Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 my anxiety only started 6 months ago - I havent tried alcohol for it yet - but its tempting - its probably more natural than meds - its certainly been around a lot longer and probably no more addictive than anything else .......... --------------------------------- Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with for Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 True,, but its the DRUNK part that isnt very good, not to mention the hangover mike jones <mike229892@...> wrote: my anxiety only started 6 months ago - I havent tried alcohol for it yet - but its tempting - its probably more natural than meds - its certainly been around a lot longer and probably no more addictive than anything else .......... --------------------------------- Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with for Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 I have a general rule for myself that helps from over duing the beer thing,Never drink before six in the evening.It works so long as you don,t slam four the first hour. mike jones <mike229892@...> wrote: my anxiety only started 6 months ago - I havent tried alcohol for it yet - but its tempting - its probably more natural than meds - its certainly been around a lot longer and probably no more addictive than anything else .......... --------------------------------- Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with for Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 good point kim - had a good day today - maybe I will give the lex a bit longer !!! --------------------------------- Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with for Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Not to mention the harm it does your liver. No one wants to be 50 years old, give or take, and find out they have cirrhosis. Do a search for cirrhotic liver, or cirrhosis, under images. Believe me, you don't want your liver to look like that. Colleen kim allred <kimallred3@...> wrote: True,, but its the DRUNK part that isnt very good, not to mention the hangover mike jones wrote: my anxiety only started 6 months ago - I havent tried alcohol for it yet - but its tempting - its probably more natural than meds - its certainly been around a lot longer and probably no more addictive than anything else .......... --------------------------------- Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with for Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Sigh.... mike jones <mike229892@...> wrote: my anxiety only started 6 months ago - I havent tried alcohol for it yet - but its tempting - its probably more natural than meds - its certainly been around a lot longer and probably no more addictive than anything else .......... --------------------------------- Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with for Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Fatty liver can lead to NASH, which often leads to cirrhosis. It's best not to drink at all if you have any kind of liver disease. Colleen Crystal <cmccracken@...> wrote: I have fatty liver and the doc didn't say anything about not drinking alcohol to me. I don't know much about fatty liver, scary. ~Crystal Well, like I said,. a lot of people have fatty liver without knowing it. Those people should never drink at all. I have hepatitis C and fatty liver, and now my liver is in a state of mild cirrhosis, which can only get worse if I don't get rid of the virus and lose the fatty liver. I've seen people die of liver disease from hepatitis C. Not a pretty sight. I'd already be dead if I had been a drinker as well. Colleen Barbara wrote: Liver damage is silent until the later stages of liver failure. However, I don't believe that a glass of wine here or there is going to make that big a difference one way or the other as long as you don't already have underlying liver problems. But that's just MO. Some people will say you can't drink at all and others like me take a more moderate approach. That doesn't negate the issues with these drugs and how hard they can be on the liver. Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two is > not really smart. > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty liver > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > Colleen > > > jscarlato wrote: > It has been my experience that it truly depends > on your level of > depression. I have not had any problems with the > combination of > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > depression the alcohol > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > how strict is that? > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > combing alchol with it > has > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Gee - I didn't know this topic would take off like this. She ran a LIPID study on me and my results were fine. --- MsTigerHawk <tigerhawksoars@...> wrote: > What did the liver screen entail? > > Colleen > > > Elven Gilthanis <gilthanis_elven@...> wrote: > I had a liver screen when my Dr wanted to put me > on > this medication and it was fine. > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 The liver is always a concern when taking drugs such as this. I'm glad to see it brought up. It's one of those 'silent' things we don't discuss much until someone says something directly related to it. But it is a primary issue. Some of these drugs instructions will come right out and say your doctor should do a panel before starting the drug and continue to monitor the liver throughout treatment. It's something every person who takes these kinds of drugs needs to be aware of. Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol Gee - I didn't know this topic would take off like this. She ran a LIPID study on me and my results were fine. --- MsTigerHawk <tigerhawksoars@...> wrote: > What did the liver screen entail? > > Colleen > > > Elven Gilthanis <gilthanis_elven@...> wrote: > I had a liver screen when my Dr wanted to put me > on > this medication and it was fine. > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 The effect of alcohol on the liver is probably better documented than the effect of lexpro and other meds - alcohol has been around a lot longer - for most people it takes quite a lot of serious abuse to destroy your liver - who knows with new meds ...................... Barbara <bjarrett@...> wrote: The liver is always a concern when taking drugs such as this. I'm glad to see it brought up. It's one of those 'silent' things we don't discuss much until someone says something directly related to it. But it is a primary issue. Some of these drugs instructions will come right out and say your doctor should do a panel before starting the drug and continue to monitor the liver throughout treatment. It's something every person who takes these kinds of drugs needs to be aware of. Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol Gee - I didn't know this topic would take off like this. She ran a LIPID study on me and my results were fine. --- MsTigerHawk <tigerhawksoars@...> wrote: > What did the liver screen entail? > > Colleen > > > Elven Gilthanis <gilthanis_elven@...> wrote: > I had a liver screen when my Dr wanted to put me > on > this medication and it was fine. > __________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 For those who have hepatitis, drinking alcohol can kill you. You'll get cirrhosis a lot quicker if you drink that if you don't drink. I personally know many who have died of complications from hepatitis C. And most hepatologists and gastroenterologists won't even start you on the grueling treatment regimen for hepatitis C unless you start a good antidepressant first, since treatment can turn people suicidal or homicidal. It causes depression in most people. Colleen mike jones <mike229892@...> wrote: The effect of alcohol on the liver is probably better documented than the effect of lexpro and other meds - alcohol has been around a lot longer - for most people it takes quite a lot of serious abuse to destroy your liver - who knows with new meds ...................... Barbara wrote: The liver is always a concern when taking drugs such as this. I'm glad to see it brought up. It's one of those 'silent' things we don't discuss much until someone says something directly related to it. But it is a primary issue. Some of these drugs instructions will come right out and say your doctor should do a panel before starting the drug and continue to monitor the liver throughout treatment. It's something every person who takes these kinds of drugs needs to be aware of. Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol Gee - I didn't know this topic would take off like this. She ran a LIPID study on me and my results were fine. --- MsTigerHawk wrote: > What did the liver screen entail? > > Colleen > > > Elven Gilthanis wrote: > I had a liver screen when my Dr wanted to put me > on > this medication and it was fine. > __________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Oh boy. I wonder why my doctor didn't get further into what could happen. Something more to worry about. I'm obese and too depressed even with Lexapro to do much about it... ~Crystal Fatty liver can lead to NASH, which often leads to cirrhosis. It's best not to drink at all if you have any kind of liver disease. Colleen Crystal <cmccracken@...> wrote: I have fatty liver and the doc didn't say anything about not drinking alcohol to me. I don't know much about fatty liver, scary. ~Crystal Well, like I said,. a lot of people have fatty liver without knowing it. Those people should never drink at all. I have hepatitis C and fatty liver, and now my liver is in a state of mild cirrhosis, which can only get worse if I don't get rid of the virus and lose the fatty liver. I've seen people die of liver disease from hepatitis C. Not a pretty sight. I'd already be dead if I had been a drinker as well. Colleen Barbara wrote: Liver damage is silent until the later stages of liver failure. However, I don't believe that a glass of wine here or there is going to make that big a difference one way or the other as long as you don't already have underlying liver problems. But that's just MO. Some people will say you can't drink at all and others like me take a more moderate approach. That doesn't negate the issues with these drugs and how hard they can be on the liver. Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two is > not really smart. > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty liver > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > Colleen > > > jscarlato wrote: > It has been my experience that it truly depends > on your level of > depression. I have not had any problems with the > combination of > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > depression the alcohol > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > how strict is that? > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > combing alchol with it > has > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 hepatitis c ???????????? whats that got to do with anything lol talking of anti-depressants I started on 10mg a day for severe anxiety and some associated depression - after an initial increase in anxiety my symptoms improved after a few weeks my doc suggested increasing the dose to 20mg - after a few weeks I realised that my anxiety and my depression were actually worse and cut back to 10mg and my symptoms improved again I know everyone butI wonder how many people may be actually experiencing worse depression by being on too high a dose of AD's MsTigerHawk <tigerhawksoars@...