Re: Adrenal Fatigue/ Low Testosterone

[Guest guest]

Phil,

Is this a which comes first situation, that adrenal exhaustion " predates "

low testosterone levels?

50 mg (broken up during the day) HC is the only thing that has helped raise

my thyroid/ temperature levels even tho I had been taking Armour Thyroid

for years. I'm wondering if my adrenals need more work or if the T is

synergistic.

Thanks so much,

Sly

In a message dated 5/20/2010 3:25:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

pmgamer18@... writes:

<< Men with Adrenal Fatigue end up with low Testosterone.>>

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: <chrisjtaylor46@...>

> Subject: Re: New here with results, looking for advice

(in the UK)

>

> Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 2:07 PM

> Hi again

>

> Sorry another question please

>

> I have been in contact with an endo who says he calculates

> my free T as being borderline low, and he says this could be

> caused by being overweight too.

>

> Is this a chicken and egg thing though - i mean, is it that

> i could have had low T and then that caused the weight to

> pile on and then this suppressed T even further?

>

> I have been on low dose hydrocortisone for just over a year

> - 5-10 mg a day. At the time of my first test when the

> results showed up as being 9.2 mmol/l i was on more

> like 20mg of hydrocortisone, if not

> 30mg. So going from 20 to 10 (say) has

> hardly had any difference on my T levels (9.2 to 10.7)

> . As these are still physiological doses of

> hydrocortisone, am i right in thinking that it wouldn't

> suppress T much? The hydrocortisone was to help me

> function with adrenal fatigue and that is much better now.

>

> I have had a varicocele since age 15, i read this could

> lower T levels too?

>

> My problems with fatigue and depression became much worse

> at age 30 after a period of stress and several colds on the

> trot. i wonder if borderline low T levels at the time

> then just got lower with stress and caused all kinds of

> problems?

>

>

> Thanks

>

> Chris

>

>

>

>

> >

> > > From: <chrisjtaylor46@...>

> > > Subject: New here with results,

> looking for advice (in the UK)

> > >

> > > Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 4:04 AM

> > > Hello

> > >

> > > I am new here, I am wondering if I could get some

> advice

> > > please on my results and to see if they indicate

> low

> > > testosterone levels worthy of being treated?

> > >

> > > I am male 31, 5 ft 11, about 260lbs

> (overweight).

> > > These results were taken last week at about

> 9.40am.

> > >

> > > Serum Testosterone: 10.7 mmol/L range 7.6 -

> > > 31.4

> > > Serum TSH (thyroid) 0.57 miu/L range 0.3

> > > - 4.2

> > > Serum FSH level 2.5 iu/L

> > > male range: 1.5-12.4 iu/L

> > > Serum LH level 2.2 iu/L

> > > range 1.7 - 8.6

> > > Serum SHBG 18

> > > nmol/l range 15-64

> > >

> > > Also I had a test last year and the results were

> about 9.2

> > > mmol/L. A free saliva testosterone test about 4

> weeks

> > > ago showed my free saliva testosterone levels

> were 72.9

> > > pg/mL range 70-250 pg/mL.

> > >

> > > To me these results sound low but my doctor says

> they are

> > > normal. They are i suppose low normal.

> > >

> > > Should i treat at these levels? If there is

> anyone

> > > here in the UK, have they been treated on the NHS

> with these

> > > levels?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Chris

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

You need Cortisol to carry the thyroid hormone out of your blood in to your

cells adding HC helps this. So your Temps will come up adding HC. Most men on

TRT have bad Adreanls what came first is not going to help one needs to replace

the Testosterone when low or the Adreanls will get worse. So now your stuck on

TRT and HC maybe for life. I just posted to a new member just before this on

read it it's full of info that will help you.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: Chris  <chrisjtaylor46@...>

> > Subject: Re: New  here with

> results, looking for advice

> (in the UK)

> > To: 

> > Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 2:07  PM

> > Hi again

> >

> > Sorry another question please

> > 

> > I have been in contact with an endo who says he

> calculates

> > my  free T as being borderline low, and he says

> this could be

> > caused by  being overweight too. 

> >

> > Is this a chicken and egg thing  though - i mean,

> is it that

> > i could have had low T and then that  caused the

> weight to

> > pile on and then this suppressed T even 

> further?

> >

> > I have been on low dose hydrocortisone for just

> over  a year

> > - 5-10 mg a day.  At the time of my first test

> when  the

> > results showed up as being 9.2 mmol/l  i was on

> more

> >  like 20mg of hydrocortisone, if not

> > 30mg.   So going  from 20 to 10

> (say) has

> > hardly had any difference on my T levels (9.2  to

> 10.7)

> > .  As these are still physiological doses of

> >  hydrocortisone, am i right in thinking that it

> wouldn't

> > suppress T  much?  The hydrocortisone was to

> help me

> > function with adrenal  fatigue and that is much

> better now.

> >

> > I have had a varicocele  since age 15, i read

> this could

> > lower T levels too?

> >

> >  My problems with fatigue and depression became

> much worse

> > at age 30  after a period of stress and several

> colds on the

> > trot.  i wonder  if borderline low T levels

> at the time

> > then just got lower with stress  and caused all

> kinds of

> > problems?

> >

> >

> >  Thanks

> >

> > Chris

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > >  From: Chris

> <chrisjtaylor46@...>

> > > > Subject:  New here with

> results,

> > looking for advice (in the  UK)

> > > >

> > > >  Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 4:04 AM

> > > > Hello

> > >  >

> > > > I am new here, I am wondering if I could

> get  some

> > advice

> > > > please on my results and to see if

> they  indicate

> > low

> > > > testosterone levels worthy of being 

> treated?

> > > >

> > > > I am male 31, 5 ft 11, about  260lbs

> > (overweight).

> > > > These results were taken  last week at

> about

> > 9.40am. 

> > > >

> > > >  Serum Testosterone: 10.7 mmol/L 

>   range 7.6 -

> > > >  31.4

> > > > Serum TSH (thyroid) 0.57  miu/L 

>   range  0.3

> > > > - 4.2

> > > > Serum FSH level   2.5 iu/L

> > > >    male range: 1.5-12.4 iu/L

> > > > Serum LH  level      2.2

> iu/L   

> > > >  range 1.7 - 8.6 

> > > > Serum SHBG   18

> > > > nmol/l       range

> 15-64

> > > >

> > > > Also I had a test last year  and the

> results were

> > about 9.2

> > > > mmol/L.  A free  saliva

> testosterone test about 4

> > weeks

> > > > ago showed my  free saliva testosterone

> levels

> > were 72.9

> > > > pg/mL  range 70-250 pg/mL.

> > > >

> > > > To me these results  sound low but my

> doctor says

> > they are

> > > > normal.   They are i suppose

> low normal.

> > > >

> > > > Should i  treat at these levels? 

> If there is

> > anyone

> > > > here  in the UK, have they been treated

> on the NHS

> > with these

> > >  > levels?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > 

> > > > Chris

> > > >

> > > >

> > >  >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > 

> > > >