Jaw pain

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In a message dated 2/1/99 9:46:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,

RU42354@... writes:

<< I hope we can spend a few posts on our experience

with jaw pain as I had it and was dx'ed with RA of the jaw.

So do we know how to delineate RA from teeth clenching. >>

I don't have RA, so I'm not sure, but I can tell you I clench my teeth because

the four that hit the most are almost flat. Clenching and grinding all night

wears those buggers down! The nite splint is a plastic fitted piece that goes

on your upper teeth so when you clench you don't hit tooth-to-tooth. It's

supposed to " break " the clenching habit, therefore decreasing the pain of

those muscles working all night long.

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Hi all, I have to pass this info on for you on jaw pain!

I had chronic jaw pain which included ear ache and it got to the stage no

one could do anything with it so Morphine was the go! I was in a lot of

pain!

I finally found a chinese doc who manipulated the jaw muscles including

those in the back of my throat and in the first visit had stopped the pain

to a manageable level and in the second visit I had it no longer. He also

used ultrsound on the part where the jaw bones move from.

Each time now it starts to even get stiff I massage all the muscles on both

the outside and the inside and it has never been as bad!

Hope this is of some help.

ra Jan 97 ap May 98

Townsville Australia

jamulder@...

http://www.ultra.net.au/~jamulder/

rheumatic Re: Jaw Pain

>From: DMBGone@...

>

>In a message dated 2/1/99 9:46:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>RU42354@... writes:

><< I hope we can spend a few posts on our experience

>with jaw pain as I had it and was dx'ed with RA of the jaw.

>So do we know how to delineate RA from teeth clenching. >>

>I don't have RA, so I'm not sure, but I can tell you I clench my teeth

because

>the four that hit the most are almost flat. Clenching and grinding all

night

>wears those buggers down! The nite splint is a plastic fitted piece that

goes

>on your upper teeth so when you clench you don't hit tooth-to-tooth. It's

>supposed to " break " the clenching habit, therefore decreasing the pain of

>those muscles working all night long.

>

>

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:

Regarding your jaw pain, it is arthritis and about the only thing is pain

meds. I used to have it so bad also. Now I just cannot chew gum. I learned

a method of applying heat from my other group. They are called rice socks.

Just take a sock and fill it with rice and sew up the end of it. When you

need heat treatments pop the sock into the microwave for about three minutes

and it puts out moist heat. It works wonders. Try that on your jaw.

Jeannette

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Hi to you today:

I read your email about jaw pain. I you sure it is from arthritis or could

you have TMJ. I had TMJ the same time I had arthritis and I had to see a

dentist for an apparatus to wear while I slept. It took a little while but

that was the only way it would clear up. You should see a dentist, he would

take xrays to tell if it is TMJ.

Good luck and keep in touch.

Sincerely,

Anjillah@...

[Guest guest]

Hello. I would definitely get a second opinion, if possible from an ear nose

and throat Dr., TN, your first diagnosis is usually chronic. It is worse than

TMJ. You usually are treated with the drug he recommended and pain

medication. It is very painful. As for the abscessed tooth you should have

had an x-ray unless there was an obvious abscess on your gum. If there is you

would know it, you would be able to feel it. I agree with your husband get a

third opinion. Good luck,

[Guest guest]

: Sorry to hear you are having such a hard

time...hope the docs get to the bottom of of it....and

sweetie rest the dishes will wait ...stuff like that

usually does...the rest is more important right

now....

Kathi in OK

--- <linda@...> wrote:

> Hi all,

> Just an update on my jaw pain. I went to the

> walk-in clinic on Thursday evening because my face

> started going numb on my right side where the pain

> was. The doctor who examined me decided I had

> " Trigeminal Neuralgia " . He said it would go away on

> it's own, but is very painful. If it would not go

> away on it's own, they could put me on tegitrol.

> Because of the pain I was in, he offered to put me

> on it right away, but with the side effects I

> decided not to.

>

> Went to work the next day and by 11:30 my right side

> of the face was puffy. I left work early and went

> home to lay down. By 3, my face was really looking

> bad. Larry took me to the walk-in clinic again (all

> of my doctors were gone). Now they believe that I

> have an absessed tooth. I ended up with 2 shots of

> an antibiotic and a perscription. He also told me

> that I can take two of the pain pills every 4 hours

> and I can also take advil if needed.

