Re: 2nd week on TRT still no libido, flushing, face feels hot.

[Guest guest]

Greg 6 what kind of test if this test is a Quest Ultra Senitive Estraidol Test

with the range of <29 don't go by it. Quest labs has a lot of problems with

this test and should stop offering it. Men are getting there labs back from

them on this test by the 100's saying there levels are <2 this is not possabe.

If your test was a Labcorp or Quest test #4029 and it says your at 6 pg/ml I

would redo it this is very hard to belive for a man not on anything to lower

Estraidol levels. Still you need to know it is very dangeris to have Estradiol

levels this low.

Still it sounds like your Estradiol levels are to high do you have night time

and morning wood if not I am betting you to high.

Here is a copy of a file I made on not going to low doing Arimidex. If your

labs come back high follow this.

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How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low.

What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your

to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to

make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on

your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I

went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or

how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low

until my next labs.

The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your

night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you

get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you

can hang a coat on it.

Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to

cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge

razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your

levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day

after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said

>90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time

and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs.

I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the

day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could

not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the

Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex

my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we

went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was

on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low

you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels

back up.

I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after

playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3

days.

So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down

so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with

lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your

lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days.

I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down

from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need

..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days.

So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this

to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading

back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets

me dose my arimidex by how I feel.

Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: fprappas <fprappas@...>

> Subject: 2nd week on TRT still no libido, flushing, face feels

hot.

>

> Date: Monday, November 1, 2010, 9:52 AM

> Hi Phil,

> 2nd week into my TRT(90mg)twice a week injections. 

> Desire is starting to come back, still no libido. 

> My face is hot and flushed, night sweats.

>

> I have not started arimidex yet because my Estradiol level

> was 6.

> Am I coverting to much into Estrogen?

> Any suggetions on what this is?

>

> Thanks,

> Greg

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Phil,

My last labs were on October 5th.  I had them done at Labcorb in Katy,

TX(Houston Area).

 

Estradiol, Sensitive   6  Range 3-70  pg/mL

Testosterone, Free and Total 332   Range  280-800 ng/dL

Free Testosterone,(Direct)     4.5    Range  6.8-21.5  pg/mL

 

Back in July my Estradiol was 7.

 

 

Could the labs be wrong?  Could I be converting to much into estrogen and

that's whats causing the flushing/heat. 

 I have not had any morning wood, no libido/erection to speak of.

Remember, I was restarting TRT after trying Gels and troche with no luck.  I

get the Testosterone compounded at a local pharmacy that uses less preservatives

and uses sesame seed oil instead of cottenseed oil.  That helps reduce the

swelling and pain.

Thanks,

Greg

 

> From: fprappas <fprappas@...>

> Subject: 2nd week on TRT still no libido, flushing, face feels

hot.

>

> Date: Monday, November 1, 2010, 9:52 AM

> Hi Phil,

> 2nd week into my TRT(90mg)twice a week injections. 

> Desire is starting to come back, still no libido. 

> My face is hot and flushed, night sweats.

>

> I have not started arimidex yet because my Estradiol level

> was 6.

> Am I coverting to much into Estrogen?

> Any suggetions on what this is?

>

> Thanks,

> Greg

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Here is what I know about going to low on Estradiol I never feel hot or sweat

but I get some ED so bad taking Viagra will not get it up and my penis in the

soft state gets very small like 1/2 " lg most of the time it will hang about 2.5

to 3 " . I also get sore joints and muscles going to low.

Now to tell if your going to low see if you can get it up if you can every half

as hard your not to low.

What you can do then is try doing labs again Estradiol levels can shoot up very

fast in 2 weeks doing shots or just try to get it down what do you have that you

can use. If you have Arimidex take .5 mgs right now see how you feel it should

work fast at this dose if you don't feel better get labs. If you do go to .25

mgs every 3 days let your levels come down slow. If your feeling better keep at

it if you don't get wood at night in 2 weeks try it every 2 days.

But do let me tell you this can happen from your testosterone levels going up

men will feel like this as there levels go up they can even get sore and hard

nipples from the Testosterone levels going up. As you get leveled this stops.

So check your self out if your to low slamming a door in will not get it up. :-(

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: fprappas <fprappas@...>

> > Subject: 2nd week on TRT still no

> libido, flushing, face feels hot.

> >

> > Date: Monday, November 1, 2010, 9:52 AM

> > Hi Phil,

> > 2nd week into my TRT(90mg)twice a week injections. 

> > Desire is starting to come back, still no libido. 

> > My face is hot and flushed, night sweats.

> >

> > I have not started arimidex yet because my Estradiol

> level

> > was 6.

> > Am I coverting to much into Estrogen?

> > Any suggetions on what this is?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Greg

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info phil.

I think your right about the estradiol shooting up to fast and I probably not

converting properly.  My joints do hurt a low levels. 

I will try the arimidex and see how it goes. 

 

How about using DIM to regulate the estrogen? What's your take on DIM?

Thanks,

Greg

>

> > From: fprappas <fprappas@...>

> > Subject: 2nd week on TRT still no

> libido, flushing, face feels hot.

> >

> > Date: Monday, November 1, 2010, 9:52 AM

> > Hi Phil,

> > 2nd week into my TRT(90mg)twice a week injections. 

> > Desire is starting to come back, still no libido. 

> > My face is hot and flushed, night sweats.

> >

> > I have not started arimidex yet because my Estradiol

> level

> > was 6.

> > Am I coverting to much into Estrogen?

> > Any suggetions on what this is?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Greg

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Indoloplex/DIM works great if your levels don't go up to high I use to us it but

after I found I feel better at higher levels of T I needed Arimidex to keep it

in check.

This brand works take one tablet at dinner time E2 goes up highest at night.

http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Pure-Rip-with-DIM-60-Tablets/12814?at=0

Also get on some Zinc I take ZMA by NOW brand at bedtime and you need to add 2

mgs of Copper at noon Zinc lowers copper. Zinc helps keep Estradiol levels down

and is good for your testis.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> >

> > > From: fprappas <fprappas@...>

> > > Subject: 2nd week on TRT still no

> > libido, flushing, face feels hot.

> > >

> > > Date: Monday, November 1, 2010, 9:52 AM

> > > Hi Phil,

> > > 2nd week into my TRT(90mg)twice a week

> injections. 

> > > Desire is starting to come back, still no

> libido. 

> > > My face is hot and flushed, night sweats.

> > >

> > > I have not started arimidex yet because my

> Estradiol

> > level

> > > was 6.

> > > Am I coverting to much into Estrogen?

> > > Any suggetions on what this is?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Greg

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >