Re: Cream vs Shot for Testosterone replacement

[Guest guest]

I believe it depends on how low your T is.

How old are you and post your lab work with the ranges. This is required for

someone like Phil to give you good advice on the subject matter.

I do know the cream tends to covert to Estradio more so than the shots. But I

think depending on your labs, age, lifestyle etc is the best way is best to

determine which option is best for you.

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Cream vs Shot for Testosterone replacement

Hey Group,

I'm a newby so I apologize for the redundant question. My doc gave me the

option to do testerone cream or the injection and I'm hoping to get some

opinions on the pros and cons of both. I am leaning towards the cream as it

seems to be more consistent then the injection. Any info is greatly

appreciated.

Regards,

--

Mike

[Guest guest]

What symptoms of hypogonadism are you experiencing?

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Cream vs Shot for Testosterone replacement

>

> Hey Group,

>

> I'm a newby so I apologize for the redundant question. My doc gave me the

> option to do testerone cream or the injection and I'm hoping to get some

> opinions on the pros and cons of both. I am leaning towards the cream as it

>

> seems to be more consistent then the injection. Any info is greatly

> appreciated.

>

> Regards,

>

> --

> Mike

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Did they test anything else? Especially estradiol.

Post all your lab work with the ranges.

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Cream vs Shot for Testosterone replacement

>

> Hey Group,

>

> I'm a newby so I apologize for the redundant question. My doc gave me the

> option to do testerone cream or the injection and I'm hoping to get some

> opinions on the pros and cons of both. I am leaning towards the cream as it

>

> seems to be more consistent then the injection. Any info is greatly

> appreciated.

>

> Regards,

>

> --

> Mike

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am 31 and my total testosterone is 320. I'm pretty active as well.

Thanks,

Mike

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Marc Michaud <MisterX225@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> I believe it depends on how low your T is.

>

> How old are you and post your lab work with the ranges. This is required

> for someone like Phil to give you good advice on the subject matter.

>

> I do know the cream tends to covert to Estradio more so than the shots. But

> I think depending on your labs, age, lifestyle etc is the best way is best

> to determine which option is best for you.

>

>

> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

>

> Cream vs Shot for Testosterone replacement

>

> Hey Group,

>

> I'm a newby so I apologize for the redundant question. My doc gave me the

> option to do testerone cream or the injection and I'm hoping to get some

> opinions on the pros and cons of both. I am leaning towards the cream as it

>

> seems to be more consistent then the injection. Any info is greatly

> appreciated.

>

> Regards,

>

> --

> Mike

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mike,

I started TRT with compounded T. It didn't work well for me. It may or may not

work for you. Absorption through the skin is the problem. If I were you, I'd go

with the T cypionate. With the injectable, you know it's in your body. Doseage

may then need to be adjusted.

>

> Hey Group,

>

> I'm a newby so I apologize for the redundant question. My doc gave me the

> option to do testerone cream or the injection and I'm hoping to get some

> opinions on the pros and cons of both. I am leaning towards the cream as it

> seems to be more consistent then the injection. Any info is greatly

> appreciated.

>

> Regards,

>

> --

> Mike

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Marc,

Here are my labs:

IGF -1 : 165 (115 - 307)

Total Testosterone: 347 (280 - 800)

Free Testosterone: 80.3 (35 - 155)

SHBG : 26 (8 - 48)

DHEA S : 228 (110 - 370)

Estrone: 33 (< or = 69)

Estradiol 29 (< or = 29)

Estriol <0.10 (0.2 or less)

Let me know what you think. Thanks Marc!

Mike

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Marc Michaud <MisterX225@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Did they test anything else? Especially estradiol.

>

> Post all your lab work with the ranges.

> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

>

> Cream vs Shot for Testosterone replacement

> >

> > Hey Group,

> >

> > I'm a newby so I apologize for the redundant question. My doc gave me the

>

> > option to do testerone cream or the injection and I'm hoping to get some

> > opinions on the pros and cons of both. I am leaning towards the cream as

> it

> >

> > seems to be more consistent then the injection. Any info is greatly

> > appreciated.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > --

> > Mike

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Mike,

I am 31 years old and started TRT back in November. I had testicular cancer

and lost a tesricle. For some reason or another my testosterone was 270. I

started out on Androgel and it never really boosted mt numbers. I went to

injections which I like because its only once a week and I don't have to think

about it. When you do gels and creams you have to put it on every morning.

