Re: Testosterone injections 2 times weekly

[Guest guest]

If your over doing working out and when I say this guys get up set telling me I

am not over doing but listen to me. If your over doing it your body is not

healing in between workouts your going to stress out your body and Adrenals and

this can eat up your Testosterone big time.

I feel 300 mgs / week is big time over kill you need to find out why your using

up your Testosterone meds so fast. If you have a low grade infection this will

eat up your T meds big time. I was getting a bladder infection and my levels

would fall from 800 to 450 so I have been down this road my Dr. was giving me

200 mgs of Depo T shots on top of the 10 grams of Androgel I was on.

One other thing that will eat up your T meds fast is a low SHBG.

I do well on 80 mgs of Test C every 3 days and I do HCG 250 IU's the day before

my next T shot.

If your not recovering fast after a workout your over doing it. Keep in mind

men with low T are sick your can't go to the gym and try to become a Body

Builder trying this is nuts.

You can make gains after you get leveled off some men never do this right they

keep there levels to low don't feel great and there for there body never

recovers form having low T. You need to get leveled off keep it this way being

up into the upper 1/3 of your labs range and keeping your Estradiol levels down

to about 20 pg/ml.

If it after this your body will start to undo the damage down by having low T in

the first place and this is a slow process.

So go slow don't over do it.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: gviceman77@... <gviceman77@...>

> Subject: Testosterone injections 2 times weekly

>

> Cc: gviceman77@...

> Date: Friday, June 11, 2010, 10:29 PM

> I have been on Test injections for

> about 3.5 months; I started  at .5 cc

> and have been at 1 cc for about a month. HcG on the 5th and

> 6 day  500 IU.

>

> Total Testosterone is only to 374

> % free test is 4.17

> free test is at 156.

> PSA 1.0

>

>

> Estradiol was 60 about 6 weeks ago but I have been on 

> Anastrozole .5 mg

> every other day;  labs last week Estradiol now

> at  28.

>

> My Dr. wants Testosterone level in the 700 to 900 range

> and  wants me to do

>

> 300mg of testosterone weekly which is  0.75cc on

> every  Monday and Thursday

> and HcG 500 IU on Tuesday and  Fridays.

>

> I read on this site that some guys use up their

> testosterone  quickly. 

>

> I lift weights 3 times weekly, I have a very muscular 

> build.  I do cardio

> as well and play intense racquetball.

>

> Any thought on this  regiment??

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

There's a lot of truth to this. I've been back to lifting weights for a

few months now. Things have been going good with decent recovery

afterwards, although after my wo last wed. I felt like i fried my

adrenals. I've been really run down with hypoglycemia type symptoms

since. I started a 1/2 tablet iodoral a few days prior under my docs

direction. I feel this had something to do with my adrenal crash as my

adrenals were shaky to begin with.

I stopped the iodoral a few days ago but still feel like crap. Would

taking isocort help bring back the adrenals?

>

> > From: gviceman77@... gviceman77@...

> > Subject: Testosterone injections 2 times weekly

> >

> > Cc: gviceman77@...

> > Date: Friday, June 11, 2010, 10:29 PM

> > I have been on Test injections for

> > about 3.5 months; I started at .5 cc

> > and have been at 1 cc for about a month. HcG on the 5th and

> > 6 day 500 IU.

> >

> > Total Testosterone is only to 374

> > % free test is 4.17

> > free test is at 156.

> > PSA 1.0

> >

> >

> > Estradiol was 60 about 6 weeks ago but I have been on

> > Anastrozole .5 mg

> > every other day; labs last week Estradiol now

> > at 28.

> >

> > My Dr. wants Testosterone level in the 700 to 900 range

> > and wants me to do

> >

> > 300mg of testosterone weekly which is 0.75cc on

> > every Monday and Thursday

> > and HcG 500 IU on Tuesday and Fridays.

> >

> > I read on this site that some guys use up their

> > testosterone quickly.

> >

> > I lift weights 3 times weekly, I have a very muscular

> > build. I do cardio

> > as well and play intense racquetball.

> >

> > Any thought on this regiment??

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Most of the men I know with AF and low T take Cortef HC 5 mgs 4x's a day. Men

that can't get there Dr. to treat this take Isocort it is sold OTC.

You start with one pill and go up one pill every 3 to 5 days until your taking 2

pills 4x's a day or every 4 hrs.

Working out to hard will stress your adrenals you need to treat them first then

start out slow in the gym. The best thing you can do now is take it easy until

you can get this treated.

Did you test your Cotrisol levels with a 4x's in a day Saliva test if not do

this.

http://livingnetwork.co.za/hormones/adrenal-fatigue/

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=12 & t=256

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: jim <virtuosa150@...>

> Subject: Re: Testosterone injections 2 times weekly

>

> Date: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 8:32 PM

>

> There's a lot of truth to this. I've been back to lifting

> weights for a

> few months now. Things have been going good with decent

> recovery

> afterwards, although after my wo last wed. I felt like i

> fried my

> adrenals. I've been really run down with hypoglycemia type

> symptoms

> since. I started a 1/2 tablet iodoral a few days prior

> under my docs

> direction. I feel this had something to do with my adrenal

> crash as my

> adrenals were shaky to begin with.