> wrote: For those who have hepatitis, drinking alcohol can kill you. You'll get cirrhosis a lot quicker if you drink that if you don't drink. I personally know many who have died of complications from hepatitis C. And most hepatologists and gastroenterologists won't even start you on the grueling treatment regimen for hepatitis C unless you start a good antidepressant first, since treatment can turn people suicidal or homicidal. It causes depression in most people. Colleen mike jones <mike229892@...> wrote: The effect of alcohol on the liver is probably better documented than the effect of lexpro and other meds - alcohol has been around a lot longer - for most people it takes quite a lot of serious abuse to destroy your liver - who knows with new meds ...................... Barbara wrote: The liver is always a concern when taking drugs such as this. I'm glad to see it brought up. It's one of those 'silent' things we don't discuss much until someone says something directly related to it. But it is a primary issue. Some of these drugs instructions will come right out and say your doctor should do a panel before starting the drug and continue to monitor the liver throughout treatment. It's something every person who takes these kinds of drugs needs to be aware of. Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol Gee - I didn't know this topic would take off like this. She ran a LIPID study on me and my results were fine. --- MsTigerHawk wrote: > What did the liver screen entail? > > Colleen > > > Elven Gilthanis wrote: > I had a liver screen when my Dr wanted to put me > on > this medication and it was fine. > __________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Hi Crystal Sorry to hear you are going through a difficult time - I know from experience that the meds arent the total answer for me exercise if you can do it definitely helps - walking, swimming , yoga, pilates ..... self hypnosis has helped me too - especially my insomnia - have you tried any weight loss self hypnosis cd's? worth a try !! relaxation tapes are good too Crystal <cmccracken@...> wrote: Oh boy. I wonder why my doctor didn't get further into what could happen. Something more to worry about. I'm obese and too depressed even with Lexapro to do much about it... ~Crystal Fatty liver can lead to NASH, which often leads to cirrhosis. It's best not to drink at all if you have any kind of liver disease. Colleen Crystal <cmccracken@...> wrote: I have fatty liver and the doc didn't say anything about not drinking alcohol to me. I don't know much about fatty liver, scary. ~Crystal Well, like I said,. a lot of people have fatty liver without knowing it. Those people should never drink at all. I have hepatitis C and fatty liver, and now my liver is in a state of mild cirrhosis, which can only get worse if I don't get rid of the virus and lose the fatty liver. I've seen people die of liver disease from hepatitis C. Not a pretty sight. I'd already be dead if I had been a drinker as well. Colleen Barbara wrote: Liver damage is silent until the later stages of liver failure. However, I don't believe that a glass of wine here or there is going to make that big a difference one way or the other as long as you don't already have underlying liver problems. But that's just MO. Some people will say you can't drink at all and others like me take a more moderate approach. That doesn't negate the issues with these drugs and how hard they can be on the liver. Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two is > not really smart. > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty liver > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > Colleen > > > jscarlato wrote: > It has been my experience that it truly depends > on your level of > depression. I have not had any problems with the > combination of > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > depression the alcohol > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > how strict is that? > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > combing alchol with it > has > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Colleen does. She's posted about it before but it was before you joined I think... Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol Gee - I didn't know this topic would take off like this. She ran a LIPID study on me and my results were fine. --- MsTigerHawk wrote: > What did the liver screen entail? > > Colleen > > > Elven Gilthanis wrote: > I had a liver screen when my Dr wanted to put me > on > this medication and it was fine. > __________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Hi again Tammy - I will be interested to hear how you get on - I have wondered about thryoid problems myself - definitely worth getting it checked however from what I have read most anxiety seems to be a learned self - perpetuating cycle - the brain gets set to a higher sensitivity to anxiety - its not so much a disease as a psychological condition meds can help but the only real cure is to re-train our brain to a lower level of sensitivity to anxiety - thats where meditation and self hypnosis tapes can help this site is quiet useful - let me know if you would like to try it- I could send you the files http://www.thelindenmethod.co.uk/ Tammy Lemons <tlemons@...