>

> My husband is not impressed with either of the

> doctors, he's still not sure he agrees with the

> latest diagnosis. No tests or xrays were done at

> all. I figure I will give this until Tuesday, if

> things are not better by then, I will get in to see

> my regular doctor. At least my right cheek isn't as

> red as it was yesturday and I feel a little better

> today. I spent most of my day yesturday in

> bed....it was not a good day. Didn't go to church

> today...I look like Larry hit me, even though I'm

> not black and blue. I am feeling a little better

> today so I hope to get some things done around here

> - you should see the mound of dishes I have in the

> sink and on the floor! YUCK!!!

>

> Take care and love to all.

>

> in Minnesota

> linda@...

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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<PRE>linda how horrible. i hope they can find some answers soon. don't overdo

it.

try and rest. my thoughts and prayers are with you. kathy in il

[Guest guest]

, I'm not sure I'd wait until Tuesday. Why not call your regular

doctor and/or dentist today and see what they think is going on? I'm

really sorry that you are in so much pain.

The swelling you describe is a big concern. Please call.

Don't worry about the dishes!

[ ] jaw pain

> Hi all,

> Just an update on my jaw pain. I went to the walk-in clinic on

Thursday evening because my face started going numb on my right side

where the pain was. The doctor who examined me decided I had

" Trigeminal Neuralgia " . He said it would go away on it's own, but is

very painful. If it would not go away on it's own, they could put me on

tegitrol. Because of the pain I was in, he offered to put me on it

right away, but with the side effects I decided not to.

>

> Went to work the next day and by 11:30 my right side of the face was

puffy. I left work early and went home to lay down. By 3, my face was

really looking bad. Larry took me to the walk-in clinic again (all of

my doctors were gone). Now they believe that I have an absessed tooth.

I ended up with 2 shots of an antibiotic and a perscription. He also

told me that I can take two of the pain pills every 4 hours and I can

also take advil if needed.

>

> My husband is not impressed with either of the doctors, he's still not

sure he agrees with the latest diagnosis. No tests or xrays were done

at all. I figure I will give this until Tuesday, if things are not

better by then, I will get in to see my regular doctor. At least my

right cheek isn't as red as it was yesturday and I feel a little better

today. I spent most of my day yesturday in bed....it was not a good

day. Didn't go to church today...I look like Larry hit me, even though

I'm not black and blue. I am feeling a little better today so I hope to

get some things done around here - you should see the mound of dishes I

have in the sink and on the floor! YUCK!!!

>

> Take care and love to all.

>

> in Minnesota

> linda@...

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In a message dated 02/03/2004 09:16:55 Central Standard Time,

ruf-caimi@... writes:

> Hi,

> Has anyone suffered pain in their jaw right by their ears. I am

> having a lot of pain with this. I know the ra is in my jaw but now it

> is really painful. It is very hard to chew but since my diet is so

> limited it is not a really big deal when it comes to chewing. Maybe it

> is time for the rice sock. That has helped before. But I was just

> wondering if anyone else had it bother their ear.

> Thanks,

> Lynn (MeMom)

>

>

Hi Lynn

That could be that TMJ problem. Temporal mandibular joint, I think.

Anyways, where your jaws connect it doesn't match up quite right, so gives pain,

can

be jaw pain, ear pain, and terrible headaches. Can you go to a dentist to be

evaluated? Cary

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Hi Lynn, my niece in Ohio had this problem and eventually had to go to a dentist

to have the jaw injected. Although this is a difficult place to reach since it

is done inside the mouth and my niece told me it was very painful, she has never

had the pain come back and that was 3 years ago. Don't want to scare you but I

couldn't not tell you. Ruth said after going through so much pain to the point

she could hardly open her mouth to put food in, let alone chew, she would have

it done again.

Hugs

June

----- Original Message -----

From: Ruf-Caimi

Hi,

Has anyone suffered pain in their jaw right by their ears. I am

having a lot of pain with this. I know the ra is in my jaw but now it

is really painful. It is very hard to chew but since my diet is so

limited it is not a really big deal when it comes to chewing. Maybe it

is time for the rice sock. That has helped before. But I was just

wondering if anyone else had it bother their ear.

Thanks,

Lynn (MeMom)

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn,....I had this problem about four years ago, before being

diagnosed with RA. I worked the midnight shift, it came on just all

of a sudden, and by the time I got home, I was crying. I was in so

much pain, I can still remember it today. I went to a ear specialist

and he told me I had TMJ. He also asked if I chewed gum, which I did

quite a bit at the time. He gave me some pain med, I believe

Tylenol, and I quit chewing gum, and never had the problem again. I

had pain in the ear area, and I thought I had problems with my ear,

but it wasn't. Take care, and I hope you feel better soon, Tawny

PS:you might try a heating pad, that helped me quite a bit

I do think it might have something to do with RA, don't you. He was

an ear specialist, and didn't know I had RA. He told me if I didn't

quit chewing gum, I could get arthritis in my jaw, can you

imagine,lol Just a thought,....

--- In , Ruf-Caimi <ruf-caimi@e...>

wrote:

> Hi,

> Has anyone suffered pain in their jaw right by their ears. I am

> having a lot of pain with this. I know the ra is in my jaw but now

it

> is really painful. It is very hard to chew but since my diet is so

> limited it is not a really big deal when it comes to chewing.

Maybe it

> is time for the rice sock. That has helped before. But I was just

> wondering if anyone else had it bother their ear.

> Thanks,

> Lynn (MeMom)

[Guest guest]

I had this problem last year. It was very painful and made it difficult

to eat. I had just recently started on Enbrel and figured that it

should help the TMJ if it was caused by RA. Eventually, it did help,

and thankfully, it didn't take very long.

I remember a had an awful time with TMJ. a, is it better?

Sue

On Tuesday, March 2, 2004, at 10:15 AM, Ruf-Caimi wrote:

> Has anyone suffered pain in their jaw right by their ears. I am

> having a lot of pain with this. I know the ra is in my jaw but now it

> is really painful. It is very hard to chew but since my diet is so

> limited it is not a really big deal when it comes to chewing. Maybe it

> is time for the rice sock. That has helped before. But I was just

> wondering if anyone else had it bother their ear.

> Thanks,

> Lynn (MeMom)

[Guest guest]

Hi Cary,

Thank you for your help. I think you are right. After I read what you

wrote I

remember I did talk to the dentist about it some months ago. I have to have a

lot of

dental work done so maybe I can bring it up then.

Thank You,

(MeMom)

Birdijo@... wrote:

> In a message dated 02/03/2004 09:16:55 Central Standard Time,

> ruf-caimi@... writes:

>

> > Hi,

> > Has anyone suffered pain in their jaw right by their ears. I am

> > having a lot of pain with this. I know the ra is in my jaw but now it

> > is really painful. It is very hard to chew but since my diet is so

> > limited it is not a really big deal when it comes to chewing. Maybe it

> > is time for the rice sock. That has helped before. But I was just

> > wondering if anyone else had it bother their ear.

> > Thanks,

> > Lynn (MeMom)

> >

> >

>

> Hi Lynn

> That could be that TMJ problem. Temporal mandibular joint, I think.

> Anyways, where your jaws connect it doesn't match up quite right, so gives

pain, can

> be jaw pain, ear pain, and terrible headaches. Can you go to a dentist to be

> evaluated? Cary

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi June,

The injection doesn't sound like funny but right now I would do almost

anything. I started watching my grandchildren and it has throw me in a bad

flare. I am trying to work with it all. I am going to ask the Rheumy about the

jaw on Monday. I do have a dental appointment for the end of March. Thank you

for your help, I appreciate everything. How are you feeling?

Lynn (MeMom)

June Dixon wrote:

> Hi Lynn, my niece in Ohio had this problem and eventually had to go to a

dentist to have the jaw injected. Although this is a difficult place to reach

since it is done inside the mouth and my niece told me it was very painful, she

has never had the pain come back and that was 3 years ago. Don't want to scare

you but I couldn't not tell you. Ruth said after going through so much pain to

the point she could hardly open her mouth to put food in, let alone chew, she

would have it done again.