>

> I stopped the iodoral a few days ago but still feel like

> crap. Would

> taking isocort help bring back the adrenals?

>

>

>

> >

> > > From: gviceman77@... gviceman77@...

> > > Subject: Testosterone injections 2

> times weekly

> > >

> > > Cc: gviceman77@...

> > > Date: Friday, June 11, 2010, 10:29 PM

> > > I have been on Test injections for

> > > about 3.5 months; I started  at .5 cc

> > > and have been at 1 cc for about a month. HcG on

> the 5th and

> > > 6 day  500 IU.

> > >

> > > Total Testosterone is only to 374

> > > % free test is 4.17

> > > free test is at 156.

> > > PSA 1.0

> > >

> > >

> > > Estradiol was 60 about 6 weeks ago but I have

> been on

> > > Anastrozole .5 mg

> > > every other day;  labs last week Estradiol

> now

> > > at  28.

> > >

> > > My Dr. wants Testosterone level in the 700 to 900

> range

> > > and  wants me to do

> > >

> > > 300mg of testosterone weekly which is 

> 0.75cc on

> > > every  Monday and Thursday

> > > and HcG 500 IU on Tuesday and  Fridays.

> > >

> > > I read on this site that some guys use up their

> > > testosterone  quickly.

> > >

> > > I lift weights 3 times weekly, I have a very

> muscular

> > > build.  I do cardio

> > > as well and play intense racquetball.

> > >

> > > Any thought on this  regiment??

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Yes, I did the 4x saliva test as well as other cortisol blood & urine tests, but

the results aren't in yet.

Before I statred the iodoral, I wasn't feeling too bad. Somewhat dizzy at times

but my energy level was good. I was recovering from my workouts nicely as I am

very careful to keep the volume to the low side.

I'm quite certain the iodoral played a role in how I feel now. I just want

something to help my adrennals until I can get to the doc. The next appt. is not

for a while. I'd bet my paycheck that my adrenal tests are going to be wacked.

> > >

> > > > From: gviceman77@ gviceman77@

> > > > Subject: Testosterone injections 2

> > times weekly

> > > >

> > > > Cc: gviceman77@

> > > > Date: Friday, June 11, 2010, 10:29 PM

> > > > I have been on Test injections for

> > > > about 3.5 months; I started  at .5 cc

> > > > and have been at 1 cc for about a month. HcG on

> > the 5th and

> > > > 6 day  500 IU.

> > > >

> > > > Total Testosterone is only to 374

> > > > % free test is 4.17

> > > > free test is at 156.

> > > > PSA 1.0

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Estradiol was 60 about 6 weeks ago but I have

> > been on

> > > > Anastrozole .5 mg

> > > > every other day;  labs last week Estradiol

> > now

> > > > at  28.

> > > >

> > > > My Dr. wants Testosterone level in the 700 to 900

> > range

> > > > and  wants me to do

> > > >

> > > > 300mg of testosterone weekly which is 

> > 0.75cc on

> > > > every  Monday and Thursday

> > > > and HcG 500 IU on Tuesday and  Fridays.

> > > >

> > > > I read on this site that some guys use up their

> > > > testosterone  quickly.

> > > >

> > > > I lift weights 3 times weekly, I have a very

> > muscular

> > > > build.  I do cardio

> > > > as well and play intense racquetball.

> > > >

> > > > Any thought on this  regiment??

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Stop the Iodoral until you see your labs read this link.

http://www.healthnatura.com/art_iodoral_side_effects_what_to_do.htm

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: jim <virtuosa150@...>

> Subject: Re: Testosterone injections 2 times weekly

>

> Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 12:22 PM

> Yes, I did the 4x saliva test as well

> as other cortisol blood & urine tests, but the results

> aren't in yet.

>

> Before I statred the iodoral, I wasn't feeling too bad.

> Somewhat dizzy at times but my energy level was good. I was

> recovering from my workouts nicely as I am very careful to

> keep the volume to the low side.

> I'm quite certain the iodoral played a role in how I feel

> now. I just want something to help my adrennals until I can

> get to the doc. The next appt. is not for a while. I'd bet

> my paycheck that my adrenal tests are going to be wacked.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > From: gviceman77@ gviceman77@

> > > > > Subject: Testosterone

> injections 2

> > > times weekly

> > > > >

> > > > > Cc: gviceman77@

> > > > > Date: Friday, June 11, 2010, 10:29 PM

> > > > > I have been on Test injections for

> > > > > about 3.5 months; I started  at .5 cc

> > > > > and have been at 1 cc for about a

> month. HcG on

> > > the 5th and

> > > > > 6 day  500 IU.

