Re: Newbie question about Androgel

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No doing this will drive your T levels lower anyway. I hope you did not start

on this yet if your Dr. did not do all the testing to find out why your low.

Can you post your labs and do go to Dr. s site www.allthingsmale.com and

read TRT: A Recipe for Success in this are labs you need and why Dr. is

about the best of the best when it come to low T in men.

Get the book Testosterone: A man's guide and read this it has everything in it I

can tell you.

http://tinyurl.com/4d23o9p

If you have a health problem that can be treated and fixed your T levels can go

back up and you will not need TRT. Here is a copy of a file I made about

starting on gels.

Here are some good links about low T so you can learn about it.

http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=450553

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autoimmune damage

tobacco and alcohol

sleep apnea

excessive heat

obesity

hypercortisolism

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Starting on Androgel or Testim.

Yes this happens a lot you start on a low starting dose 5 grams when your brain

sees the testosterone in your blood even just a little it slows down even stops

sending the LH and FSH message to your testis to make the Testosterone you were

making. So lets say your labs for Total T were 350 you add this dose of gel

your brain sees this and you lose the base level you had before the gel.

Now lets say you need more then 5 grams most do so now all your left with is

what the gel is doing so lets say it's doing 200 so you lost 150.

The reason you feel good is your levels go up that 200 the gel is doing in the

first 2 weeks so your levels go up to 550 in theory. The brain sees this and

you fall back.

Why can this happen it might be how your putting on the gel with Androgel you

need to spread it over your upper arms and shoulders and down your back as far

as you can reach this is half of your dose then do the other side. Just spread

it over the area but don't rub it in.

The other thing is it's not getting through your skin good so you need more. If

you have a thyroid problem your skin will become thicker and gels and creams

don't get through the skin and you need to switch to shots.

I tell men when they go on Gels to retest in 2 weeks because you can end up

feeling worse. Most men just need more gel. Dr.'s that tell men to go on 5

grams of gel and come back in 8 to 12 weeks for labs don't know much about the

use of gels. Dr.'s that treat a lot of men for low T on gels see this happen

and test them again in 2 weeks.

When you go to do labs get up and shower that morning go do your labs and then

put in the gel after your blood test so you don’t spike up your labs. If you

can’t do labs in the morning shower put on the gel but don’t get any gel on

the spot they take the blood from. Do your labs about 6 hrs later.

Call your Dr. and tell him this and that your not feeling good you were but fell

back.

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Phil

> From: jjmill0 <no_reply >

> Subject: Newbie question about Androgel

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> Date: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 9:18 AM

> I'm 34 and I was just prescribed

> Androgel, 4 pumps/day. Can someone explain to me why cycling

> a few days on and off of Androgel isn't recommended. 

> It would seem that this would allow my body to continue to

> provide its own supply of testosterone and then I could

> supplement it.

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> Also, I am already beginning to bald.  I have heard

> that Androgel make my hair loss worse. Is this true?

>

> Lastly, I would like to have another child.  Will

> Androgel impede this process?

>

> Thanks,

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