Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 You may want to read: http://cis.nci.nih.gov/fact/7_16.htm " Tamoxifen increases the risk of two types of cancer " A Google search on: Tamoxifen Is a good start for some research. Drugs are man made which make them acidic. This is a possible cause of triglyceride levels increasing. Remember cholesterol is needed in the body. It is interesting how cholesterol is always checked but homocystein levels are not ever checked. For more information on homocystein levels do a google search on: homocystein levels It is interesting that you were doing mostly natural and decided on this drug. Sounds like you have a good start on the natural side. What is your pH? What do you drink? What do you eat? These can all help you when done correctly. These may be helpful. Message 22602 " Cancer Prevention and Fighting Ideas " American Cancer Society Ellagic Acid http://www.cancer.org/docroot/ETO/content/ETO_5_3X_Ellagic_Acid.asp? sitearea=ETO " Alkalize or Die " by Theodore A. Baroody For more information on the natural side you can email me Darryl Milligan with " Ask Darryl " in the subject for faster response. dkmill@... Or Email and Houser with subject " Ask and " . nuherb@... > I had surgery and radiation (I had grave doubts about both of those > choices, but what's done is done) for Invasive Ductal Carcinoma > recently. I refused chemo and do not want to take it under any > scenario. From this point on, I want to manage the cancer naturally > and am taking 400mg of CoQ-10, antioxidents, Essiac and practicing > some detox methods - coffee enemas, seaweed soaks as well as > acupunture & lymphatic massage. I'm eating a low-sugar, mostly > organic diet. I have an appointment with an ND in early December. > However, I was put on Tamoxifen in Sept. by the oncologist I saw > initially. I'm still gathering information to help me decide if/or > how long to continue to take this. One of the side effects listed is > that it elevates trigycerides in some women. Does anyone here have a > clue as to why that would happen, since it tends to lower > cholesteral?! I haven't been able to find out, so help is appreciated! > Thanks, > Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 You may want to read: http://cis.nci.nih.gov/fact/7_16.htm " Tamoxifen increases the risk of two types of cancer " A Google search on: Tamoxifen Is a good start for some research. Drugs are man made which make them acidic. This is a possible cause of triglyceride levels increasing. Remember cholesterol is needed in the body. It is interesting how cholesterol is always checked but homocystein levels are not ever checked. For more information on homocystein levels do a google search on: homocystein levels It is interesting that you were doing mostly natural and decided on this drug. Sounds like you have a good start on the natural side. What is your pH? What do you drink? What do you eat? These can all help you when done correctly. These may be helpful. Message 22602 " Cancer Prevention and Fighting Ideas " American Cancer Society Ellagic Acid http://www.cancer.org/docroot/ETO/content/ETO_5_3X_Ellagic_Acid.asp? sitearea=ETO " Alkalize or Die " by Theodore A. Baroody For more information on the natural side you can email me Darryl Milligan with " Ask Darryl " in the subject for faster response. dkmill@... Or Email and Houser with subject " Ask and " . nuherb@... > I had surgery and radiation (I had grave doubts about both of those > choices, but what's done is done) for Invasive Ductal Carcinoma > recently. I refused chemo and do not want to take it under any > scenario. From this point on, I want to manage the cancer naturally > and am taking 400mg of CoQ-10, antioxidents, Essiac and practicing > some detox methods - coffee enemas, seaweed soaks as well as > acupunture & lymphatic massage. I'm eating a low-sugar, mostly > organic diet. I have an appointment with an ND in early December. > However, I was put on Tamoxifen in Sept. by the oncologist I saw > initially. I'm still gathering information to help me decide if/or > how long to continue to take this. One of the side effects listed is > that it elevates trigycerides in some women. Does anyone here have a > clue as to why that would happen, since it tends to lower > cholesteral?! I haven't been able to find out, so help is appreciated! > Thanks, > Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Hi Darryl, Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I will check out your suggestions. I have little conflict in combining allopathic meds with natural regimes, as long as I stay well-informed and contantly review risks vs. benefits. For the nonce, I have decided that the benefits of Tamoxifen far outweight the risks (for me) but I want to continue to learn as much as I can about possible problems. I am considering taking it for only the first critical two years, as opposed to five. And, I've been meaning to get some PH test strips, thanks for the reminder! Best, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Hi Darryl, Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I will check out your suggestions. I have little conflict in combining allopathic meds with natural regimes, as long as I stay well-informed and contantly review risks vs. benefits. For the nonce, I have decided that the benefits of Tamoxifen far outweight the risks (for me) but I want to continue to learn as much as I can about possible problems. I am considering taking it for only the first critical two years, as opposed to five. And, I've been meaning to get some PH test strips, thanks for the reminder! Best, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Why not in stead of tamoxifen, Arimidex or letrazole? Is proven better effect and less sideeffects. Gr. kees Re: Tamoxifen > Hi Darryl, > Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I will check out your suggestions. > I have little conflict in combining allopathic meds with natural > regimes, as long as I stay well-informed and contantly review risks > vs. benefits. For the nonce, I have decided that the benefits of > Tamoxifen far outweight the risks (for me) but I want to continue to > learn as much as I can about possible problems. I am considering > taking it for only the first critical two years, as opposed to five. > And, I've been meaning to get some PH test strips, thanks for the > reminder! > Best, > Chris > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Why not in stead of tamoxifen, Arimidex or letrazole? Is proven better effect and less sideeffects. Gr. kees Re: Tamoxifen > Hi Darryl, > Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I will check out your suggestions. > I have little conflict in combining allopathic meds with natural > regimes, as long as I stay well-informed and contantly review risks > vs. benefits. For the nonce, I have decided that the benefits of > Tamoxifen far outweight the risks (for me) but I want to continue to > learn as much as I can about possible problems. I am considering > taking it for only the first critical two years, as opposed to five. > And, I've been meaning to get some PH test strips, thanks for the > reminder! > Best, > Chris > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 -Hmmm. Arimidex was shown to be more effective in post-menopausal women & I was just entering menopause. Tamoxifen has a much longer track record, I know a few women who have taken the full course, and it offers more protection against osteoporosis and " bad " cholestoral. Letrazole wasn't offered to me & I'm just starting to read about it. I'm hoping that after a couple of years, I can segue into using just the Budwig protocol of flaxseeds & cottage cheese plus other natural methods. ly, I'm just too uncertain at this point..I haven't had to deal with this as long as some of you. I thank you for your input, Chris -- In cures for cancer , " c.w. Braam " <redactie@k...