This seems like a minor inconvience but it does get old. The shots are really

no big deal if you get a 25g or 27g needle. The only real pain is maybe a day

after you can be a little sore as if you worked out on that muscle. It sounds

like you have a good Dr. Is he a urologist?

> >

> > Hey Group,

> >

> > I'm a newby so I apologize for the redundant question. My doc gave me the

> > option to do testerone cream or the injection and I'm hoping to get some

> > opinions on the pros and cons of both. I am leaning towards the cream as it

> > seems to be more consistent then the injection. Any info is greatly

> > appreciated.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > --

> > Mike

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

If you don't have a Health Care Drug Plain and you need to pay for Androgel or

Testim your self it's the highest cost for TRT out there. If you go with a

compounded cream or gels Drug plains most don't pay for them but they cost less

and work.

But if you have a thyroid problem your skin can get thicker and the gels and

creams will not get through your skin. So if you try this get tested after your

on time 2 weeks. When we add T to the body any dose it shuts down the brain

from sending the LH and FSH messages to your testis and they shot making T. So

if the gel or cream is not getting through your skin or the dose is not enough

your levels can go up then fall back down so do check them in 2 weeks and check

Estradiol.

Shots work fine we use a smaller size needle 27g 1ml.x 1/2 " lg. and shoot into

the thigh. Some men don't stay level for the week. And you need to do your

shots every week starting with 100 mgs. We have found doing them 2x's a week or

even every 3 days keeps up leveled and holds down Estradiol levels.

Also when adding T your LH and FSH stops being sent to your body by your brain.

So adding HCG keeps them cells and your testis working. On gels or creams men

do 250 IU's every 3 days on shots they do 250 IU's the 2 days each before there

next T shot.

With men doing shots 2x's a week or every 3 days they do 250 IU's the day before

each shot.

Go to Dr. 's site www.allthingsmale.com and read TRT: A Recipe for Success

and his HCG Update. He is one of the best male hormone Dr.'s out there and puts

this on his site free for you and your Dr.

It's not hard to get leveled off all one needs to do is get there Total T levels

up into the upper 1/3 of there labs range for a young man and keep there

Estradiol levels down to between 20 to 30 pg/ml. Then go by how you feel for

your T levels.

http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=450553

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Phil

> From: Rouse <michael.hugh.rouse@...>

> Subject: Cream vs Shot for Testosterone replacement

>

> Date: Sunday, April 18, 2010, 2:01 PM

> Hey Group,

>

> I'm a newby so I apologize for the redundant

> question.  My doc gave me the

> option to do testerone cream or the injection and I'm

> hoping to get some

> opinions on the pros and cons of both. I am leaning towards

> the cream as it

> seems to be more consistent then the injection.  Any

> info is greatly

> appreciated.

>

> Regards,

>

> --

> Mike

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mike do you get involuntary nocturnal erections appear that during REM (Rapid

Eye Movement) sleep.

Or have a loss of libido and some ED problems I ask this because your Estradiol

with a SHBG of 26 could come down to about 18. And if this works your T levels

can go up some 200 to 300 Points getting Estradiol levels down. Read this link

and do you drink Soy Milk or eat a lot of Soy this is bad for men.

In this link it's about older men but I have seen this happen to younger men.

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/3/1174

http://www.medibolics.com/ArimidexBoostsTestosterone.htm

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/nov2008_Dangers-of-Excess-Estrogen-in-the-Ag\

ing-Male_01.htm

http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html

Co-Moderator

Phil

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> > >

> > >

> > > I believe it depends on how low your T is.

> > >

> > > How old are you and post your lab work with the

> ranges. This is required

> > > for someone like Phil to give you good advice on

> the subject matter.

> > >

> > > I do know the cream tends to covert to Estradio

> more so than the shots.

> > But

> > > I think depending on your labs, age, lifestyle

> etc is the best way is

> > best

> > > to determine which option is best for you.

> > >

> > >

> > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

> > >

> > > Cream vs Shot for

> Testosterone replacement

> > >

> > > Hey Group,

> > >

> > > I'm a newby so I apologize for the redundant

> question. My doc gave me the

> >

> > > option to do testerone cream or the injection and

> I'm hoping to get some

> > > opinions on the pros and cons of both. I am

> leaning towards the cream as

> > it

> > >

> > > seems to be more consistent then the injection.

> Any info is greatly

> > > appreciated.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > --

> > > Mike

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