Guest guest Posted November 30, 1999 Report Share Posted November 30, 1999 Hi Dina, for how long you you've been taking copper? do you feel better now that your blood test are within normal range? what other things you did? copper > > Hi , > > Just read your reply about copper. I have been taking 6 mg of copper and > now my blood test are in the normal range. When should you consider > cutting > back to 3mg of copper. Do you go by your blood work or your body symptoms > or after a certain amount of time at being in the normal range. I am not > sure on how to judge this. Thanks! Dina > > ______________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 1999 Report Share Posted December 2, 1999 In a message dated 11/30/99 3:51:36 PM !!!First Boot!!!, dsmosna@... writes: << Hi , Just read your reply about copper. I have been taking 6 mg of copper and now my blood test are in the normal range. When should you consider cutting back to 3mg of copper. Do you go by your blood work or your body symptoms or after a certain amount of time at being in the normal range. I am not sure on how to judge this. Thanks! Dina >> Hi Dina and Everyone, I'm not exactly sure how to judge this either. I took 6-8 mgs of copper a day for about a year and have been taking about 2.5 mgs for the last couple of months. The reason I lowered it was that I was gaining more weight than I wanted to and my testosterone seemed low (less athletic and sexual endurance). By lowering the copper (to 2.5 mgs.) and increasing the zinc (to 30-50 mg per day) I have reversed those trends. Whether manipulation of the zinc/copper ratio would have similar effects in women is something I don't know. Nutrition books say that women need 2-3 mg of copper a day, but who knows if that applies to women who have had hyperT. It may be that it will take a year or more of supplementing 6 mgs to correct the copper deficiency. Or if there is some other heavy metal toxicity, such as cadmium or mercury, which the copper is helping alleviate, then the copper supplementation may have to extend until this problem is corrected. At this point there are so many unknowns, that it seems best to go by how you feel and from blood tests. I don't think there will ever be any hard and fast rule to determine how much copper you'll need to take and for how long. From what I've read, it's possible that some people may have a genetic diminished ability to absorb and utilize copper and the extra supplementation might be necessary for life. Once the hyper symptoms have abated, I think it's important to watch a few health criteria: weight (an excessive gain might suggest that you're taking too much copper), energy level (a lower energy level might suggest to decrease copper), and edema (it's possible that too much copper will cause edema). The question about edema is something I don't know about, but I feel that it's important to watch for it. There is a good chance that Graves' disease is the result of more deficiencies than just copper. I've been doing some research that indicates that other mineral deficiencies are involved in the autoimmune aspect of Graves'. If this proves accurate, then it's possible that copper alone won't completely resolve the autoimmune aspect and that excessive copper supplementation (and too little zinc) may just cause the Graves' to swing over into Hashimoto's thyroiditis (hypoT). Edema, in particular, pretibial myxedema (an edemic swelling in front of the shin bone) is sometimes associated with both Graves' and Hashimoto's (as is eye involvement). Therefore it's important to look for these subtle clues in regard to weight, energy, and edema as indications that the copper/zinc ratio needs to be altered. I don't want anyone to become afraid of taking copper because of the chance that some of these negative things might happen. As far as we've seen, most hypers who've taken copper find that it makes a tremendous improvement in their lives. Also, I'm not at all certain that the negative things that might be associated with excessive copper will happen. What I want to stress is that taking copper alone is not the complete answer (many other nutrients seem to be necessary) and that constant vigilance to your body and symptoms is necessary. I have repeatedly stressed that I believe that there are some unknown minerals found in trace mineral supplements that are also essential in correcting Graves' and other thyroid diseases. It's possible that identifying and correcting these other trace mineral deficiencies (by taking them in higher amounts than are found in the trace mineral supplements) will really correct the problem and make it unnecessary to be constantly vigilant about the zinc/copper ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2000 Report Share Posted September 18, 2000 I'm the one that is newly diagnosed with Grave's and was former asthmatic. Do ya'll take copper like recommended on s site? My doctors told me no herbs except the msm. thanks Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2000 Report Share Posted September 18, 2000 Those of you that take copper. Did you take it with your thyroid and heart medicines? I want to take it but don't want to feel worse..thanks Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2000 Report Share Posted September 18, 2000 Kim, copper will help you, but what's important is your copper/zinc balance. It's the imbalances that cause symptoms. Generally, in hyperthyroidism, your zinc is too high and your copper is too low. Normally, you want a zinc:copper ratio of 8:1 like 25 mg zinc and 3 mg copper. But in GD, you want to correct deficiencies so you want a ratio of 3:1 zinc to copper. Like 30 mg zinc to 10 mg copper. When Kari had problems a few months ago, it was because she was taking a multiple vitamin that had too high of a zinc/copper ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2001 Report Share Posted January 5, 2001 In a message dated 1/3/01 5:48:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, Lolaebola1@... writes: << What is a therapeutic dose? Will Copper Gluconate tabs help or does it have to come from food sources? I have found these tabs at GNC 2 mg per tab to be taken one daily. >> Hi Teri, A therapeutic dose of copper is 2.5 to 7.5 mgs per day. The source can either be from a supplement or from foods. However, getting 5 mgs a day from foods can be very difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2001 Report Share Posted August 14, 2001 Arlene, not all supplements make nutrients like copper unavailable to be absorbed by the body. One, in particular, is in such a state when ingested that all the nutrients are immediately absorbable. Donna http://trak.to/lifewww.reliv.comTake control of your health! Re: copper I have two questions, but have been unable to find an answer to one of them,plus I am on information overload with all the new things I need to find outabout GD.Question: What are the FOOD sources of copper, in which copper is availableto be absorbed by the body, rather than supplements?Another question: I think I have seen somewhere that aspirin is not a goodidea for people with GD. I have so much pain, and don't use pain killers.Have tried bromaines or however you spell them (pineapple, mango extracts)and they are somewhat helpful, but not like EC aspirin. Can someone explainwhy aspirin is not good for me, in layman's terms?Arlene in CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2001 Report Share Posted August 14, 2001 I have two questions, but have been unable to find an answer to one of them, plus I am on information overload with all the new things I need to find out about GD. Question: What are the FOOD sources of copper, in which copper is available to be absorbed by the body, rather than supplements? Another question: I think I have seen somewhere that aspirin is not a good idea for people with GD. I have so much pain, and don't use pain killers. Have tried bromaines or however you spell them (pineapple, mango extracts) and they are somewhat helpful, but not like EC aspirin. Can someone explain why aspirin is not good for me, in layman's terms? Arlene in CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2001 Report Share Posted August 14, 2001 Arlene, Aspirin, in high doses, causes increased thyroxine production, which makes you more hyperthyroid. In small amounts, though, it can have an opposite effect, making a daily aspirin fine. It's the high amounts prescribed in arthritis that are bad. Someone once posted a list all about copper content in foods. You can hopefully find this in the archives. I remember sunflower seeds being high up on the list. Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 In a message dated 6/28/2003 10:37:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, maryhilchie@... writes: << Right now it I wear a copper bracelet, or a 'gold' necklace (old so the gold plating is almost gone), I get the green copper oxide ring on my body. >> The green is the oxide layer (probably cupric oxide) from the copper contacting the oxygen in the air and the water in the air and on your body. If you went up and rubbed yourself on the statue of liberty, it would rub off on you too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 I replied to this post before. You can get too much copper and it has some nasty toxic side effects. I knew that copper could cause hair loss, but I never heard of it causing gray hair. Copper is found in may things us O's can eat: Salmon, broccoli, nuts, seeds, green leafies and more. I don't suppliment this one because it is easy to get if you are eating right. I am doing some personal research, though, on the colloidal mineral suppliment that this group has talked about and recommended. And I am working on getting the " Dead Doctor's Don't Lie " book. I thought this website was interesting: http://www.copperinfo.com/health/deficiencies.shtml Take care, Coryn Copper Hi all, I have a question (below), about the following note : >Gray hair is a copper deficiency. Go get yourself some colloidal minerals >with copper in it ASAP. Copper deficiency is no good as it also puts you >at >risk of aneurism. > >I would get yourself the tape " Dead Doctors Don't Lie " - probably can get >it >from your HFS and listen listen listen. He is an amazing speaker and it >will blow your mind. It's put in a very easy to listen to way, also. > >The reversing of grey hair can take some time (think of how long it takes >to >renew all the hair on your head) and that is AFTER you've met the copper >needs of your body. My question is this. Right now it I wear a copper bracelet, or a 'gold' necklace (old so the gold plating is almost gone), I get the green copper oxide ring on my body. I think that means my body it too acid??? But, will I also absorb some of this copper into my system??? My hair is grayer than I would like but I am almost 60 (yuck!!). My son's hair is grayer than mine, however my ex's family all had early gray hair. I can take more copper, and keep wearing copper and he will also if I suggest it to him. What do you all think about this?? from Burlington, Canada Hilchie 'Be Well and Prosper' Nikken Independent Wellness Consultant http://www.5pillars.com/maryhilchie _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 The Dead Doctors Don't lie isn't a book, it's a tape play. Re: Copper I replied to this post before. You can get too much copper and it has some nasty toxic side effects. I knew that copper could cause hair loss, but I never heard of it causing gray hair. Copper is found in may things us O's can eat: Salmon, broccoli, nuts, seeds, green leafies and more. I don't suppliment this one because it is easy to get if you are eating right. I am doing some personal research, though, on the colloidal mineral suppliment that this group has talked about and recommended. And I am working on getting the " Dead Doctor's Don't Lie " book. I thought this website was interesting: http://www.copperinfo.com/health/deficiencies.shtml Take care, Coryn Copper Hi all, I have a question (below), about the following note : >Gray hair is a copper deficiency. Go get yourself some colloidal minerals >with copper in it ASAP. Copper deficiency is no good as it also puts you >at >risk of aneurism. > >I would get yourself the tape " Dead Doctors Don't Lie " - probably can get >it >from your HFS and listen listen listen. He is an amazing speaker and it >will blow your mind. It's put in a very easy to listen to way, also. > >The reversing of grey hair can take some time (think of how long it takes >to >renew all the hair on your head) and that is AFTER you've met the copper >needs of your body. My question is this. Right now it I wear a copper bracelet, or a 'gold' necklace (old so the gold plating is almost gone), I get the green copper oxide ring on my body. I think that means my body it too acid??? But, will I also absorb some of this copper into my system??? My hair is grayer than I would like but I am almost 60 (yuck!!). My son's hair is grayer than mine, however my ex's family all had early gray hair. I can take more copper, and keep wearing copper and he will also if I suggest it to him. What do you all think about this?? from Burlington, Canada Hilchie 'Be Well and Prosper' Nikken Independent Wellness Consultant http://www.5pillars.com/maryhilchie _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 Thanks for clearing that up for me! Coryn Copper Hi all, I have a question (below), about the following note : >Gray hair is a copper deficiency. Go get yourself some colloidal minerals >with copper in it ASAP. Copper deficiency is no good as it also puts you >at >risk of aneurism. > >I would get yourself the tape " Dead Doctors Don't Lie " - probably can get >it >from your HFS and listen listen listen. He is an amazing speaker and it >will blow your mind. It's put in a very easy to listen to way, also. > >The reversing of grey hair can take some time (think of how long it takes >to >renew all the hair on your head) and that is AFTER you've met the copper >needs of your body. My question is this. Right now it I wear a copper bracelet, or a 'gold' necklace (old so the gold plating is almost gone), I get the green copper oxide ring on my body. I think that means my body it too acid??? But, will I also absorb some of this copper into my system??? My hair is grayer than I would like but I am almost 60 (yuck!!). My son's hair is grayer than mine, however my ex's family all had early gray hair. I can take more copper, and keep wearing copper and he will also if I suggest it to him. What do you all think about this?? from Burlington, Canada Hilchie 'Be Well and Prosper' Nikken Independent Wellness Consultant http://www.5pillars.com/maryhilchie _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 It also comes as a book Re: Copper I replied to this post before. You can get too much copper and it has some nasty toxic side effects. I knew that copper could cause hair loss, but I never heard of it causing gray hair. Copper is found in may things us O's can eat: Salmon, broccoli, nuts, seeds, green leafies and more. I don't suppliment this one because it is easy to get if you are eating right. I am doing some personal research, though, on the colloidal mineral suppliment that this group has talked about and recommended. And I am working on getting the " Dead Doctor's Don't Lie " book. I thought this website was interesting: http://www.copperinfo.com/health/deficiencies.shtml Take care, Coryn Copper Hi all, I have a question (below), about the following note : >Gray hair is a copper deficiency. Go get yourself some colloidal minerals >with copper in it ASAP. Copper deficiency is no good as it also puts you >at >risk of aneurism. > >I would get yourself the tape " Dead Doctors Don't Lie " - probably can get >it >from your HFS and listen listen listen. He is an amazing speaker and it >will blow your mind. It's put in a very easy to listen to way, also. > >The reversing of grey hair can take some time (think of how long it takes >to >renew all the hair on your head) and that is AFTER you've met the copper >needs of your body. My question is this. Right now it I wear a copper bracelet, or a 'gold' necklace (old so the gold plating is almost gone), I get the green copper oxide ring on my body. I think that means my body it too acid??? But, will I also absorb some of this copper into my system??? My hair is grayer than I would like but I am almost 60 (yuck!!). My son's hair is grayer than mine, however my ex's family all had early gray hair. I can take more copper, and keep wearing copper and he will also if I suggest it to him. What do you all think about this?? from Burlington, Canada Hilchie 'Be Well and Prosper' Nikken Independent Wellness Consultant http://www.5pillars.com/maryhilchie _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 In a message dated 7/10/2003 10:56:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jk@... writes: << The Dead Doctors Don't lie isn't a book, it's a tape play. >> They've got a video on Amazon.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 >I am EHS (Electrohypersensitive) and heavy metal/amalgam poisoned >also. I am heavily copper- besides the mercury-poisoning, and copper >is interesting, when considering EHS and EMF-EMR (Electromagnetic >Fields and Radiation) due to the very high conductivity of this >metal. Actually, copper is interesting to me as well. I had a naturapath do a hair mineral analysis on me several years ago. My mercury readings were high, but not terribly so. My copper readings however were off the scale -- like 100 times above normal! Of course, the doctor concluded that the test results must be wrong, but I always wondered... maybe the test results were right, as indeed copper would make me a great conductor of electricity! Of course, if you read books on mercury poisoning, you will find something called mercury-induced copper toxicity. So it all could be related -- or not! Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 I believe most copper poisonings from amalgam is caused by the high copper-amalgam fillings used for many years, at least in Northern Europe. So, it doesn't have to be mercury-induced. There is plenty copper in amalgam, which is very readily moveable - being many times more conductive than mercury. Nikolaj > Of course, if you read books on mercury poisoning, you will find something called mercury-induced copper toxicity. So it all could be related -- or not! > Marc - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nikolaj Holtermann, cand. scient., sundhedskonsulent Rosengården 14, 3.tv DK - 1174 København K tlf 33930070 email nvhh@... www.sundhedskonsulenten.tk (.tk og ikke .dk) http://hjem.get2net.dk/nikolaj_holtermann Re: Copper >I am EHS (Electrohypersensitive) and heavy metal/amalgam poisoned >also. I am heavily copper- besides the mercury-poisoning, and copper >is interesting, when considering EHS and EMF-EMR (Electromagnetic >Fields and Radiation) due to the very high conductivity of this >metal. Actually, copper is interesting to me as well. I had a naturapath do a hair mineral analysis on me several years ago. My mercury readings were high, but not terribly so. My copper readings however were off the scale -- like 100 times above normal! Of course, the doctor concluded that the test results must be wrong, but I always wondered... maybe the test results were right, as indeed copper would make me a great conductor of electricity! Of course, if you read books on mercury poisoning, you will find something called mercury-induced copper toxicity. So it all could be related -- or not! Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 hi tina, i have to explore this further...sounds a LOT like me...so much so it's a little scary. my good friend and i were talking about that intuitiveness that is described here. she and i are both that way...so much so that it's scary. we work together at the doctors' office & both meet twice a week at the campus. i've been having some really strong stuff come through at school lately, and sometimes it makes me feel a bit nuts, you know. but my friend says she is getting the same feelings and vibes, so i am trusting it, taking steps to protect myself. On Wed, she and my other friend both got confirmation that what we were feeling was indeed happening. When she told me yesterday, I got so scared. having her sitting next to me in the math lab calms me. when she left yesterday to go to her class, I became extremely anxious because my thoughts started racing. these kind of intuitive feelings can be extremely frightening. they can make you feel a bit paranoid sometimes. my friend is the only other person I've met who is like me. i've learned to not talk about this with people. they don't understand, and i end up getting labelled or judged. anyway, this article was certainly eye-opening. I'm gonna read more. thanks so much for posting it! hugs, sheila tina83862 <tina83862@...> wrote: > > COPPER TOXICITY SYNDROME > > > Do you know anyone who suffers from headaches, > fatigue, insomnia, depression, skin rashes, spaciness, learning > disorders or premenstrual syndrome? These can be symptoms of a copper > imbalance. > Copper, an essential trace mineral, is vitally > important for both physical and mental health. It has been studied for > years, including at government laboratories. However, its importance > for health is still largely unappreciated. The following is but an > introduction. The author is deeply indebted to Dr. C. Eck, an avid > copper researcher. > > > COPPER'S ROLE IN THE BODY > > Copper is critical for energy production in the > cells. It is also involved in nerve conduction, connective tissue, the > cardiovascular system and the immune system. Copper is closely related > to estrogen metabolism, and is required for women's fertility and to > maintain pregnancy. Copper stimulates production of the > neurotransmitters epinephrine, norepinephrine and dopamine. It is also > required for monoamine oxidase, an enzyme related to serotonin > production. > It is possible to become copper-toxic or > copper-deficient, and there is a condition called biounavailable > copper. In the latter, copper is present, but cannot be utilized. > Toxicity and biounavailability are seen most often. This article uses > the words copper imbalance when more than one situation is possible. > Physical conditions associated with copper > imbalance include arthritis, fatigue, adrenal burnout, insomnia, > scoliosis, osteoporosis, heart