.

Hugs; paulette

bound for london <boundforlondon@...> wrote: