Re: ERECTIONS PROBLEMS, EARLY EJACULATION, CIALIS DOESNT WORK WELL

[Guest guest]

Premature ejaculation occurs when norepinephrine levels are high.

This is what triggers orgasm.

So what can you do to reduce norepinephrine?

Optimize thyroid, testosterone, take selenium, Vit D, B12, and A, make sure

ferritin is at least 70. Lower insulin resistance by cutting white-flour carbs.

Are you on any other meds like beta blockers? That can contribute to the

problem.

Barb

Green <dustin.green@...> wrote:

>

> Hello everyone,

>  

> Just a reminder that I took steroids for two weeks and have erection problems

and problems with early ejactulation.

>  

> Phil told me that he thinks my Estradiol levels are out of place.  I thought

they were too high but I have problems with early ejactulation so I didn't think

this could be it.  Also I don't know if they are too low because I can

sometimes get an okay erection with Cialis.  So maybe my E2 is low but not that

low...I dont even know.  I will have to test for it.  Does anyone know what

early ejaculation is a sign of?

>  

> I ordered cialis from all day chemist and it doesn't seem to work.  I read

that each pill is 8 mgs... I have been taking it everyday and each day gets a

little better but not by much. I get an okay erection in the morning (about a 7

out of 10) This is probably because it is building up more in my system.  I am

actually going to take 2 of the pills and see if it works better.  Has any one

tried this?

>  

> Here are all my test results:

>  

> Bioavailable Ad Male Tesost -  336 ng/dL  on a scale of 131-682

>  

> Free Testosterone - 123 pg/mL on a scale of 47-244

>  

> Percent Free Testosterone - 2.4% on a scale of 1.6-2.9

>  

> Adult Male Tesosterone - 517 ng/dL on a scale of 400-1080

>  

> Sex Hormone Binding Globulin - 21 nmol/L on a scale of 11-80

>  

> So my values seem to be okay I think which is frustrating because I still

can't get it up!   So I guess I will get my Estradiols, prolactin and Thyroid

checked.  If those are all normal I dont know what else to do!!

>  

> Is there anything else that I can get checked besides estradiols, prolactin

and thyroid?  Is there a place I could go besides the doctor to get this

checked??  My insurance doesn't kick in for another 30 days.

>  

> Is there a shot I could use to get an erections... my wife and I decided we

want her to get pregnent.  I think it's called Trimix...is there any way to get

a hold of this without going through your doctor?

>  

> Please help!!

>  

>

[Guest guest]

Trymix is good stuff but you need to see a Uro to get it and he needs to check

you to see how much you need to take. If you use to much you end up with an

Erection that will not go down then you need to go the ER to get it down. At

this link there is a lot of info about this. PE can be your hormones are off a

lot of men with higher levels of Estradiol have PE then when it gets to high

they can't have an orgasm.

Alt-Support-Impotence-ASI/

Co-Moderator

Phil

> >

> >

> >

> > > From: Mike L. <mikeydell25@...>

> >

> > > Subject: Re: Possible bad batch of

> T

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Date: Sunday, September 5, 2010, 11:45 AM

> >

> > > Is it possible that it's CC's? That

> >

> > > would be my only other guess. 300cc's the

> >

> > > first shot and 400cc's for the last 3 subsequent

> > shots.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ________________________________

> >

> > > From: phil <phildude43@...>

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Sent: Sun, September 5, 2010 10:16:05 AM

> >

> > > Subject: Re: Possible bad batch of

> T

> >

> > >

> >

> > >   

> >

> > > 300 mcgs is such a small dose I doubt it could

> even

> > be

> >

> > > measured in a syringe

> >

> > > even if it was extremely concentrated.It would

> have

> > no

> >

> > > effect on you.Somewhere

> >

> > > there was some miscommuncation about the

> dosing.Phil

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > From: mikeydell25

> <mikeydell25@...>

> >

> > > > > Subject: Possible bad

> batch

> > of T

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Date: Saturday, September 4, 2010, 3:45

> PM

> >

> > > > > My doctor gave me my fourth shot of

> >

> > > > > testosterone (400mcgs(?) in 12 weeks

> this

> > past

> >

> > > Monday, by

> >

> > > > > Wednesday my left buttock was warm,

> very

> > painful

> >

> > > to the

> >

> > > > > touch and it was very difficult to walk

> or

> > even

> >

> > > sit. On

> >

> > > > > Thursday I received a call from his

> office

> >

> > > stating that I

> >

> > > > > needed to talk to the doc. He told me

> that

> >

> > > several people

> >

> > > > > had complained of similar symptoms and

> that

> > he

> >

> > > believed he

> >

> > > > > had a 'bad 'batch' of testosterone. He

> > prescribed

> >

> > > Cipro and

> >

> > > > > said he discarded the batch but sent a

> vial

> > to a

> >

> > > lab for

> >

> > > > > testing. He said that in his 13 years

> of

> >

> > > administering shots

> >

> > > > > nothing like this has ever occurred.