>

> Hugs

> June

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Ruf-Caimi

>

> Hi,

> Has anyone suffered pain in their jaw right by their ears. I am

> having a lot of pain with this. I know the ra is in my jaw but now it

> is really painful. It is very hard to chew but since my diet is so

> limited it is not a really big deal when it comes to chewing. Maybe it

> is time for the rice sock. That has helped before. But I was just

> wondering if anyone else had it bother their ear.

> Thanks,

> Lynn (MeMom)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Thank you for your note. I never chew gum, right now I think that

would hurt to much. I made a rice sock and the heat felt good. I am

hoping it all settles down in a couple of days. I see the Rheumy on

Monday, so I will see what he says.

Thanks again for your help,

Lynn (MeMom)

Tawny wrote:

> Hi Lynn,....I had this problem about four years ago, before being

> diagnosed with RA. I worked the midnight shift, it came on just all

> of a sudden, and by the time I got home, I was crying. I was in so

> much pain, I can still remember it today. I went to a ear specialist

> and he told me I had TMJ. He also asked if I chewed gum, which I did

> quite a bit at the time. He gave me some pain med, I believe

> Tylenol, and I quit chewing gum, and never had the problem again. I

> had pain in the ear area, and I thought I had problems with my ear,

> but it wasn't. Take care, and I hope you feel better soon, Tawny

> PS:you might try a heating pad, that helped me quite a bit

> I do think it might have something to do with RA, don't you. He was

> an ear specialist, and didn't know I had RA. He told me if I didn't

> quit chewing gum, I could get arthritis in my jaw, can you

> imagine,lol Just a thought,....

>

>

> > Hi,

> > Has anyone suffered pain in their jaw right by their ears. I am

> > having a lot of pain with this. I know the ra is in my jaw but now

> it

> > is really painful. It is very hard to chew but since my diet is so

> > limited it is not a really big deal when it comes to chewing.

> Maybe it

> > is time for the rice sock. That has helped before. But I was just

> > wondering if anyone else had it bother their ear.

> > Thanks,

> > Lynn (MeMom)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Your right Sue, a had a terrible time with TMJ. I just wish the TMJ and

Ra would all settle down. I have been trying to go for walks, plus watch my

grandchildren. Ages 6, 1, 5weeks, I just have to get use to babysitting.

Thank you for your note. I hope you are doing well.

Lynn (MeMom)

Sue wrote:

> I had this problem last year. It was very painful and made it difficult

> to eat. I had just recently started on Enbrel and figured that it

> should help the TMJ if it was caused by RA. Eventually, it did help,

> and thankfully, it didn't take very long.

>

> I remember a had an awful time with TMJ. a, is it better?

>

> Sue

>

> On Tuesday, March 2, 2004, at 10:15 AM, Ruf-Caimi wrote:

> > Has anyone suffered pain in their jaw right by their ears. I am

> > having a lot of pain with this. I know the ra is in my jaw but now it

> > is really painful. It is very hard to chew but since my diet is so

> > limited it is not a really big deal when it comes to chewing. Maybe it

> > is time for the rice sock. That has helped before. But I was just

> > wondering if anyone else had it bother their ear.

> > Thanks,

> > Lynn (MeMom)

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 04/03/2004 20:17:48 Central Standard Time,

ruf-caimi@... writes:

>

> Hi Cary,

> Thank you for your help.

You are welcome! It's funny-have you ever seen so many TMJ emails in your

life? :>) Cary

[Guest guest]

Hi Cary,

I was surprised at all the notes. It is nice to know that so many people

care. I saw the Rheumy today. Seems to be a combination of TJM and the RA.

He wants me to up the metho.. I was a little unhappy with him, because he

didn't seem to interested in what I was saying. This is very odd for him, he

usually cares a lot. Maybe it was just an off day.

Lynn

Birdijo@... wrote:

> In a message dated 04/03/2004 20:17:48 Central Standard Time,

> ruf-caimi@... writes:

>

> >

> > Hi Cary,

> > Thank you for your help.