> wrote: I am not taking any anti depressant. Did took Lexapro but gave me a bad anxiety. Then took Seroquel one time, gave me high b/p and heartrate up. Still have alittle anxiety, not as bad, took Activan. I got appt on Tuesday for MRI and others from Neurology and then Wednesday to see Thyroid Dr. Cause my thyroid was on borderline on first day I was in hospital and then 2nd day it was high. It might be thyroid acting up on me.. who know.. Then on Thursday I will see my neurology dr. He told me we going to find out why I am having anxiety.. to make nothing serious. I know my heart is fine, no blockage. I had lost 30 lb so far, no caffifine, no sugar nothing.. So self hyponsis, never heard of it, but I will look that up.. Re: Re: Alcohol > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two is > not really smart. > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty liver > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > Colleen > > > jscarlato wrote: > It has been my experience that it truly depends > on your level of > depression. I have not had any problems with the > combination of > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > depression the alcohol > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > how strict is that? > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > combing alchol with it > has > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 I am not taking any anti depressant. Did took Lexapro but gave me a bad anxiety. Then took Seroquel one time, gave me high b/p and heartrate up. Still have alittle anxiety, not as bad, took Activan. I got appt on Tuesday for MRI and others from Neurology and then Wednesday to see Thyroid Dr. Cause my thyroid was on borderline on first day I was in hospital and then 2nd day it was high. It might be thyroid acting up on me.. who know.. Then on Thursday I will see my neurology dr. He told me we going to find out why I am having anxiety.. to make nothing serious. I know my heart is fine, no blockage. I had lost 30 lb so far, no caffifine, no sugar nothing.. So self hyponsis, never heard of it, but I will look that up.. Re: Re: Alcohol > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two is > not really smart. > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty liver > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > Colleen > > > jscarlato wrote: > It has been my experience that it truly depends > on your level of > depression. I have not had any problems with the > combination of > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > depression the alcohol > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > how strict is that? > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > combing alchol with it > has > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 >> however from what I have read most anxiety seems to be a learned self - perpetuating cycle - the brain gets set to a higher sensitivity to anxiety - its not so much a disease as a psychological condition << If that were so than the drugs we take to control anxiety, the SSRI's and such, would be of no help at all. They act on brain chemicals. Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two is > not really smart. > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty liver > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > Colleen > > > jscarlato wrote: > It has been my experience that it truly depends > on your level of > depression. I have not had any problems with the > combination of > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > depression the alcohol > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > how strict is that? > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > combing alchol with it > has > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Well, I have it and they put me on Lexapro. Between 4 and 6 million Americans have it. Many of them don't even know it. Colleen mike jones <mike229892@...> wrote: hepatitis c ???????????? whats that got to do with anything lol ************************************************************* http://groups..com/group/LiverCirrhosis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Research shows depression causes low serotonin and /or dopamine levels -no-one is sure of the exact mechanism - artificially increasing these chemicals helps alleviate the symptoms but its not a cure. If there was a magic pill no-one would be anxious or depressed would they? The first line treatment in the UK for both anxiety and depression is now counselling - often with medication. Maybe just sitting back and taking a few tablets works for some people - most people I know who are coping with or have recovered from these conditions say it takes a lot of hard work - thats certainly been my experience Some doctors do peddle the line that its just a case of finding the right magic pill - it makes their job a lot easier. And of course the drug companies do - but even they admit the need for other therapies too Please take time to read this. http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealthinformation/mentalhealthproblems/depression\ /antidepressants.aspx --------------------------------- Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with for Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Hi Colleen - are you talking about hep c or anxiety or depression? Lex certainly helped me - got me to a point where I am able to start working on my anxiety using relaxation, self hypnosis, pilates, and plenty of exercise - I am planning to start yoga classes next !! Anxiety can be a viscious circle - the unpleasant symptoms we experience lead to us becoming even more anxious - our sub-conscious gets programmed to fear things our conscious mind knows are not a threat. I just dont believe there is a magic pill yet - maybe one day ........... my father was on Proxac for a while - the drugs companies said it was the answer - I am not going to even tell you the effect it had on him - it was very scary.......... MsTigerHawk <tigerhawksoars@...> wrote: Well, I have it and they put me on Lexapro. Between 4 and 6 million Americans have it. Many of them don't even know it. Colleen mike jones <mike229892@...> wrote: hepatitis c ???????????? whats that got to do with anything lol ************************************************************* http://groups..com/group/LiverCirrhosis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Many general practitioners and family practice doctors don't know that much about liver disease. Some of them never even heard of NASH, and an amazing number of them know nothing about hepatitis C. Indeed, they don't even ask relevent questions to see if you might be at risk for it. Colleen Crystal <cmccracken@...> wrote: Oh boy. I wonder why my doctor didn't get further into what could happen. Something more to worry about. I'm obese and too depressed even with Lexapro to do much about it... ~Crystal Fatty liver can lead to NASH, which often leads to cirrhosis. It's best not to drink at all if you have any kind of liver disease. Colleen Crystal wrote: I have fatty liver and the doc didn't say anything about not drinking alcohol to me. I don't know much about fatty liver, scary. ~Crystal Well, like I said,. a lot of people have fatty liver without knowing it. Those people should never drink at all. I have hepatitis C and fatty liver, and now my liver is in a state of mild cirrhosis, which can only get worse if I don't get rid of the virus and lose the fatty liver. I've seen people die of liver disease from hepatitis C. Not a pretty sight. I'd already be dead if I had been a drinker as well. Colleen Barbara wrote: Liver damage is silent until the later stages of liver failure. However, I don't believe that a glass of wine here or there is going to make that big a difference one way or the other as long as you don't already have underlying liver problems. But that's just MO. Some people will say you can't drink at all and others like me take a more moderate approach. That doesn't negate the issues with these drugs and how hard they can be on the liver. Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two is > not really smart. > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty liver > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > Colleen > > > jscarlato wrote: > It has been my experience that it truly depends > on your level of > depression. I have not had any problems with the > combination of > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > depression the alcohol > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > how strict is that? > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > combing alchol with it > has > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 I don't have anxiety, although I did when I was 23. I had terrible panic attacks. I learned to float through them. I also found out I had hypoglycemia, so I changed my diet and they went away. They found that hypoglycemia can be a forerunner of diabetes. I'm now prediabetic. I started Lexapro for two reasons. First, I couldn't stop crying. I had a nasty supervisor at the time, and my 18 year old son kept upsetting me to no end. I was also about to start on treatment for hepatitis C. Thus the Lexapro, which made me feel much better. I'm still on it at 10 mg per day, which is the only dose I've ever taken since I've been on it. Any chronic illness, especially if it involves pain, can cause depression. Also, the combination of interferon and ribavirin (HCV treatment) can cause severe depression. Colleen mike jones <mike229892@...> wrote: Hi Colleen - are you talking about hep c or anxiety or depression? Lex certainly helped me - got me to a point where I am able to start working on my anxiety using relaxation, self hypnosis, pilates, and plenty of exercise - I am planning to start yoga classes next !! Anxiety can be a viscious circle - the unpleasant symptoms we experience lead to us becoming even more anxious - our sub-conscious gets programmed to fear things our conscious mind knows are not a threat. I just dont believe there is a magic pill yet - maybe one day ........... my father was on Proxac for a while - the drugs companies said it was the answer - I am not going to even tell you the effect it had on him - it was very scary.......... MsTigerHawk wrote: Well, I have it and they put me on Lexapro. Between 4 and 6 million Americans have it. Many of them don't even know it. Colleen mike jones wrote: hepatitis c ???????????? whats that got to do with anything lol ************************************************************* http://groups..com/group/LiverCirrhosis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 The best thing I've tried is Spring Forest Qigong. Colleen mike jones <mike229892@...