Re: Increased Body temperature

[Guest guest]

I doubt it, for the reason I was in dry or wet heat saunas when I didn't

know I had Lyme and nothing ever happened for my symptoms.

[Guest guest]

Hi heidi,

I've haven't been in a sauna in years, so can't give feedback on that, except

that my ND/naturopath told me if I try it to drink lots of water during and

after. I did find relief from a hot tub in a last big flare-up I had (my ND

also told me I wouldn't have the dehydration issues with a hot tub that I would

have with a sauna). I think that killed off spirochetes in the muscles where

the Lyme was flaring. Too avoid too much overheating, I alternated with walking

in a swimming pool for short periods of time. I did this daily for close to a

week. The only drawback is if, like me, you don't like chemicals like

chlorine, etc. (or can't take them at all). I was desperate, though, and it

helped.

I, too, have a hard time with summer heat (and humidity). I get overheated,

red inthe face, my heart rate goes up, I feel faint at times, and I get awful

headaches. It's like my body does not regulate it's temp well. And maybe it's

an instant herx (?).

I asked my llmd some time ago about that malaria treatment. I'm sorry I don't

remember exactly what he said. I think he said it's not done anymore, and I'm

pretty sure he said it was very risky.

It occurred to me one could take a plane to S. America and hang out in a

tropical/malaria zone without bug spray, get lots of mosquito bites, and fly

back

home in time for treatment! (just fantasizing :-) But then I read about all

the other diseases insects carry there and that blew that idea totally out of

the water. Oh, the things we do for Lyme… the things we do for Lyme ('like

walkin' in the rain and the snow when there's no where to go… " - 'remember

that

song?)

Ann

In a message dated 12/26/06 4:05:38 PM, bunnibaby29@... writes:

> I have thought about joining the YMCA to use their dry heat room, to

> experiment with increasing my body temp for not only detoxing but also

> in hopes of an increased temp killing off spirocetes. does anyone

> really think that I could be killing off spirocetes too by using this

> method? I've used the dry heat room before and my muscles relaxed and

> my pain joint/muscle melted away. Of course pain later returns, but a

> few minutes of relief is nice. I've noticed that I can't stay in for

> very long because my heart beat increases too much and I start to feel

> faint. I noticed some of you talking about the heat affecting your

> hearts as well. I have also experienced heart racing/weakness in the

> shower from time to time especially on bad days. I always assumed it

> was just fatigue causing the shower problem. maybe there is more to it

> than just that, i don't know. I have a really hard time in the summer

> heat which I 've heard has been a problem for alot of Lymies. Is this

> in relation to body temp rise too maybe? Anyway, has anyone ever heard

> of Dr. Heimlich's method, malariotherapy, which uses malaria induced

> fevers to kill cancer and Lymes? Very extreme, I know. Not planning on

> trying it myself, just thought I'd ask since we were on the topic of

> increasing Body temp. heidi

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ann,

Thanks for responding. The only thing I know about Dr. Heimlich's

Malariotherapy is that the FDA recently rejected his proposal to run

malriotherapy studies in the US using human subjects, mainly HIV

patients. From what I've read they use a much milder and curable form

of malaria. I wasn't aware there was a curable form of malaria. I

only thought it was treatable with quinine. The greatest risk, in my

opinion would be the fevers. If they get too high, brain damage and

even death can occur. I assume they have methods to control this, but

I still agree with your doc that it's risky. From what I also read,

Hemlich still has malariotherapy clinics in Mexico, however there is

nothing on the internet about their whereabouts or about them period.

I suppose one could contact the Heimlich Institute and ask. I was

feeling really desparate when I was researching malariotherapy on the

internet until I started improving on Buhner's protocol. I am much

more comfortable with the risks I am taking with herbs than I would

be with malariotherapy. Anyway, thanks for your input about hottubs.

I still plan to implement some form of heat to my regimen. Heidi

[Guest guest]

Heidi,

Congratulations on finding some improvement from the herbals! (me too :-)

It's good to hear of others getting positive results.

Let me know what you do for heat and how it works (especially if it helps

with muscle tension).

Ann

In a message dated 12/31/06 3:07:04 AM, bunnibaby29@... writes:

> I was feeling really desparate when I was researching malariotherapy on the

> internet until I started improving on Buhner's protocol. I am much

> more comfortable with the risks I am taking with herbs than I would

> be with malariotherapy. Anyway, thanks for your input about hottubs.

> I still plan to implement some form of heat to my regimen.

>