Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Mike I am on 30 mgs a day of Cortef HC, I do HGH and just tested my Cortisol fasting levels after taking my 10 mg. dose of Cortef my Dr. has me do labs this way so he can tell if I am on to much HC and shutting down my ACTH levels even more. He feels as long as my levels come back over 5 I am OK most of the time I am at 12 my first test before going on HC was 9 my last test come in on HGH at 15 so I am good. I don't think going on HGH when your treating Adrenals lowers your levels. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Rouse <michael.hugh.rouse@...> > Subject: HGH and cortisol > > Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 10:38 AM > Hey Group, > > I have a questions about HGH's effect on cortisol. I > am currently a mess - > my doc suspects that my pituitary gland isn't functioning > properly. I had a > couple of head injuries while playing rugby in college and > she suspects that > I damaged my pituitary from those. I am > currently on testosterone gel, T3, > and hydrocortisone. My doctor wants to put me on HGH > (omnitrope) but I have > read that it lowers cortisol levels and mine are in the > tank already. So my > questions are: What should I do about this? Should I > go on the HGH or wait > until I can get my adrenals more stable? Can I take > both at the same time? > Any info is greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > > -- > Mike > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Hi Phil Thanks for the response. How do you dose your cortef? Thanks, Mike On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:46 AM, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>wrote: > > > Mike I am on 30 mgs a day of Cortef HC, I do HGH and just tested my > Cortisol fasting levels after taking my 10 mg. dose of Cortef my Dr. has me > do labs this way so he can tell if I am on to much HC and shutting down my > ACTH levels even more. He feels as long as my levels come back over 5 I am > OK most of the time I am at 12 my first test before going on HC was 9 my > last test come in on HGH at 15 so I am good. I don't think going on HGH when > your treating Adrenals lowers your levels. > Co-Moderator > Phil > > > > > > From: Rouse <michael.hugh.rouse@...<michael.hugh.rouse%40gmail.com> > > > > Subject: HGH and cortisol > > < %40> > > Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 10:38 AM > > > Hey Group, > > > > I have a questions about HGH's effect on cortisol. I > > am currently a mess - > > my doc suspects that my pituitary gland isn't functioning > > properly. I had a > > couple of head injuries while playing rugby in college and > > she suspects that > > I damaged my pituitary from those. I am > > currently on testosterone gel, T3, > > and hydrocortisone. My doctor wants to put me on HGH > > (omnitrope) but I have > > read that it lowers cortisol levels and mine are in the > > tank already. So my > > questions are: What should I do about this? Should I > > go on the HGH or wait > > until I can get my adrenals more stable? Can I take > > both at the same time? > > Any info is greatly appreciated. > > > > Regards, > > > > -- > > Mike > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 I wake at 5am and take 10mgs then I eat at 8:30am and take 5mgs then at 1pm for lunch I take 10mgs and with dinner at 6pm I take 5 mgs. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > From: Rouse <michael.hugh.rouse@...<michael.hugh.rouse%40gmail.com> > > > > > > Subject: HGH and cortisol > > > > < %40> > > > Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 10:38 AM > > > > > Hey Group, > > > > > > I have a questions about HGH's effect on > cortisol. I > > > am currently a mess - > > > my doc suspects that my pituitary gland isn't > functioning > > > properly. I had a > > > couple of head injuries while playing rugby in > college and > > > she suspects that > > > I damaged my pituitary from > those. I am > > > currently on testosterone gel, T3, > > > and hydrocortisone. My doctor wants to put > me on HGH > > > (omnitrope) but I have > > > read that it lowers cortisol levels and mine are > in the > > > tank already. So my > > > questions are: What should I do about this? > Should I > > > go on the HGH or wait > > > until I can get my adrenals more stable? > Can I take > > > both at the same time? > > > Any info is greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > -- > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 And you sleep ok on this schedule? Thanks, Mike On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:16 AM, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>wrote: > > > I wake at 5am and take 10mgs then I eat at 8:30am and take 5mgs then at 1pm > for lunch I take 10mgs and with dinner at 6pm I take 5 mgs. > > Co-Moderator > Phil > > > > > > > > > From: Rouse <michael.hugh.rouse@...<michael.hugh.rouse%40gmail.com> > <michael.hugh.rouse%40gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > Subject: HGH and cortisol > > > > < %40> > > < %40> > > > > > Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 10:38 AM > > > > > > > Hey Group, > > > > > > > > I have a questions about HGH's effect on > > cortisol. I > > > > am currently a mess - > > > > my doc suspects that my pituitary gland isn't > > functioning > > > > properly. I had a > > > > couple of head injuries while playing rugby in > > college and > > > > she suspects that > > > > I damaged my pituitary from > > those. I am > > > > currently on testosterone gel, T3, > > > > and hydrocortisone. My doctor wants to put > > me on HGH > > > > (omnitrope) but I have > > > > read that it lowers cortisol levels and mine are > > in the > > > > tank already. So my > > > > questions are: What should I do about this? > > Should I > > > > go on the HGH or wait > > > > until I can get my adrenals more stable? > > Can I take > > > > both at the same