Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 And doctors have the cheek to tell us that we shouldn't believe what we read on the internet/support forums... Pah! in Kent > > Haha Bob, > > That link is hilarious. He fails to mention that 's is TOTAL adrenal failure. > > I also like the bit where he says: > > " Unproven remedies for so-called " adrenal fatigue " may leave you feeling sicker, while the real cause — such as depression or fibromyalgia — continues to take its toll. " > > Because of course they know the 'real' causes of depression and fibromyalgia! > > > > See what the Mayo Clinic Doctor Nippoldt says;- > > > > http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/adrenal-fatigue/AN01583 > > > > > > Bob > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 I know, I tried, but you have to join before you can contact anybody. Luv - sheila Hi Sheila, there is a 'contact me' button on her blog http://www.digitaljournal.com/user/360214 Subject: RE: Re: Adrenal fatigue Does anybody know how to get Dearing's email address. We need to find out from her where she got the information that WHO now accept adrenal fatigue as a diagnosis. She is described as a 'Digital Journalist' Luv - Sheila I agree Sheila. I can't find it now, but I found another forum that had a similar thread about WHO and adrenal fatigue. Turned out that nobody could find the direct WHO link on that forum either. P xo > > Doesn't appear to have filtered down to 'WHO' either, unless we can prove > this wrong and produce a link so we can all accept this as fact. > > Luv - Sheila No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2784 - Release Date: 04/01/10 18:32:00 Get a free e-mail account with Hotmail. Sign-up now. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2784 - Release Date: 04/02/10 18:32:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 > > See what the Mayo Clinic Doctor Nippoldt says;- > > > > http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/adrenal-fatigue/AN01583 I personally hate the terminology non-specific symptoms, when I find fatigue and body aches very specific, and have different forms of both fatigue and aches exist in my experience. I also think non-specific implies a mild problem that's not very crucial. There are also sympotoms like dizzyness, feeling woozy bending down and energy draining when standing in a queue which certainly is serious and none of this is mentioned. What are these unproven things that they refer to? Do they mean things like nutri adrenal extra? I do agree that I would far rather go to the likes of Dr P with this, than your traditional nutritionist though. Fiona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Yes, that's why we should tell such doctors that we only ever read what has been published in the medical journals and those papers that cite references to the research that show the medical and scientific evidence. What a blooming Crackpot Doctor Nippoldt is. Luv - Sheila And doctors have the cheek to tell us that we shouldn't believe what we read on the internet/support forums... Pah! in Kent > > > See what the Mayo Clinic Doctor Nippoldt says;- > > > > http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/adrenal-fatigue/AN01583 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 And doesn't he look smug! Hans > > Haha Bob, > > That link is hilarious. He fails to mention that 's is TOTAL adrenal failure. .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 …and so he should, after all, it's not everybody who dares to make such bold statements without any evidence whatsoever and get away with it. We should be writing to this guy and letting him know what we think - but then….would it make any difference? Luv - Sheila And doesn't he look smug! Hans > > Haha Bob, > > That link is hilarious. He fails to mention that 's is TOTAL adrenal failure. .... No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2784 - Release Date: 04/02/10 18:32:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Hi Bob - with your experience in research and knowing where to go, do you think you could track down where these authors are getting their information about WHO. I have typed in " 21st Century Disease " and " Adrenal Fatigue 21st Century Disease' into their search engine on their web site and cannot trace a thing. I would hate to think that one editor allowed publication of such a statement without first finding the true facts and then others just picking it up from there, when WHO never mentioned anything. Go on Bob - you can do it, if anybody can *grin*. I cannot even trace the email address of the journalist from the Daily Mail publication. I have, however, today written to Marche asking him to point me in the direction where I can source this information on the WHO web site. Will let you know if he responds. Luv - Sheila This may be the source but don't expect a reference to it from the STAR in Toronto. [The World Health Organization has just this year recognized a new syndrome, which they're calling " 21st century disease. " The technical name is adrenal fatigue, the result of the adrenal glands being overworked from producing excess quantities of cortisol during brief flashes of high stress] <><> In a way, I find it more disturbing that Royal Caribbean acted thoughtfully, after careful consideration. The only answer to catastrophe is to keep going, it seems. The only solution is to speed up through the turbulence, to try to push through until we arrive at a place of calm fluid motion. Maybe we'll survive the ride. Maybe not. Marche is a novelist and the culture columnist at Esquire Magazine. Go to marche.com. http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/article/754756--earthquakes-cruise-liners-and-the-age-of-precariousness WHO may have (in fact) begun to address these issues ~ as the MoD has recently offered £2m for treating soldiers with PTSD and other mental ill- health problems ( BBC News this evening 2nd April ) I would have thought the British military might have known something about this problem from the 1st World War when our troope were shot for cowardice if they got shell shock whilst the officers were just sent home on 'sick leave' for the same condition. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Hi Lou I knew someone would see the funny side of it...:-) ....that's whatI thought too best wishes Bob Add the Mayo Clinic to the list of candidates for a good lecture > > Haha Bob, > > That link is hilarious. He fails to mention that 's is TOTAL adrenal failure. > > I also like the bit where he says: > > " Unproven remedies for so-called " adrenal fatigue " may leave you feeling sicker, while the real cause — such as depression or fibromyalgia — continues to take its toll. " > > Because of course they know the 'real' causes of depression and fibromyalgia! > > > > See what the Mayo Clinic Doctor Nippoldt says;- > > > > http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/adrenal-fatigue/AN01583 > > > > > > Bob > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Hi Sheila, 'the pressure of facts on a closed mind is to shut it tighter' (misquote) thyroid treatment From: sheila@...Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 20:56:39 +0100Subject: RE: Re: Adrenal fatigue …and so he should, after all, it's not everybody who dares to make such bold statements without any evidence whatsoever and get away with it. We should be writing to this guy and letting him know what we think - but then….would it make any difference? Luv - Sheila And doesn't he look smug! Hans > > Haha Bob, > > That link is hilarious. He fails to mention that 's is TOTAL adrenal failure. .... No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2784 - Release Date: 04/02/10 18:32:00 Get a new e-mail account with Hotmail – Free. Sign-up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 Hi Sheila, I writing this post in support of the wonderful things you do on behalf of all hypo sufferers.I understand the frustration you must feel at the amount of negativity you receive from all these idiots that feel its ok to watch people suffer and do nothing to help because they are selfish individuals.But individuals they are and we "hypo's" are an ever growing "group" of strong minded fighters that refuse to lay down and give up.Despite our poor health,we still keep going and fight the good fight,because of people like you! Does writing to people to let them know how we feel make a difference? It sure does! It proves to them that we will not give up despite their negativity and are a force to be reckoned with! How irritating must it feel to think they spent years in education and you know more than they do! Poetic justice I think! Keep fighting the good fight,its working! Best wishes Sharon From: Sheila <sheila@...>Subject: RE: Re: Adrenal fatiguethyroid treatment Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 7:56 PM …and so he should, after all, it's not everybody who dares to make such bold statements without any evidence whatsoever and get away with it. We should be writing to this guy and letting him know what we think - but then….would it make any difference? Luv - Sheila And doesn't he look smug!Hans>> Haha Bob,> > That link is hilarious. He fails to mention that 's is TOTAL adrenal failure.... No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2784 - Release Date: 04/02/10 18:32:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Hi, I am from South Africa and have been diagnosed with secondary adrenal fatigue and currently doing 20mg (10/5/5) corvocot(cortef equivalent) per day. I am also taking T4/T3 for being hypothyroid. Only recently( 1month) after doing some research I decided to take DHEA (started low and now at 25mg/d) for symptoms of fatigue. The DHEA it seems has helped with the fatigue. My concern is my labs. Morning, midday, afternoon serum cortisol results and thyroid results are, Serum cortisol = 271/175/140 nmol/l still very low TSH = 0.46 miu/l FT4 = 14.5 pmol/l FT3 = 4.3 pmol/l DHEA-S prior to taking DHEA = 5.29 umol/l I still have fatigue symptoms, low libido etc. I'm afraid my endo will want to increase cortisol further, a path don't want to go down further suppressing ACTH ..After reading Chilln's info on pregnenolone or progesterone supplementation(muscle chatroom website) I will try and convince my doc opt for either of these. Has anyone used either of these prohormones and come of cortisol successful and what is the protocol? Also which is better? FYI, I was previously on TRT(test cyp) and my lab results were great, but still had symptoms of just not feeling well. Thanks Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 ps have you tried 's method of taking t3 early in the morning to help your adrenals? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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