> > > > >

> > > > > Total Testosterone is only to 374

> > > > > % free test is 4.17

> > > > > free test is at 156.

> > > > > PSA 1.0

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Estradiol was 60 about 6 weeks ago but

> I have

> > > been on

> > > > > Anastrozole .5 mg

> > > > > every other day;  labs last week

> Estradiol

> > > now

> > > > > at  28.

> > > > >

> > > > > My Dr. wants Testosterone level in the

> 700 to 900

> > > range

> > > > > and  wants me to do

> > > > >

> > > > > 300mg of testosterone weekly which

> is 

> > > 0.75cc on

> > > > > every  Monday and Thursday

> > > > > and HcG 500 IU on Tuesday and 

> Fridays.

> > > > >

> > > > > I read on this site that some guys use

> up their

> > > > > testosterone  quickly.

> > > > >

> > > > > I lift weights 3 times weekly, I have a

> very

> > > muscular

> > > > > build.  I do cardio

> > > > > as well and play intense racquetball.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any thought on this  regiment??

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have

> been

> > > removed]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

I stopped the iodoral a few days ago. Today I'm feeling a little better than

yesterday. I upped my vit.C and taking in more celtic salt.

That iodoral is some serious stuff. Folks that fool around with this without

knowing what they're doing can really mess themselves up.

> > > > >

> > > > > > From: gviceman77@ gviceman77@

> > > > > > Subject: Testosterone

> > injections 2

> > > > times weekly

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cc: gviceman77@

> > > > > > Date: Friday, June 11, 2010, 10:29 PM

> > > > > > I have been on Test injections for

> > > > > > about 3.5 months; I started  at .5 cc

> > > > > > and have been at 1 cc for about a

> > month. HcG on

> > > > the 5th and

> > > > > > 6 day  500 IU.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Total Testosterone is only to 374

> > > > > > % free test is 4.17

> > > > > > free test is at 156.

> > > > > > PSA 1.0

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Estradiol was 60 about 6 weeks ago but

> > I have

> > > > been on

> > > > > > Anastrozole .5 mg

> > > > > > every other day;  labs last week

> > Estradiol

> > > > now

> > > > > > at  28.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My Dr. wants Testosterone level in the

> > 700 to 900

> > > > range

> > > > > > and  wants me to do

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 300mg of testosterone weekly which

> > is 

> > > > 0.75cc on

> > > > > > every  Monday and Thursday

> > > > > > and HcG 500 IU on Tuesday and 

> > Fridays.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I read on this site that some guys use

> > up their

> > > > > > testosterone  quickly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I lift weights 3 times weekly, I have a

> > very

> > > > muscular

> > > > > > build.  I do cardio

> > > > > > as well and play intense racquetball.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any thought on this  regiment??

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have

> > been

> > > > removed]

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Yes this can happen if you don't need Iodine I have been on one 12.5 mg tablet

for some time now was doing 3 a day but I started detoxing things and felt like

crap. I don't take it for detoxing I take it to help my Thyroid.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: jim <virtuosa150@...>

> Subject: Re: Testosterone injections 2 times weekly

>

> Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 2:29 PM

> I stopped the iodoral a few days ago.

> Today I'm feeling a little better than yesterday. I upped my

> vit.C and taking in more celtic salt.

>

> That iodoral is some serious stuff. Folks that fool around

> with this without knowing what they're doing can really mess

> themselves up.

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > From: gviceman77@

> gviceman77@

> > > > > > > Subject:

> Testosterone

> > > injections 2

> > > > > times weekly

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cc: gviceman77@

> > > > > > > Date: Friday, June 11, 2010,

> 10:29 PM

> > > > > > > I have been on Test

> injections for

> > > > > > > about 3.5 months; I started 

> at .5 cc

> > > > > > > and have been at 1 cc for

> about a

> > > month. HcG on

> > > > > the 5th and

> > > > > > > 6 day  500 IU.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Total Testosterone is only to

> 374

> > > > > > > % free test is 4.17

> > > > > > > free test is at 156.

> > > > > > > PSA 1.0

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Estradiol was 60 about 6

> weeks ago but

> > > I have

> > > > > been on

> > > > > > > Anastrozole .5 mg

> > > > > > > every other day;  labs last

> week

> > > Estradiol

> > > > > now

> > > > > > > at  28.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My Dr. wants Testosterone

> level in the

> > > 700 to 900

> > > > > range

> > > > > > > and  wants me to do

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 300mg of testosterone weekly

> which

> > > is 

> > > > > 0.75cc on

> > > > > > > every  Monday and Thursday

> > > > > > > and HcG 500 IU on Tuesday

> and 

> > > Fridays.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I read on this site that some

> guys use

> > > up their

> > > > > > > testosterone  quickly.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I lift weights 3 times

> weekly, I have a

> > > very

> > > > > muscular

> > > > > > > build.  I do cardio

> > > > > > > as well and play intense

> racquetball.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Any thought on this 

> regiment??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this

> message have

> > > been

> > > > > removed]

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >