Guest guest Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Alcohol tends to send me into crises. I just avoid it. It is not worth it. Alcohol Two Christmas parties, and two pressure situations to drink.The pay - off ?Feeling like crap for 2 - 3 weeks, fast heart on the night, muscles fatigue walking round.It's just not worth it, is it ? Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 EVERYTHING IN MODERATION. IF YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT ALCOHOL IS NOT FOR YOU, JUST TELL OTHERS SO SORRY, I AM UNABLE TO DRINK TO CERTAIN MEDS I TAKE. OR WHATEVER EXCUSE IS LOGICAL FOR YOU TO GIVE. DON'T WORRY ABOUT TELLING THEM NO.Joyce <joyce_phillips4@...> wrote: No. have one drink, not hard liquer. Enjoy your life and your friends. Don't over do anything when you have fibro Joyce Alcohol Two Christmas parties, and two pressure situations to drink.The pay - off ?Feeling like crap for 2 - 3 weeks, fast heart on the night, muscles fatigue walking round.It's just not worth it, is it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 As I posted earlier....it differs from person to person. Some people can have a drink or two with SSRI's and other's cannot. I don't advise drinking but I don't advise *not* drinking either. It's an individual choice and trust me, you *will* know if you shouldn't or can't drink with the Lex. Barbara Alcohol I know the label says not to have alcohol, but how strict is that? None at all? Ever? What do you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but how strict is that? > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, combing alchol with it has never gave me any side effects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 It has been my experience that it truly depends on your level of depression. I have not had any problems with the combination of alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever depression the alcohol will enhance that. > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but how strict is that? > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, combing alchol with it has > never gave me any side effects > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two is not really smart. Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty liver can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. Colleen jscarlato <jscarlato@...> wrote: It has been my experience that it truly depends on your level of depression. I have not had any problems with the combination of alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever depression the alcohol will enhance that. > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but how strict is that? > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, combing alchol with it has > never gave me any side effects > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Many of the AD's are hard on the liver all by themselves. While a drink or two here and there probably won't hurt (much) one must know all the risks associated to make an informed decision. Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two is not really smart. Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty liver can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. Colleen jscarlato <jscarlato@...> wrote: It has been my experience that it truly depends on your level of depression. I have not had any problems with the combination of alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever depression the alcohol will enhance that. > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but how strict is that? > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, combing alchol with it has > never gave me any side effects > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Well last night I had a glass of wine with dinner and did not feel any adverse reaction. I'm not a big drinker but I do like the occasional glass with dinner. --- Barbara <bjarrett@...> wrote: > Many of the AD's are hard on the liver all by > themselves. While a drink or two here and there > probably won't hurt (much) one must know all the > risks associated to make an informed decision. > > Barbara > > > Re: Re: Alcohol > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two is > not really smart. > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty liver > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > Colleen > > > jscarlato <jscarlato@...> wrote: > It has been my experience that it truly depends > on your level of > depression. I have not had any problems with the > combination of > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > depression the alcohol > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > how strict is that? > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > combing alchol with it > has > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Liver damage is silent until the later stages of liver failure. However, I don't believe that a glass of wine here or there is going to make that big a difference one way or the other as long as you don't already have underlying liver problems. But that's just MO. Some people will say you can't drink at all and others like me take a more moderate approach. That doesn't negate the issues with these drugs and how hard they can be on the liver. Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two is > not really smart. > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty liver > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > Colleen > > > jscarlato <jscarlato@...> wrote: > It has been my experience that it truly depends > on your level of > depression. I have not had any problems with the > combination of > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > depression the alcohol > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > how strict is that? > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > combing alchol with it > has > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 I'm not sure if I mentioned (I don't drink at all either) but when I went on the cruise I did drink a little and it was fine. I didn't have any trouble. plus! I didn't drink too much witch is sort of a problem with me. Elven Gilthanis <gilthanis_elven@...> wrote: Well last night I had a glass of wine with dinner and did not feel any adverse reaction. I'm not a big drinker but I do like the occasional glass with dinner. --- Barbara <bjarrett@...