disease, cancer, migraine headaches, > seizures, fungal and bacterial infections including yeast infection, gum > disease, tooth decay, skin and hair problems and female organ conditions > including uterine fibroids, endometriosis and > others. Mental and emotional disorders related > to copper imbalance include spaciness, depression, mood swings, fears, > anxiety, phobias, panic attacks, violence, autism, schizophrenia, and > attention deficit disorder. Copper deficiency is associated with > aneurysms, gout, anemia and osteoporosis. > Interestingly, the symptoms of premenstrual tension are identical to the > symptoms of copper imbalance. > > > SOURCES OF COPPER > > Today, many children are born with excessive > tissue copper. It is passed from high-copper mothers to their children > through the placenta. > Stress from any cause contributes to copper > imbalance. Stress depletes the adrenal glands and lowers the zinc level > in the body. Whenever zinc becomes deficient, copper tends to > accumulate. Our soil is low in zinc. Refined sugar, white rice and > white flour have been stripped of their zinc. The trend toward > vegetarianism reduces zinc in the diet, since red meat is the best > dietary source of zinc. > Copper is found in many foods, particularly > vegetarian proteins such as nuts, beans, seeds and grains. Meats > contain copper, but it is balanced by zinc which competes for its > absorption. Chocolate is high in copper. A desire for copper may help > explain chocolate cravings. > Another source of copper is drinking water that > remained in copper water pipes, or copper added to your water supply. > During a recent dry summer, several Oregon cities added copper sulfate > to their reservoirs to reduce algae growth. Accident and disease rates > increased. > Other sources of copper are copper cookware, > dental materials, vitamin pills, fungicides and pesticides residues on > food, copper intra-uterine devices and birth control pills. Mrs. > and her 6-month-old, breast-fed baby both began to experience > hair loss. The cause was a daily prenatal vitamin containing 4 > milligrams of copper, far too much for this high-copper > mother. Deficiencies of manganese, iron, > B-vitamins and vitamin C can cause copper to accumulate. Adrenal > hormones cause the liver to produce ceruloplasmin, the main copper > binding protein in the body. Therefore, a sluggish liver or weak > adrenal glands may cause copper to build up in the tissues. > > > THE COPPER PERSONALITY > > There is a high copper personality. Positive > traits include a warm, caring, sensitive, emotional nature, often with > artistic orientation and a child-like quality. Often high-copper people > are young-looking. Many traditional feminine traits are associated with > copper such as softness, gentleness and intuitiveness. > When the personality is not fully integrated or > the copper becomes too high, negative traits show up. These include > spaciness, racing thoughts, living in a dream world, naivete, > childishness, excessive emotions, sentimentality, a tendency to > depression, fearfulness, hidden anger and resentments, phobias, > psychosis and violence. Artists, inventors and other high-copper types > often " live on the edge " , in part due to their high copper level. > The copper personality tends to accumulate > copper easily. Copper functions as a psychological defense mechanism. > It causes one to detach slightly from reality. This provides relief > from stress for the sensitive individual. It works well as long as the > copper does not become too high. Very high copper can cause a psychotic > break from reality, a type of schizophrenia. > An 18-year old schizophrenic patient had a hair > copper level of 40 mg% (normal is 2.5 mg%). She hallucinated and > attempted suicide twice while in the sdale Camelback Mental > Hospital. When her copper decreased to normal through a diet and > supplement program, her symptoms disappeared and she has remained well. > > > COPPER AND SOCIETY > > Is it possible that our mineral balance affects > our attitudes? Copper is called the 'psychic' mineral, the 'intuitive' > mineral, and a 'feminine' mineral because it is so important for the > female reproductive system. Its level generally parallels that of > estrogen. While many factors influence our attitudes and values, the > rise in tissue copper levels in both men and women in the past twenty > years parallels renewed interest in feminism, in psychic and intuitive > knowledge, and 'nurturing' movements such as environmentalism. > > > COPPER AND SEXUALITY > > Women tend to have higher levels of copper than > men. Women also have more symptoms related to copper imbalance. These > include yeast infections, migraine headaches, adult acne, various > menstrual symptoms and depression. > Copper-toxic women are often estrogen dominant. > They may benefit from progesterone therapy to help balance their > hormones. Women with biounavailable copper are often low in estrogen. > Their bodies are often more linear in shape. Of course, copper is not > the only factor affecting hormones. Some pesticides, for example, mimic > the effects of estrogen and can affect the hormone balance. > Men, by contrast, should be zinc-dominant. > Zinc, a 'masculine' element, balances copper in the body, and is > essential for male reproductive activity. Today, however, many men have > symptoms of copper toxicity including depression, anxiety and other > symptoms. Homosexuality may be related to copper levels. This is > because secondary sex characteristics are greatly influenced by hormones > which are in turn influenced by copper and zinc levels. > > > COPPER AND CHILDREN > > Children are often born with high copper > levels. Young children are very sensitive and intuitive. They often > lose some of their sensitivity and 'psychic abilities' as their copper > levels diminish around age four. > Persistent elevated copper levels in children > are common today. The problem often begins during gestation, when > high-copper mothers pass on excessive copper (and often low zinc) to the > fetus through the placenta. This is called congenital, rather than > genetic high copper. It can be prevented by correcting one's copper > metabolism before becoming pregnant. After birth, poor nutrition, > stress in the home, and overuse of prescription drugs can aggravate a > child's copper imbalance. > Copper imbalance in children is associated with > delayed development, attention deficit disorder, anti-social and > hyperactive behavior, autism, learning difficulties and infections such > as ear infections. > > > VEGETARIAN DIETS > > Excess copper interferes with zinc, a mineral > needed to make digestive enzymes. Too much copper also impairs thyroid > activity and the functioning of the liver. If severe enough, a person > will become an obligatory vegetarian. This means they are no longer > able to digest meat very well. Conversely, if one becomes a vegetarian > for other reasons, most likely one's copper level will increase. > Vegetarian proteins are higher in copper, and lower in zinc. > At times, the vegetarian orientation is > health-producing. In many people, however, restricted diets do not work > well. Fatigue, spaciness and other symptoms begin to appear. Many > people, including the author, felt they were becoming more spiritual on > a vegetarian diet, when in fact it was just copper poisoning! The taste > for meat often returns when copper is brought into better balance. > Some people with high copper dislike all > protein. They crave high-carbohydrate diets. Protein feels heavy or > causes other symptoms. Eating protein stimulates glandular activity. > This releases stored copper which causes the symptoms. However, these > individuals usually need to eat protein. The symptoms will eventually > disappear. > Copper-toxic individuals may also be drawn to > sweets or salty foods due to adrenal insufficiency. Some sea salt is > often beneficial. Sweets, including fruit juices, provide a temporary > lift but may worsen the condition. > > > ADRENAL BURNOUT > > Adrenal burnout, characterized by chronic > fatigue and other symptoms, is often related to copper imbalance. > Although correcting emotional and other factors are necessary, improving > the copper imbalance, supporting the adrenals and releasing fearful > thoughts go hand in hand to restore optimum health. Click here for > more information about adrenal burnout syndrome. > > > COPPER AND ADDICTION > > Compulsive behavior may be related to copper and > the adrenals. Exercise, for example, stimulates the adrenals. This > helps keep copper available and makes one feel better. If one stops > exercising, unbound copper builds up and one may feel fatigue, mood > swings and depression. In some people, this can create a compulsive > need to exercise. Other ways to temporarily control copper toxicity > include the use of caffeine or other stimulants. > Part of the appeal of cocaine, Ritalin and > amphetamines may be their ability to help lower copper temporarily by > stimulating the adrenals. Cadmium found in marijuana and cigarettes > drives copper back into storage. These drugs may make one feel better > by affecting the copper balance. > > > COPPER AND YEAST INFECTIONS > > Our bodies use copper to help control the growth > of yeast. This may be because copper favors aerobic metabolism. Copper > is required for the electron transport system, where most of our > cellular energy is produced. Yeast organisms use anerobic metabolism. > Copper sulfate is often sprayed on crops to kill > yeast and fungus. Copper is also used in some swimming pools and hot > tubs to control yeast and bacterial growth. > When copper is out of balance, our bodies cannot > control yeast overgrowth. This often lead to chronic candida albicans > infections that are resistant to treatment. > > > COPPER AND MALIGNANCY > > Copper imbalance impairs the immune system. Research is > underway investigating the role of excess copper in tumor angiogenesis. > Copper imbalance is often related to a tendency for infections and > cancer. > > > COPPER AND CONNECTIVE TISSUE > > Copper is required for collagen formation. Copper deficiency is > association with atherosclerosis and other cardiovascular conditions. > Excess copper or biounavailable copper often cause connective tissue > problems, interfering with the disulfide bonds in connective tissue. > Symptoms may include stretch marks, tendon and ligament weakness, mitral > valve prolapse, skin and hair problems and other conditions affecting > connective tissue. > > > DETECTING COPPER IMBALANCE > > Blood, urine and hair analysis are used to > detect copper toxicity. Challenge tests with a chelating agent such as > EDTA may also be used to detect excess copper. However, they may not > reveal copper toxicity directly. Copper is stored mainly in the brain, > liver and other organs, not in the blood or urine. A liver biopsy can > be performed for copper, but this is invasive and unnecessary. > Several indirect indicators on a hair mineral > test are excellent to detect copper imbalance. These include a hair > calcium level greater than about 100 mg%, a potassium level less than > about 3 mg%, a sodium/potassium ratio less than 2.5:1, a zinc/copper > ratio less than 6:1, an elevated mercury level or a copper level less > than 1.0 mg%. > > > BALANCING COPPER > > The author dealt with severe copper imbalance in > himself and with many others for the past 18 years. Seven methods are > used to reduce copper in the tissues: > > 1) Inhibit the sympathetic nervous system. This > is easier said than done. Copper toxic individuals often complain of > their mind racing. Turning off the sympathetic or fight-or-flight > nervous system can be a challenge. Methods that are helpful include > electric light sauna therapy, meditation, relaxation techniques, deep > breathing, supplemental calcium, magnesium, ox bile, pancreatin, kidney > glandular and coffee enemas. > 2) Reduce exposure to sources of copper like > copper intra-uterine devices, swimming in pools and high-copper > vegetarian diets. > 3) Antagonists such as zinc, manganese and iron > compete with copper for absorption and utilization. Other antagonists > include vitamins B6, folic acid and selenium. Research indicates copper > may be excreted by binding with glutathione and metallothionine which > require these nutrients. > 4) Chelators of copper include vitamin C, > molybdenum and sulfur-containing amino acids. These bind and remove > copper. More powerful chelators may be used, but can have harmful side > effects. > 5) Enhance the eliminative organs, such as the > liver, skin and colon. Digestive enzymes, especially pancreatin, are > very important. Also excellent is sauna therapy, especially with an > infrared electric light sauna. Other methods of enhancing the > eliminative organs are coffee enemas, colonic irrigation and skin > brushing. > 6) Balance body chemistry, enhance energy > production and improve adrenal gland activity. To support the adrenal > glands, avoid sweets, eat protein with each meal. Supplements that > assist the adrenals include vitamins A,C and E, manganese, zinc, adrenal > glandular and B-complex vitamins. Animal protein is very helpful due to > its higher content of zinc, B-vitamins and sulfur amino acids including > cysteine and taurine. Adrenal glandular substance is also frequently > helpful. > 7) Reduce fear and stress. Methods range from a > change in location or work to meditation, therapy, more rest and other > changes. > > Note that just taking a lot of copper > antagonists and chelators may not work very well. This is because it > does not balance body chemistry. For example, zinc and vitamin C lower > sodium while molybdenum raises sodium. Each vitamin and mineral > affects overall body chemistry. For best results, I strongly recommend > an integrated nutrition, lifestyle and detoxification program based on a > properly performed and interpreted hair mineral analysis. It is worth > the extra cost and you will save more in not buying unneeded > supplements. > > > COPPER DETOXIFICATION SYMPTOMS > > One of the difficulties in reducing excess > copper are symptoms that arise during the process of elimination. As > the body begins to mobilize excess copper from tissue storage sites, it > enters the bloodstream on its way to the liver and kidneys for > elimination. While in the bloodstream, the copper can cause headaches, > skin rashes, racing thoughts, strange odors, digestive upset, mood > swings and energy fluctuations. In men, testicular pain is not > uncommon. WomenÃs periods may be affected. > Certain methods of lowering copper cause these > symptoms more than others. Zinc, vitamin C and manganese tend to cause > more symptoms, perhaps because zinc and manganese replace copper in the > liver. Molybdenum and sulfur compounds such as Russian black radish > tend not to produce copper elimination effects. > If one knows what is occurring, it is possible > to take measures to minimize these temporary elimination symptoms. > Enemas, sweating, and drinking more water can help promote copper > elimination. Reducing the nutrition program for a few days may also > help slow the reactions and reduce symptoms if they are severe. > Supplements of molybdenum, bile acids, laxative herbs and vitamin B6 may > also mitigate elimination symptoms. > > > > ATTITUDES TO HELP BALANCE COPPER > > Adequate rest and sleep are important. Any > technique to help handle stress is also helpful. A simple but powerful > technique for handling all negative emotions is given in an excellent > book, Emissary of Light, by Twyman. He suggests to feel our > negative emotions purely, dissociating them from thoughts. Feel them in > the body. Then move the feeling to the heart area, visualize a small > door just in front of you, open the door and release the emotion. > Realize that all feelings are just energies. They can be transmuted, > sent forth and used for good. > High copper people are often sensitive, must > acknowledge this and 'live their own truth'. At the same time, a > careful look at one's attitudes, especially hidden fears, angers and > resentments, is very important. Overcoming copper imbalance often > involves overcoming deep fears. > Life is not always easy for the copper-toxic > person. One can become resentful or depressed at times. With > understanding, a complete nutritional balancing program based on hair > mineral analysis and lots of compassion for oneself, these obstacles can > be overcome. Then the creative, intuitive and loving qualities of the > high-copper individual can shine through to the world. > > Resources > > 1. Eck, P. and , L., Toxic Metals in Human Health and Disease, Eck > Institute of Applied Nutrition and Bioenergetics, Ltd., Phoenix, AZ, > 1989. > > 2. Gittleman, A.L., Why Am I Always So Tired?, Harper San Francisco, > 1999. > > 3. Nolan, K., " Copper Toxicity Syndrome " , J. Orthomolecular Psychiatry, > 12:4, p.270-282. > > 4. Pfeiffer, C., Mental and Elemental Nutrients, Keats Publishing, New > Canaan, CT., 1975. > > 4. Twyman, J., Emissary of Light, Warner Books, New York, 1996. > > 5. , L., Nutritional Balancing and Hair Mineral Analysis, L.D. > Consultants, 1998. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 ---Hi What do you make of Dr Klinghardt where he talks of copper etc for Lyme and CFS?http://www.lymeinfo.net/alt.html Healing thoughts, Wallace In , " isoptera.geo " <isoptera@m...> wrote: > > I do not know what the best strategy for copper is in CFS. I do > know that it has been proved to be essential beyond any doubt, and a > lot of people have died because of deficiency. If you or anyone you > know have any of the following symptoms, there is a good chance that > you are suffering from a copper deficiency; hemorrhoids, aneurysms, > anemia, emphysema, slipped or herniated spinal discs, susceptibility > to shaving cuts, high cholesterol, or varicose veins. Many combined > would be especially ominous. > In any case, if you do get straight in your mind whether copper > should be decreased or increased, you may see how with food at the > following site; http://members.tripod.com/~charles_W/copper3.html . > You can also see how foods are valued with respect to copper per > calorie at; http://members.tripod.com/~charles_W/copperzinc.html . > If you have any good or bad experiences with copper, please let me > know. > Sincerely, Weber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Ellen, I don't recall any links on copper (or iron) being necessary before you start iodine. Could you please give the links? Thanks. Zoe It does say in the links about vitamins thatyou need to get your copper an iron up before your start idodine.Ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 > It was in the vitamin section on the iodine group....I read alot of those link last night..The list of supplements link. Does it have to do with hashi's too or is it just hyper or hypo Thanks Ellen > From: " Zoe & " <ZOEA@...> > Date: 2006/09/01 Fri AM 09:26:47 EDT > <iodine > > Subject: Re: Copper > > Ellen, I don't recall any links on copper (or iron) being necessary before you start iodine. > > Could you please give the links? > > Thanks. > > Zoe > > > It does say in the links about vitamins that > you need to get your copper an iron up before your start idodine. > > Ellen > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Ellen, could you please try to find the exact link? It is very helpful to us when you give an exact link when referring to something, whether on our own site or somewhere else. That enables us to quickly check your information in context and learn more. On this group, it is a good idea to include your links and sources whenever possible. That enables us to build our knowledge base and to assess contradictory ideas. Thanks. Zoe Moderator > It was in the vitamin section on the iodine group....I read alot of those link last night..The list of supplements link. Does it have to do with hashi's too or is it just hyper or hypoThanks Ellen> > Ellen, I don't recall any links on copper (or iron) being necessary before you start iodine. > > Could you please give the links? > > Thanks. > > Zoe> > > It does say in the links about vitamins that> you need to get your copper an iron up before your start idodine.> > Ellen> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 http://www.ithyroid.com/supplements.htm Read it carefully and let me know what you think. Ellen Re: Copper Ellen, could you please try to find the exact link? It is very helpful to us when you give an exact link when referring to something, whether on our own site or somewhere else. That enables us to quickly check your information in context and learn more. On this group, it is a good idea to include your links and sources whenever possible. That enables us to build our knowledge base and to assess contradictory ideas. Thanks. Zoe Moderator > It was in the vitamin section on the iodine group....I read alot of those link last night..The list of supplements link. Does it have to do with hashi's too or is it just hyper or hypoThanks Ellen> > Ellen, I don't recall any links on copper (or iron) being necessary before you start iodine. > > Could you please give the links? > > Thanks. > > Zoe> > > It does say in the links about vitamins that> you need to get your copper an iron up before your start idodine.> > Ellen> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Hi All, I have a lot of female patients who are depressed and also have low copper levels. Can anyone tell me the relationship and what to do nutritionally? Thanks With appreciation and joy,Dr. Cary Birch, PhD, Homeopathy, Quantum Biofeedback, EFT, NES.~SMILE~ Stress Management Institute for Living Empowered 661 942-4220 www.eftsmile.com Your Peace is Our Product Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Why not have her minerals levels tested, and while you're at it, her neurotransmitters? is Rotella, M.Ac., CNC > > > Hi All, > > I have a lot of female patients who are depressed and also have low > copper levels. > Can anyone tell me the relationship and what to do nutritionally? > Thanks > > With appreciation and joy, > Dr. Cary Birch, PhD, Homeopathy, Quantum Biofeedback, EFT, NES. > ~SMILE~ Stress Management Institute for Living Empowered > 661 942-4220 www.eftsmile.com Your Peace is Our Product > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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