Re: Bruce Question on symptoms

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Bruce,

I am sorry to tell you this and I say this all the time your Dr. us not up on

low Testosterone. Free Testosterone is only 1 - 2 % of your Total Testosterone

your TT levels are 255 very low making you feel sick. Take 2% of this and your

Free is in range but from nothing. If you TT was say 600 then 2 % would be a

lot more. You do need to find a Dr. up on low T of your not going to get the

right treatment.

My first Question would be why are you so low at 255 what is your Estradiol

levels how is your liver is your Iron to high the list is dam long. Even stress

of having low T will keep it low.

Read this cut and paste how Testosterone works in your body all your Free T is

telling me is your SHBG is not to high binding up what T you have when it's

bound up it's not working.

http://tinyurl.com/495n6a3

If you can't figure out why your Testostreone is low then yes fix your Thyroid

and go on TRT

Going on Androgel one needs to start with 4 pumps = 5 grams of Gel. One pump is

= to 1.25 grams doing to pumps is like doing nothing. The starting dose is 5

grams. You do need a better Dr.

http://www.androgel.com/

And to tell if this 5 gram starting dose is working get labs after 2 weeks or

you can end up lower then 255 when your bain sees the T in your blood it will

stop telling your testis to make that 255 and if 5 grams is not enough you end

up lower and feeling worse.

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-----------------------DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION-----------------------

• Recommended starting dose: 5 g for adult males, applied topically once

daily (2.1).

• Apply to clean, dry, intact skin of shoulders and upper arms and/or

abdomen. Do NOT apply AndroGel to the genitals (2.1).

• Dose adjustment for adult males: If serum testosterone level is below the

normal range, adjust dose from 5 g to 7.5 g and from 7.5 g to 10 g (2.3).

----------------------DOSAGE FORMS AND STRENGTHS----------------------

AndroGel (testosterone gel) 1% for topical use is available as:

• 2 x 75 g pumps (each pump dispenses 60 metered 1.25 g doses) (3)

• 2.5 g packet or 5 g packet (3)

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Now that I'm certain you're all experts in Testosterone production (and there

will be a test at the end — I'm serious!), I'd like to address one more

important issue that will come up later in the article with regard to

Testosterone in the body. When Testosterone is converted from cholesterol in the

leydig cells of the testis, it's released into the blood stream where it embarks

on an anabolic adventure.

However, when in the blood, 60% of the big T released from the boys down below

is bound up by a protein known as SHBG, or sex-hormone binding globulin. SHBG is

produced and released by the liver. The important point is that the Testosterone

bound to SHBG is biologically inactive and this is why there's an important

distinction between total T and bioavailable T.

Total T represents all the Testosterone in the blood, while bioavailable T

represents the non SHBG bound Testosterone. There are other proteins in the

blood that bind Testosterone, too, but their binding is rather weak, so this T

is bioavailable and these proteins can still enter the cells to produce and

effect all the things we're interested in.

As I said, bioavailable T represents the Testosterone that is not SHBG bound,

while free T represents the Testosterone that's not bound to any blood proteins

at all. It's tricky, I know, but I hope that it's now evident that although only

about 2% of the T in blood is technically considered free T, there is a larger

percentage of T (about 40% or so) that is bioavailable because it's only weakly

bound to non SHBG blood proteins.

I'm taking you through this complex path for good reason. When trying to

increase T levels in the body, one must attempt to not only increase total T.

More importantly, one must attempt to increase bioavailable T. If you increase

total T, but you increase SHBG to a larger extent, they you will actually have

less bioavailable T for muscle building purposes!

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: brucergoldberg <brucergoldberg@...>

> Subject: Bruce Question on symptoms

>

> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 6:51 PM

> I went to my Dr. today.  She

> said that while my T count was low at 255, she said the free

> count was in range.  She said that I should try to get

> my thyroid under control first.  However, I have

> reallyreally bad nausea and i cant tell what this is

> from.   Could it be from the low

> testosterone?

>

> so here are my questions:

>

> 1.  Does Low T cause nausea?

> 2.  Do you guys feel androgel is an effective method?

> 3.  Can I start androgel with 2 pumps?

>

> thank you

>

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