> wrote: > Why not in stead of tamoxifen, Arimidex or letrazole? Is proven better > effect and less sideeffects. > > Gr. kees > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 -Hmmm. Arimidex was shown to be more effective in post-menopausal women & I was just entering menopause. Tamoxifen has a much longer track record, I know a few women who have taken the full course, and it offers more protection against osteoporosis and " bad " cholestoral. Letrazole wasn't offered to me & I'm just starting to read about it. I'm hoping that after a couple of years, I can segue into using just the Budwig protocol of flaxseeds & cottage cheese plus other natural methods. ly, I'm just too uncertain at this point..I haven't had to deal with this as long as some of you. I thank you for your input, Chris -- In cures for cancer , " c.w. Braam " <redactie@k...> wrote: > Why not in stead of tamoxifen, Arimidex or letrazole? Is proven better > effect and less sideeffects. > > Gr. kees > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Dear together with Arimidex now Roche Hoffman is allowed to give Bondronat (a biophosphonate) for the boneproblems. It seems to be the best recent combination for breastcancer with bonemetastases. Look with the word Bondronat in www.google.com and you will find a lot of information. Gr. kees Braam Re: Tamoxifen > -Hmmm. Arimidex was shown to be more effective in post-menopausal > women & I was just entering menopause. Tamoxifen has a much longer > track record, I know a few women who have taken the full course, and > it offers more protection against osteoporosis and " bad " cholestoral. > Letrazole wasn't offered to me & I'm just starting to read about it. > I'm hoping that after a couple of years, I can segue into using just > the Budwig protocol of flaxseeds & cottage cheese plus other natural > methods. ly, I'm just too uncertain at this point..I haven't had > to deal with this as long as some of you. > I thank you for your input, > Chris > > -- In cures for cancer , " c.w. Braam " <redactie@k...> wrote: > > Why not in stead of tamoxifen, Arimidex or letrazole? Is proven > better > > effect and less sideeffects. > > > > Gr. kees > > > >> > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Dear together with Arimidex now Roche Hoffman is allowed to give Bondronat (a biophosphonate) for the boneproblems. It seems to be the best recent combination for breastcancer with bonemetastases. Look with the word Bondronat in www.google.com and you will find a lot of information. Gr. kees Braam Re: Tamoxifen > -Hmmm. Arimidex was shown to be more effective in post-menopausal > women & I was just entering menopause. Tamoxifen has a much longer > track record, I know a few women who have taken the full course, and > it offers more protection against osteoporosis and " bad " cholestoral. > Letrazole wasn't offered to me & I'm just starting to read about it. > I'm hoping that after a couple of years, I can segue into using just > the Budwig protocol of flaxseeds & cottage cheese plus other natural > methods. ly, I'm just too uncertain at this point..I haven't had > to deal with this as long as some of you. > I thank you for your input, > Chris > > -- In cures for cancer , " c.w. Braam " <redactie@k...> wrote: > > Why not in stead of tamoxifen, Arimidex or letrazole? Is proven > better > > effect and less sideeffects. > > > > Gr. kees > > > >> > > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 , Good catch. That's what happan when you have had a white night. It is indeed endometrial cancer rather than cervical cancer, the risk of which is increased by taking tamoxifen. Still, that does not change the point of my message, namely, the double standarts used by the medical industry. Gubi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Gubi, I'm in total agreement with you on the double standards. Drug companies downplay the risks. Some of these drugs, like Tamoxifen, can and do result in more agressive cancers. --- Gubi <gubisara@...> wrote: > , > > Good catch. That's what happan when you have had a > white night. > It is indeed endometrial cancer rather than cervical > cancer, the risk of which is increased by taking > tamoxifen. > Still, that does not change the point of my message, > namely, the double standarts used by the medical > industry. > > Gubi > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. http://autos./green_center/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Dear I am in the reverse of you. I had breast cancer in 1990 and now developing CLL. I did not take tamoxifin but will be interested if is recommended for you. Maureen Tamoxifen Dear Cllers, Thanks to all who sent words of encouragement to me re: breast cancer. I just got home from MD s. Dr Keating told me to put the this breast cancer issue first, and that my CLL is stable. He said he will work with my oncologist hear and after my surgery he wants all path reports sent to him. He did mention a pill that may be helpful in both the breast cancer and CLL. He didnt really comment on the pill he was speaking of. I guess he wants to see the pathology report first. I go in for surgery this Friday for a lumpectomy. I guess radiation will be discussed as well. I wonder if the pill he was referring to is Tamoxifen since it is used for CLL and breast cancer (begining stage 0-) (high grade in situ ductal carcinoma). I just printed out some info about Tamoxifen. Can someone maybe even our medical adviser give me some advice on this.Or maybe there is a female CLLer who also has breast cancer who could comment on this. Im preparing my mind for the surgery, but up in the air about the unknown treatment afterwards. Thanks everone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Hi Lads Can anybody tell me more about Tamoxifen? What is your experience with it and what kind of dose is required? Thanks for your time men Ade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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