time? > > > > Any info is greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Mike, My Pit was damaged in an accident too and I am on GH and HC too. I take 10 in the morning 10 in the afternoon and another 5 before bed. I CAN NOT sleep unless I take this at bedtime the few times I forget I will awake within an hour with terrible legs twitches.... Some people are like this and others CAN NOT take any HC in the evenings or it will keep them awake.... I did not start on the GH until I had been on the HC for about 6 weeks...at first I had to dose every 3-4 hours because my body was so depleted and then gradually I found myslef able to dose just three times a day... On a side note my husband who is the reason I am on this forum has issues with his gonads, thyroid and adrenals could NOT stablized his adrenals until he started on Testosterone...it made a huge difference....So much so that eh had to almost stop the HC becasue he was geting too much... It is all very individual and you have to learn to read YOUR BODY AND SYMPTOMS...Because we are all so different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Reading this post has got me thinking about my particular case. I don't want to hijack your thread. I started getting low T symptoms about 2005. Started with ED. In 2004 I got my face smashed really bad on concrete. I wonder if this could have been the start of my problems. Is it possible to be both primary which I'm sure I am and secondary as well? I have to bring this up with my doc next appt. I've had alot of face and head trauma over the years. How light of a hit does it take to mess up the pituitary? > > Hey Group, > > I have a questions about HGH's effect on cortisol. I am currently a mess - > my doc suspects that my pituitary gland isn't functioning properly. I had a > couple of head injuries while playing rugby in college and she suspects that > I damaged my pituitary from those. I am currently on testosterone gel, T3, > and hydrocortisone. My doctor wants to put me on HGH (omnitrope) but I have > read that it lowers cortisol levels and mine are in the tank already. So my > questions are: What should I do about this? Should I go on the HGH or wait > until I can get my adrenals more stable? Can I take both at the same time? > Any info is greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > > -- > Mike > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Yes I sleep good for a time when I first went on HGH my sugar was going low at night so I only took 7.5 mgs in the morning and added the 2.5 at bedtime this helped keep my sugar levels up. I only needed to do this for 2 weeks. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > > > From: Rouse <michael.hugh.rouse@...<michael.hugh.rouse%40gmail.com> > > <michael.hugh.rouse%40gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: HGH and > cortisol > > > > > > < %40> > > > < %40> > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 10:38 > AM > > > > > > > > > Hey Group, > > > > > > > > > > I have a questions about HGH's effect > on > > > cortisol. I > > > > > am currently a mess - > > > > > my doc suspects that my pituitary gland > isn't > > > functioning > > > > > properly. I had a > > > > > couple of head injuries while playing > rugby in > > > college and > > > > > she suspects that > > > > > I damaged my pituitary from > > > those. I am > > > > > currently on testosterone gel, T3, > > > > > and hydrocortisone. My doctor > wants to put > > > me on HGH > > > > > (omnitrope) but I have > > > > > read that it lowers cortisol levels and > mine are > > > in the > > > > > tank already. So my > > > > > questions are: What should I do about > this? > > > Should I > > > > > go on the HGH or wait > > > > > until I can get my adrenals more > stable? > > > Can I take > > > > > both at the same time? > > > > > Any info is greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have > been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 I've been on T cypionate for 2 months now. My nut is the size of a grape. I tried hcg with no luck. I only was on it for about 1 month though. I may not have given it long enough. This is something we'll look into further down the road, after I get my T & E2 were they should be. I used to have a pretty good pair. Then i lost one to cancer and now the other one is almost nonexistant. The only thing worse is getting my schlong caught in a meat grinder. > > > > > > Hey Group, > > > > > > I have a questions about HGH's effect on > > cortisol. I am currently a mess - > > > my doc suspects that my pituitary gland isn't > > functioning properly. I had a > > > couple of head injuries while playing rugby in college > > and she suspects that > > > I damaged my pituitary from those. I > > am currently on testosterone gel, T3, > > > and hydrocortisone. My doctor wants to put me on > > HGH (omnitrope) but I have > > > read that it lowers cortisol levels and mine are in > > the tank already. So my > > > questions are: What should I do about this? > > Should I go on the HGH or wait > > > until I can get my adrenals more stable? Can I > > take both at the same time? > > > Any info is greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > -- > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Reading Phil's history is also how I was able to get diagnosed correctly. I live in California and am a patient at The Pituitary Center at Stanford. My doctor told me that they began to see a lot of pituitary issues from head injuries on the Vets retruning form combat. But even with all their " expertise " my doctor does not " believe in Armour...which he mentions at each visit....fortunately for me I have a wonderful Endo that treats me with everyting I need...so you just have to be stubborn and fight to find the right care....and it ain't easy. Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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