> wrote: > Many of the AD's are hard on the liver all by > themselves. While a drink or two here and there > probably won't hurt (much) one must know all the > risks associated to make an informed decision. > > Barbara > > > Re: Re: Alcohol > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two is > not really smart. > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty liver > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > Colleen > > > jscarlato <jscarlato@...> wrote: > It has been my experience that it truly depends > on your level of > depression. I have not had any problems with the > combination of > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > depression the alcohol > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > how strict is that? > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > combing alchol with it > has > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 I wondered how that turned out! I'm glad to hear that! :-D Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two is > not really smart. > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty liver > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > Colleen > > > jscarlato <jscarlato@...> wrote: > It has been my experience that it truly depends > on your level of > depression. I have not had any problems with the > combination of > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > depression the alcohol > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > how strict is that? > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > combing alchol with it > has > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 I honestly have not had any problems with drinking alcohol. I am sure it is not good for me, but I have not had any immediate adverse reactions. Elven Gilthanis <gilthanis_elven@...> wrote: Well last night I had a glass of wine with dinner and did not feel any adverse reaction. I'm not a big drinker but I do like the occasional glass with dinner. --- Barbara <bjarrett@...> wrote: > Many of the AD's are hard on the liver all by > themselves. While a drink or two here and there > probably won't hurt (much) one must know all the > risks associated to make an informed decision. > > Barbara > > > Re: Re: Alcohol > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two is > not really smart. > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty liver > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > Colleen > > > jscarlato <jscarlato@...> wrote: > It has been my experience that it truly depends > on your level of > depression. I have not had any problems with the > combination of > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > depression the alcohol > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > how strict is that? > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > combing alchol with it > has > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 You don't usually feel bad from liver disease until it turns into cirrhosis, and then it's called end stage liver disease. Colleen kim allred <kimallred3@...> wrote: I'm not sure if I mentioned (I don't drink at all either) but when I went on the cruise I did drink a little and it was fine. I didn't have any trouble. plus! I didn't drink too much witch is sort of a problem with me. Elven Gilthanis wrote: Well last night I had a glass of wine with dinner and did not feel any adverse reaction. I'm not a big drinker but I do like the occasional glass with dinner. --- Barbara wrote: > Many of the AD's are hard on the liver all by > themselves. While a drink or two here and there > probably won't hurt (much) one must know all the > risks associated to make an informed decision. > > Barbara > > > Re: Re: Alcohol > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two is > not really smart. > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty liver > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > Colleen > > > jscarlato wrote: > It has been my experience that it truly depends > on your level of > depression. I have not had any problems with the > combination of > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > depression the alcohol > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > how strict is that? > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > combing alchol with it > has > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Well, like I said,. a lot of people have fatty liver without knowing it. Those people should never drink at all. I have hepatitis C and fatty liver, and now my liver is in a state of mild cirrhosis, which can only get worse if I don't get rid of the virus and lose the fatty liver. I've seen people die of liver disease from hepatitis C. Not a pretty sight. I'd already be dead if I had been a drinker as well. Colleen Barbara <bjarrett@...> wrote: Liver damage is silent until the later stages of liver failure. However, I don't believe that a glass of wine here or there is going to make that big a difference one way or the other as long as you don't already have underlying liver problems. But that's just MO. Some people will say you can't drink at all and others like me take a more moderate approach. That doesn't negate the issues with these drugs and how hard they can be on the liver. Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two is > not really smart. > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty liver > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > Colleen > > > jscarlato wrote: > It has been my experience that it truly depends > on your level of > depression. I have not had any problems with the > combination of > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > depression the alcohol > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > how strict is that? > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > combing alchol with it > has > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 I had a liver screen when my Dr wanted to put me on this medication and it was fine. --- MsTigerHawk <tigerhawksoars@...> wrote: > Well, like I said,. a lot of people have fatty liver > without knowing it. Those people should never drink > at all. I have hepatitis C and fatty liver, and now > my liver is in a state of mild cirrhosis, which can > only get worse if I don't get rid of the virus and > lose the fatty liver. I've seen people die of liver > disease from hepatitis C. Not a pretty sight. I'd > already be dead if I had been a drinker as well. > > Colleen > > > Barbara <bjarrett@...> wrote: > Liver damage is silent until the later stages of > liver failure. However, I don't believe that a glass > of wine here or there is going to make that big a > difference one way or the other as long as you don't > already have underlying liver problems. But that's > just MO. Some people will say you can't drink at all > and others like me take a more moderate approach. > > That doesn't negate the issues with these drugs and > how hard they can be on the liver. > > Barbara > > > Re: Re: Alcohol > > > > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two > is > > not really smart. > > > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty > liver > > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > > > Colleen > > > > > > jscarlato wrote: > > It has been my experience that it truly depends > > on your level of > > depression. I have not had any problems with the > > combination of > > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > > depression the alcohol > > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > > how strict is that? > > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > > combing alchol with it > > has > > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 It is rarely immediate, unless you combine alcohol and aspirin. People have died of acute liver failure from that combination. Colleen Moser <ashmo27510@...> wrote: I honestly have not had any problems with drinking alcohol. I am sure it is not good for me, but I have not had any immediate adverse reactions. Elven Gilthanis wrote: Well last night I had a glass of wine with dinner and did not feel any adverse reaction. I'm not a big drinker but I do like the occasional glass with dinner. --- Barbara wrote: > Many of the AD's are hard on the liver all by > themselves. While a drink or two here and there > probably won't hurt (much) one must know all the > risks associated to make an informed decision. > > Barbara > > > Re: Re: Alcohol > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two is > not really smart. > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty liver > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > Colleen > > > jscarlato wrote: > It has been my experience that it truly depends > on your level of > depression. I have not had any problems with the > combination of > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > depression the alcohol > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > how strict is that? > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > combing alchol with it > has > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 What did the liver screen entail? Colleen Elven Gilthanis <gilthanis_elven@...> wrote: I had a liver screen when my Dr wanted to put me on this medication and it was fine. --- MsTigerHawk wrote: > Well, like I said,. a lot of people have fatty liver > without knowing it. Those people should never drink > at all. I have hepatitis C and fatty liver, and now > my liver is in a state of mild cirrhosis, which can > only get worse if I don't get rid of the virus and > lose the fatty liver. I've seen people die of liver > disease from hepatitis C. Not a pretty sight. I'd > already be dead if I had been a drinker as well. > > Colleen > > > Barbara wrote: > Liver damage is silent until the later stages of > liver failure. However, I don't believe that a glass > of wine here or there is going to make that big a > difference one way or the other as long as you don't > already have underlying liver problems. But that's > just MO. Some people will say you can't drink at all > and others like me take a more moderate approach. > > That doesn't negate the issues with these drugs and > how hard they can be on the liver. > > Barbara > > > Re: Re: Alcohol > > > > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two > is > > not really smart. > > > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty > liver > > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > > > Colleen > > > > > > jscarlato wrote: > > It has been my experience that it truly depends > > on your level of > > depression. I have not had any problems with the > > combination of > > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > > depression the alcohol > > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > > how strict is that? > > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > > combing alchol with it > > has > > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Right. But there can be changes from taking these kinds of meds. Has he done any further tests since you started the Lex? Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol > > > > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two > is > > not really smart. > > > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty > liver > > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > > > Colleen > > > > > > jscarlato wrote: > > It has been my experience that it truly depends > > on your level of > > depression. I have not had any problems with the > > combination of > > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > > depression the alcohol > > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > > how strict is that? > > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > > combing alchol with it > > has > > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 The only real way to tell the condition of the liver is through a liver biopsy, but they won't do that unless there is other evidence of liver disease. The thing is, you can have stage three liver disease and your liver enzymes can still be at normal levels. On the other hand, there's people who have no liver disease and have highly elevated enzymes. Many things can elevated them, including medications, even over the counter. Also alcohol. A liver ultrasound can see the results of cirrhosis, but it can't see the cirrhosis (scarring) itself. Colleen Barbara <bjarrett@...> wrote: Right. But there can be changes from taking these kinds of meds. Has he done any further tests since you started the Lex? Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol > > > > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two > is > > not really smart. > > > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty > liver > > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > > > Colleen > > > > > > jscarlato wrote: > > It has been my experience that it truly depends > > on your level of > > depression. I have not had any problems with the > > combination of > > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > > depression the alcohol > > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > > how strict is that? > > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > > combing alchol with it > > has > > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Has anyone found that alcohol helps with anxiety? Its cheaper than lexpro MsTigerHawk <tigerhawksoars@...> wrote: The only real way to tell the condition of the liver is through a liver biopsy, but they won't do that unless there is other evidence of liver disease. The thing is, you can have stage three liver disease and your liver enzymes can still be at normal levels. On the other hand, there's people who have no liver disease and have highly elevated enzymes. Many things can elevated them, including medications, even over the counter. Also alcohol. A liver ultrasound can see the results of cirrhosis, but it can't see the cirrhosis (scarring) itself. Colleen Barbara <bjarrett@...> wrote: Right. But there can be changes from taking these kinds of meds. Has he done any further tests since you started the Lex? Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol > > > > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two > is > > not really smart. > > > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty > liver > > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > > > Colleen > > > > > > jscarlato wrote: > > It has been my experience that it truly depends > > on your level of > > depression. I have not had any problems with the > > combination of > > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > > depression the alcohol > > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > > how strict is that? > > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > > combing alchol with it > > has > > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 That would be a really bad road to go down. Colleen mike jones <mike229892@...> wrote: Has anyone found that alcohol helps with anxiety? Its cheaper than lexpro MsTigerHawk wrote: The only real way to tell the condition of the liver is through a liver biopsy, but they won't do that unless there is other evidence of liver disease. The thing is, you can have stage three liver disease and your liver enzymes can still be at normal levels. On the other hand, there's people who have no liver disease and have highly elevated enzymes. Many things can elevated them, including medications, even over the counter. Also alcohol. A liver ultrasound can see the results of cirrhosis, but it can't see the cirrhosis (scarring) itself. Colleen Barbara wrote: Right. But there can be changes from taking these kinds of meds. Has he done any further tests since you started the Lex? Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol > > > > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two > is > > not really smart. > > > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty > liver > > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > > > Colleen > > > > > > jscarlato wrote: > > It has been my experience that it truly depends > > on your level of > > depression. I have not had any problems with the > > combination of > > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > > depression the alcohol > > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > > how strict is that? > > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > > combing alchol with it > > has > > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 OMG! Mike YES! but when I had anxiety in my 20s? it turned me into an alcoholic!!! lots of people drink for just that reason. It seems to me that the older we get the worse it gets and that's why so many people need " a drink " to relax. My sister in law was a horrible alcoholic! and I told my brother over and over to get her on xanax but her doctor wouldn't give it to her? I knew that the stresses of her life made her want to drink to calm down. Anxiety (i feel) is when you get to the stress level that your mind cant handle it alone, your body takes over and releases a chemical maybe...adrenaline? I don't know. But I do know thta alcohol will make it worse when you arent drinking?....anybody?...any thoughts?... mike jones <mike229892@...> wrote: Has anyone found that alcohol helps with anxiety? Its cheaper than lexpro MsTigerHawk <tigerhawksoars@...> wrote: The only real way to tell the condition of the liver is through a liver biopsy, but they won't do that unless there is other evidence of liver disease. The thing is, you can have stage three liver disease and your liver enzymes can still be at normal levels. On the other hand, there's people who have no liver disease and have highly elevated enzymes. Many things can elevated them, including medications, even over the counter. Also alcohol. A liver ultrasound can see the results of cirrhosis, but it can't see the cirrhosis (scarring) itself. Colleen Barbara <bjarrett@...> wrote: Right. But there can be changes from taking these kinds of meds. Has he done any further tests since you started the Lex? Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol > > > > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two > is > > not really smart. > > > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty > liver > > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > > > Colleen > > > > > > jscarlato wrote: > > It has been my experience that it truly depends > > on your level of > > depression. I have not had any problems with the > > combination of > > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > > depression the alcohol > > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > > how strict is that? > > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > > combing alchol with it > > has > > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Many many people with anxiety and depression self medicate with alcohol and other drugs. Never a good idea cause in in the long run it only makes the condition(s) they're attempting to medicate for worse. Of course people often don't really realise what they're doing. That they're self medicating. But it *is* very common. Alcohol is and can be used in a number of ways that are not bad. Say a drink in the evening to help one sleep. Notice I said *a* drink. Not an entire bottle of one's choice of drink. ;-) And not every single night either. To me that would indicate a problem in itself if one *needed* to do that every single night or suffer from insomnia. Doctors advocate a certain amount of alcohol to be healthy. There have been studies done on that very thing. I should say healthier. There is a big difference between a drink now and again and needing that drink every day just to cope. For people with anxiety or depression it's an easy trap to fall into. If the Lex isn't doing all it should be then apparently it's not the right drug. When the drug is doing what it should the extra anxiety should not be there any longer. Normal anxiety, such as what one feels when they know they must speak in public shouldn't be stifled. *Unless* it's pathological. There is a difference. Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol > > > > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two > is > > not really smart. > > > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty > liver > > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > > > Colleen > > > > > > jscarlato wrote: > > It has been my experience that it truly depends > > on your level of > > depression. I have not had any problems with the > > combination of > > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > > depression the alcohol > > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > > how strict is that? > > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > > combing alchol with it > > has > > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 I have fatty liver and the doc didn't say anything about not drinking alcohol to me. I don't know much about fatty liver, scary. ~Crystal Well, like I said,. a lot of people have fatty liver without knowing it. Those people should never drink at all. I have hepatitis C and fatty liver, and now my liver is in a state of mild cirrhosis, which can only get worse if I don't get rid of the virus and lose the fatty liver. I've seen people die of liver disease from hepatitis C. Not a pretty sight. I'd already be dead if I had been a drinker as well. Colleen Barbara <bjarrett@...> wrote: Liver damage is silent until the later stages of liver failure. However, I don't believe that a glass of wine here or there is going to make that big a difference one way or the other as long as you don't already have underlying liver problems. But that's just MO. Some people will say you can't drink at all and others like me take a more moderate approach. That doesn't negate the issues with these drugs and how hard they can be on the liver. Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two is > not really smart. > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty liver > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > Colleen > > > jscarlato wrote: > It has been my experience that it truly depends > on your level of > depression. I have not had any problems with the > combination of > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > depression the alcohol > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > how strict is that? > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > combing alchol with it > has > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Yes, and I'm sure so many people don't realize ( like me at 20) what the heck is going on in their brain a drink is so easy to stop an anxiety attack that if you have anxiety and aren't sure what it is but drinking makes it go away? I went to one doctor in my 20s that told me " there is nothing wrong with you " I could not believe it!!! I felt like I was going to die!!! so when a " doctor " told me nothing was wrong with me? I thought I was losing my fricken mind and drinking did stop it and turned me into an alcoholic! Barbara <bjarrett@...> wrote: Many many people with anxiety and depression self medicate with alcohol and other drugs. Never a good idea cause in in the long run it only makes the condition(s) they're attempting to medicate for worse. Of course people often don't really realise what they're doing. That they're self medicating. But it *is* very common. Alcohol is and can be used in a number of ways that are not bad. Say a drink in the evening to help one sleep. Notice I said *a* drink. Not an entire bottle of one's choice of drink. ;-) And not every single night either. To me that would indicate a problem in itself if one *needed* to do that every single night or suffer from insomnia. Doctors advocate a certain amount of alcohol to be healthy. There have been studies done on that very thing. I should say healthier. There is a big difference between a drink now and again and needing that drink every day just to cope. For people with anxiety or depression it's an easy trap to fall into. If the Lex isn't doing all it should be then apparently it's not the right drug. When the drug is doing what it should the extra anxiety should not be there any longer. Normal anxiety, such as what one feels when they know they must speak in public shouldn't be stifled. *Unless* it's pathological. There is a difference. Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol > > > > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two > is > > not really smart. > > > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty > liver > > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > > > Colleen > > > > > > jscarlato wrote: > > It has been my experience that it truly depends > > on your level of > > depression. I have not had any problems with the > > combination of > > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > > depression the alcohol > > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > > how strict is that? > > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > > combing alchol with it > > has > > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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