>

> You are welcome! It's funny-have you ever seen so many TMJ emails in your

> life? :>) Cary

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 08/03/2004 18:10:13 Central Standard Time,

ruf-caimi@... writes:

> I was a little unhappy with him, because he

> didn't seem to interested in what I was saying. This is very odd for him,

> he

> usually cares a lot. Maybe it was just an off day.

>

Hi Lynn-

I get that feeling with mine at times, too. It's frustrating, because on one

hand, he's human and should be allowed to have an off day, on the other hand,

NOT DURING MY APPT! lol...........I find my rheumy's attention is worst

during a " pain " conversation. And my rheumy is highly recommended in this area!

Thank goodness my regular doc is more compassionate about such things.

Cary

[Guest guest]

Your right the Rheumy has the right to have a bad day, but hopefully not on my

shift. Anyway I am not too upset about it all. He is a wonderful doctor. I

just

hope it doesn't happen again. Maybe it was the pain thing, my RA has been a lot

worse. Possibly he was hoping not to hear that. Like you I have a wonderful

primary. I am always afraid he is going to retire. I started going to him over

40

years ago, so we are also friends. We email jokes to each other. Right now I

am

not helping the RA. I have been trying to go for walks and I have been watching

my

grandchildren. Just something I have to get use to and do. Hope you are having

a

good day.

Thanks you for your note,

Lynn

Birdijo@... wrote:

> In a message dated 08/03/2004 18:10:13 Central Standard Time,

> ruf-caimi@... writes:

>

> > I was a little unhappy with him, because he

> > didn't seem to interested in what I was saying. This is very odd for him,

> > he

> > usually cares a lot. Maybe it was just an off day.

> >

>

> Hi Lynn-

> I get that feeling with mine at times, too. It's frustrating, because on one

> hand, he's human and should be allowed to have an off day, on the other hand,

> NOT DURING MY APPT! lol...........I find my rheumy's attention is worst

> during a " pain " conversation. And my rheumy is highly recommended in this

area!

> Thank goodness my regular doc is more compassionate about such things.

> Cary

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/03/2004 07:24:35 Central Standard Time,

ruf-caimi@... writes:

> Hope you are having a

> good day.

> Thanks you for your note,

> Lynn

>

Thanks, Lynn! same to you! Cary

[Guest guest]

It happened to me. However, I don't know if it was from the RA. Now that I

think about it, it could have been. Anyway, I went to the dentist and he made

me the appliance and I wore it at night for 3 Months and it worked. The pain

finally went away and has never come back.

Sincerely, Colletti

[Guest guest]

Hi Renate, I also have the jaw pain from time to time. I was told it

is called,(TMJ) temporomandibular joint, which is a form of arthritis.

--- In , " renate dorsey " <renate220@b...>

wrote:

> I would like to know if any of you have jaw pain from RA? About 5

hours ago my left side of my jaw started hurting and it hurts all the

way into my ear. It hurts to move my mouth or swallow. I wear

dentures and don't know if this is from them or the RA. I have never

had this happen before.

>

> Thanks

> Renate

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I did, but just for a brief time, thank goodness. I had always

wondered what TMJ was. Well, I found out. It's not any fun at all! The

jaw is after all a joint. Eventually, my meds made the pain go away.

Sue

On Tuesday, July 27, 2004, at 10:06 PM, renate dorsey wrote:

> I would like to know if any of you have jaw pain from RA? About 5

> hours ago my left side of my jaw started hurting and it hurts all the

> way into my ear. It hurts to move my mouth or swallow. I wear dentures

> and don't know if this is from them or the RA. I have never had this

> happen before.

[Guest guest]

Thanks

God bless

Renate

Re: [ ] Jaw pain

> Yes, I did, but just for a brief time, thank goodness. I had always

> wondered what TMJ was. Well, I found out. It's not any fun at all! The

> jaw is after all a joint. Eventually, my meds made the pain go away.

> Sue

>

> On Tuesday, July 27, 2004, at 10:06 PM, renate dorsey wrote:

>

> > I would like to know if any of you have jaw pain from RA? About 5

> > hours ago my left side of my jaw started hurting and it hurts all the

> > way into my ear. It hurts to move my mouth or swallow. I wear dentures

> > and don't know if this is from them or the RA. I have never had this

> > happen before.

>

>

>

>

>