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > I'm feeling slightly better today,

> Saturday,

> > but

> >

> > > not 100%

> >

> > > > > yet.

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Has anyone here ever experienced

> similar

> > events

> >

> > > after

> >

> > > > > getting a shot and if so what were the

> > short/long

> >

> > > term

> >

> > > > > effects if any?

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > I am relatively new to testosterone

> therapy

> > so

> >

> > > please

> >

> > > > > excuse any ignorance.

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Thanks!

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hey Bill and Phil,

 

Thanks for the input!  No this has never happened before since after I took

steroids.  I am 25 now and I took them for two weeks and stopped cold turkey. 

I took them 2 years ago.  My brother and another friend actually took the same

kind way before I did and they did it for 4 weeks and they are fine.

 

Before this all happened I didn't have trouble with PE.  I mean I would NOT

last the longest ever but I could do pretty good and would not ejaculate before

I got it in.  Now sometimes I go off before I get it in and that is IF I can

get up usually with the help of Cialis.  But before I took them, before I got

off once I could wait 5 minutes and I was back for more and then I would last

for a long time, I was a champ in bed.

 

Another thing is, I was fine for the next month or so after I stopped taking the

roids and then a little over a month later I noticed my libido way down and NO

morning erections.  As the months passed I noticed it was harder and harder to

get it up.  I took finally on demand from wal-mart and it did wonders.  Come

to find out the FDA banned it due to Viagra in it.

 

Ooh and another thing!!!!   When I noticed I was not having good morning

woods, I tried to Masterbate myself to see if everything was okay and I actually

ejaculated when I wasn't even hard!!

 

Now I have tried everything, Viagra, Cialis, all kinds of herbs and it seems to

be even worse.  They help but still, I can't get it up most of the time. 

Another thing is, when I take Cialis when I do get it up my penis is not the

strongest erection I have ever had.  There have been a few herbs that I have

taken without cialis and they did great, however, my body just seems to become

immune to them.

 

I am honestly to the point where I want to just stick myself with a needle

everytime and not worry about it.  I really hope the reason for all this is

high Estradiol!!!  Has anyone else had these same symptoms?

 

I will talk to my doctor about Trymix, etc.  Bill, what else could I try to

get my wife pregnent?  It is actually difficult for her to pregnent as is as

she has PCOS (Poly Cystic Ovarian Syndrome).  She takes it pretty personal too

when I fail to get it up...  It's serioiusly the toughest time I have ever had

in my life.

 

 I will not start TRT as I don't think my test is all that low and I am in

great shape with 13 percent body fat.

 

I REALLY REALLY hope this is due to high estradiol levels....  anyone else have

these symptoms?  I am desperate for some help!!  I will be getting this testes

as soon as my insurance kicks in within 30 days.

> >

> >

> >

> > > From: Mike L. <mikeydell25@...>

> >

> > > Subject: Re: Possible bad batch of

> T

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Date: Sunday, September 5, 2010, 11:45 AM

> >

> > > Is it possible that it's CC's? That

> >

> > > would be my only other guess. 300cc's the

> >

> > > first shot and 400cc's for the last 3 subsequent

> > shots.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ________________________________

> >

> > > From: phil <phildude43@...>

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Sent: Sun, September 5, 2010 10:16:05 AM

> >

> > > Subject: Re: Possible bad batch of

> T

> >

> > >

> >

> > >   

> >

> > > 300 mcgs is such a small dose I doubt it could

> even

> > be

> >

> > > measured in a syringe

> >

> > > even if it was extremely concentrated.It would

> have

> > no

> >

> > > effect on you.Somewhere

> >

> > > there was some miscommuncation about the

> dosing.Phil

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > > From: mikeydell25

> <mikeydell25@...>

> >

> > > > > Subject: Possible bad

> batch

> > of T

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Date: Saturday, September 4, 2010, 3:45