> wrote: Hi Crystal Sorry to hear you are going through a difficult time - I know from experience that the meds arent the total answer for me exercise if you can do it definitely helps - walking, swimming , yoga, pilates ..... self hypnosis has helped me too - especially my insomnia - have you tried any weight loss self hypnosis cd's? worth a try !! relaxation tapes are good too Crystal wrote: Oh boy. I wonder why my doctor didn't get further into what could happen. Something more to worry about. I'm obese and too depressed even with Lexapro to do much about it... ~Crystal Fatty liver can lead to NASH, which often leads to cirrhosis. It's best not to drink at all if you have any kind of liver disease. Colleen Crystal wrote: I have fatty liver and the doc didn't say anything about not drinking alcohol to me. I don't know much about fatty liver, scary. ~Crystal Well, like I said,. a lot of people have fatty liver without knowing it. Those people should never drink at all. I have hepatitis C and fatty liver, and now my liver is in a state of mild cirrhosis, which can only get worse if I don't get rid of the virus and lose the fatty liver. I've seen people die of liver disease from hepatitis C. Not a pretty sight. I'd already be dead if I had been a drinker as well. Colleen Barbara wrote: Liver damage is silent until the later stages of liver failure. However, I don't believe that a glass of wine here or there is going to make that big a difference one way or the other as long as you don't already have underlying liver problems. But that's just MO. Some people will say you can't drink at all and others like me take a more moderate approach. That doesn't negate the issues with these drugs and how hard they can be on the liver. Barbara Re: Re: Alcohol > > > Don't forget that alcohol is very bad for the > liver. So are prescription drugs. To mix the two is > not really smart. > > Also, about 50% of Americans are walking around > with fatty liver and don't even know it. Fatty liver > can turn to NASH which can cause cirrhosis. > > Colleen > > > jscarlato wrote: > It has been my experience that it truly depends > on your level of > depression. I have not had any problems with the > combination of > alcohol and lex, however if you suffer sever > depression the alcohol > will enhance that. > > > > > > > > I know the label says not to have alcohol, but > how strict is that? > > > None at all? Ever? What do you do? > > > > > Im on celexa basicly the same thing as lex, > combing alchol with it > has > > never gave me any side effects > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Hi Colleen, Sorry, didnt realise your medical history - thought you had anxiety. I wonder if hyoglycemia or thyroid problems might be causing my anxiety - a refelexologist said I had signs of a thyroid condition. I am seeing a new doctor in a few weeks and will ask for tests although many doctors seem to be dubious about these conditions. I have general " free floating " anxiety which I think was triggered by my asthma. My health is pretty good now but I cant stop being anxious about my breathing - very much a psychological problem although lexapro has helped a lot. As you say depression generally has a much more physical basis - lexapro certainly seems to be one of the best meds around for treating it and I am glad you have had good results. Again apologies for jumping to conclusions - we have enough to cope with dealing with the general ignorance of people about our conditions. Mike MsTigerHawk <tigerhawksoars@...> wrote: I don't have anxiety, although I did when I was 23. I had terrible panic attacks. I learned to float through them. I also found out I had hypoglycemia, so I changed my diet and they went away. They found that hypoglycemia can be a forerunner of diabetes. I'm now prediabetic. I started Lexapro for two reasons. First, I couldn't stop crying. I had a nasty supervisor at the time, and my 18 year old son kept upsetting me to no end. I was also about to start on treatment for hepatitis C. Thus the Lexapro, which made me feel much better. I'm still on it at 10 mg per day, which is the only dose I've ever taken since I've been on it. Any chronic illness, especially if it involves pain, can cause depression. Also, the combination of interferon and ribavirin (HCV treatment) can cause severe depression. Colleen mike jones <mike229892@...> wrote: Hi Colleen - are you talking about hep c or anxiety or depression? Lex certainly helped me - got me to a point where I am able to start working on my anxiety using relaxation, self hypnosis, pilates, and plenty of exercise - I am planning to start yoga classes next !! Anxiety can be a viscious circle - the unpleasant symptoms we experience lead to us becoming even more anxious - our sub-conscious gets programmed to fear things our conscious mind knows are not a threat. I just dont believe there is a magic pill yet - maybe one day ........... my father was on Proxac for a while - the drugs companies said it was the answer - I am not going to even tell you the effect it had on him - it was very scary.......... MsTigerHawk wrote: Well, I have it and they put me on Lexapro. Between 4 and 6 million Americans have it. Many of them don't even know it. Colleen mike jones wrote: hepatitis c ???????????? whats that got to do with anything lol ************************************************************* http://groups..com/group/LiverCirrhosis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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