Re: Just Diagnosed With Low T...

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeff and Welcome,

Dr. Gorden is good the only problems I have seen with him is he starts men on

shots every 2 weeks. In his office so you to find out about this if your drive

is a long way your better off doing your own shots. Every week if your going a

long way to see him your better off seeing Dr. here in Mi. Or getting your

family Dr. to work with him over the phone. One thing that you need to get done

is to find out why your this low.

If your Problem can be fixed you will not need to be on TRT and being on TRT is

for life and stops your Testis from working. Most of us on TRT take HCG to keep

the Testis working.

As for your sperm count have this checked if it's good have some frozen for a

back up in case when you want kids you have a problem.

Can you stop TRT and go back to where you were most can't but then with your

levels this low why would you. Your levels are that of a 100 yr old man in

range but not good.

Dr. Gorden is good but I have not see to many men that see him we have just one

so far. I don't think he is up on high levels of Estradiol in men on TRT when

this happens it holds your feeling better on TRT back and needs to be tested and

if high treated to keep it down.

Most of us use Arimidex it comes in a 1mg pill we cut it into 4 parts and take

..25 mgs every 2 to 3 days to keep it down.

If you go on TRT you want to get your Total Testosterone levels up into the

upper 1/3 of your labs range and you need to keep your Estradiol down to about

20 pg/ml. Doing this your body will start to undo any bad things that you have

from low Testosterone. It's not an over night thing it takes time but you do

feel better a little bit everyday.

Do go to Dr. 's site and read TRT: A Recipe for Success and His HCG Update

in this are labs you need and why he puts this out there free for you and your

Dr. He is about the best of the best Dr. for this problem.

www.allthingsmale.com and his forum is at

http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=2

We have a links and files section you can go to from the home page on the left

it's full of info about this problem do go there and read up on this so you know

when you see a Dr. that he is up on this.

Here are some to get you started.

http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=450553

I can't stress this point enough don't go on TRT until you find out why your low

if you do you might not ever find out. Most of the things that can make a man's

Testosterone levels low if you fix them the levels will come back up.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: jeffmack5858 <no_reply >

> Subject: Just Diagnosed With Low T...

>

> Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 6:22 PM

> I have low T... (350 ng/dL) And I've

> been feeling the effects for awhile. I'm 25 with hardly any

> facial hair, I look like I'm 18, I'm skinny, foggy head,

> etc. All the symptoms.

>

> But after 2 doctors refused to prescribe me T I finally

> found Dr. Gordon online: http://www.thehiddendisease.com/

>

> We've been emailing back and fourth and I'm going to make

> an appointment with him on Monday to go to Brooklyn, NY so

> he can check me out and give me a prescription.

>

> The biggest things I'm wondering about T replacement is...

>

> - How can I keep my natural T levels going so my sperm

> count doesn't suffer and I can keep my sex drive?

>

> - If I decide to stop taking T, will my natural T

> production come back? Or will I kill off my natural T

> production forever?

>

> - Has anyone noticed any other adverse side effects I

> should know about?

>

> Thanks for your time guys, looking forward to contributing

> my experiences here.

>

> -Jeff

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jeff, you may want to ask Dr. Gordon how he will deal with your E2 level if it

becomes elevated. I've read on the forums that he does notpay too much attention

to this.

If you are closer to Philadelphia PA, you may want to contact Dr. Overbeck

instead. I have his phone number if you should want it. He treats mens hormones

as a whole. Not just testosterone.

>

> I have low T... (350 ng/dL) And I've been feeling the effects for awhile. I'm

25 with hardly any facial hair, I look like I'm 18, I'm skinny, foggy head, etc.

All the symptoms.

>

> But after 2 doctors refused to prescribe me T I finally found Dr. Gordon

online: http://www.thehiddendisease.com/

>

> We've been emailing back and fourth and I'm going to make an appointment with

him on Monday to go to Brooklyn, NY so he can check me out and give me a

prescription.

>

> The biggest things I'm wondering about T replacement is...

>

> - How can I keep my natural T levels going so my sperm count doesn't suffer

and I can keep my sex drive?

>

> - If I decide to stop taking T, will my natural T production come back? Or

will I kill off my natural T production forever?

>

> - Has anyone noticed any other adverse side effects I should know about?

>

> Thanks for your time guys, looking forward to contributing my experiences

here.

>

> -Jeff

>

[Guest guest]

You need to think long and hard before starting testosterone replacement

therapy.

Taking exogenous testosterone will almost certainly shut down your natural T

production. Essentinally, after a few months on T, you will need it for the

rest of your life.

Eventually you will be sterile. Some T can convert to Estrogen through the

process of aromatization and you might even feminize to some degree.

350 if low, but still in the normal range. It would be better if it were 700,

but half a loaf is better than none.

My T was 150 and I was 58 years old when I started HRT.

Don't start down this path until you really need to.

Randy Hoops

Springfield, MO

>

> I have low T... (350 ng/dL) And I've been feeling the effects for awhile. I'm

25 with hardly any facial hair, I look like I'm 18, I'm skinny, foggy head, etc.

All the symptoms.

>

> But after 2 doctors refused to prescribe me T I finally found Dr. Gordon

online: http://www.thehiddendisease.com/

>

> We've been emailing back and fourth and I'm going to make an appointment with

him on Monday to go to Brooklyn, NY so he can check me out and give me a

prescription.

>

> The biggest things I'm wondering about T replacement is...

>

> - How can I keep my natural T levels going so my sperm count doesn't suffer

and I can keep my sex drive?

>

> - If I decide to stop taking T, will my natural T production come back? Or

will I kill off my natural T production forever?

>

> - Has anyone noticed any other adverse side effects I should know about?

>

> Thanks for your time guys, looking forward to contributing my experiences

here.

>

> -Jeff

>

[Guest guest]

Jeff,

Sorry to hear about your low T diagnosis. THere are some other things your

doctor should test, and you should find out...

At your age, I don't know how low the chances of prostate cancer are, but if T

is given to someone who has it, it is thought to infllame it seriously. So,

although the PSA test is far from perfect, you should discuss this issue with

your doc.

The other thing is, there is primary hypogonadism and secondary. The first (if

I recall) is where the testes themselves have a problem. The second is where

the testes are OK, but the pituitary is not sending the hormone needed for the

testes to release the right level of T. The treatment of low T would vary

depending on which you have.

You might want to do a search for hypogonadism " protocols " --i.e., approved

diagnosis and treatment steps, usually developed by a professional organization

(such as the American Assn of Clinical Endocrinologists or The Endocrine

Society) or one of the govt health units (National Cancer Institute, National

Institutes of Health)...

Good luck at your appointment,

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> I have low T... (350 ng/dL) And I've been feeling the effects for awhile. I'm

25 with hardly any facial hair, I look like I'm 18, I'm skinny, foggy head, etc.

All the symptoms.

>

> But after 2 doctors refused to prescribe me T I finally found Dr. Gordon

online: http://www.thehiddendisease.com/

>

> We've been emailing back and fourth and I'm going to make an appointment with

him on M