> PM

> >

> > > > > My doctor gave me my fourth shot of

> >

> > > > > testosterone (400mcgs(?) in 12 weeks

> this

> > past

> >

> > > Monday, by

> >

> > > > > Wednesday my left buttock was warm,

> very

> > painful

> >

> > > to the

> >

> > > > > touch and it was very difficult to walk

> or

> > even

> >

> > > sit. On

> >

> > > > > Thursday I received a call from his

> office

> >

> > > stating that I

> >

> > > > > needed to talk to the doc. He told me

> that

> >

> > > several people

> >

> > > > > had complained of similar symptoms and

> that

> > he

> >

> > > believed he

> >

> > > > > had a 'bad 'batch' of testosterone. He

> > prescribed

> >

> > > Cipro and

> >

> > > > > said he discarded the batch but sent a

> vial

> > to a

> >

> > > lab for

> >

> > > > > testing. He said that in his 13 years

> of

> >

> > > administering shots

> >

> > > > > nothing like this has ever occurred.

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > I'm feeling slightly better today,

> Saturday,

> > but

> >

> > > not 100%

> >

> > > > > yet.

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Has anyone here ever experienced

> similar

> > events

> >

> > > after

> >

> > > > > getting a shot and if so what were the

> > short/long

> >

> > > term

> >

> > > > > effects if any?

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > I am relatively new to testosterone

> therapy

> > so

> >

> > > please

> >

> > > > > excuse any ignorance.

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Thanks!

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

The thing about higher levels of E2 is you can get weak wood on pills and have

PE I never had this problem but I was a lot older when this started up in my mid

50's. And my E2 levels were very high even when Viagra came out it did not help

just made me feel to sick for sex.

If your levels are between 30 to 50 I see this happen in younger men.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > From: Mike L. <mikeydell25@...>

> > >

> > > > Subject: Re: Possible bad

> batch of

> > T

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Date: Sunday, September 5, 2010, 11:45 AM

> > >

> > > > Is it possible that it's CC's? That

> > >

> > > > would be my only other guess. 300cc's the

> > >

> > > > first shot and 400cc's for the last 3

> subsequent

> > > shots.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > >

> > > > From: phil <phildude43@...>

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Sent: Sun, September 5, 2010 10:16:05 AM

> > >

> > > > Subject: Re: Possible bad

> batch of

> > T

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >   

> > >

> > > > 300 mcgs is such a small dose I doubt it

> could

> > even

> > > be

> > >

> > > > measured in a syringe

> > >

> > > > even if it was extremely concentrated.It

> would

> > have

> > > no

> > >

> > > > effect on you.Somewhere

> > >

> > > > there was some miscommuncation about the

> > dosing.Phil

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > From: mikeydell25

> > <mikeydell25@...>

> > >

> > > > > > Subject: Possible

> bad

> > batch

> > > of T

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > Date: Saturday, September 4, 2010,

> 3:45

> > PM

> > >

> > > > > > My doctor gave me my fourth shot

> of

> > >

> > > > > > testosterone (400mcgs(?) in 12

> weeks

> > this

> > > past

> > >

> > > > Monday, by

> > >

> > > > > > Wednesday my left buttock was

> warm,

> > very

> > > painful

> > >

> > > > to the

> > >

> > > > > > touch and it was very difficult to

> walk

> > or

> > > even

> > >

> > > > sit. On

> > >

> > > > > > Thursday I received a call from

> his

> > office

> > >

> > > > stating that I

> > >

> > > > > > needed to talk to the doc. He told

> me

> > that

> > >

> > > > several people

> > >

> > > > > > had complained of similar symptoms

> and

> > that

> > > he

> > >

> > > > believed he

> > >

> > > > > > had a 'bad 'batch' of

> testosterone. He

> > > prescribed

> > >

> > > > Cipro and

> > >

> > > > > > said he discarded the batch but

> sent a

> > vial

> > > to a

> > >

> > > > lab for

> > >

> > > > > > testing. He said that in his 13

> years

> > of

> > >

> > > > administering shots

> > >

> > > > > > nothing like this has ever

> occurred.

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > I'm feeling slightly better

> today,

> > Saturday,

> > > but

> > >

> > > > not 100%

> > >

> > > > > > yet.

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > Has anyone here ever experienced

> > similar

> > > events

> > >

> > > > after

> > >

> > > > > > getting a shot and if so what were

> the

> > > short/long

> > >

> > > > term

> > >

> > > > > > effects if any?

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > I am relatively new to

> testosterone

> > therapy

> > > so

> > >

> > > > please

> > >

> > > > > > excuse any ignorance.

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > Thanks!

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >