Jaw pain

[Guest guest]

I too have had this and really badly about 18 months ago I could barely open

my mouth the joint kept clicking and I was in agony with the pain,

periodically it comes back but not so badly. My doctor gave me a course of

anti inflammatories which I cannot take long term as I have had duodenal

ulcers in the past but I took them short term with Zoton and they calmed the

inflammation down. It was really unpleasant.

Judith

[ ] Re: Jaw pain

> Hi Renate, I also have the jaw pain from time to time. I was told it

> is called,(TMJ) temporomandibular joint, which is a form of arthritis.

>

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>

> > I would like to know if any of you have jaw pain from RA? About 5

> hours ago my left side of my jaw started hurting and it hurts all the

> way into my ear. It hurts to move my mouth or swallow. I wear

> dentures and don't know if this is from them or the RA. I have never

> had this happen before.

> >

[Guest guest]

I know I'm a little late on this but I'm a lurker and don't usually

post. This is an area that I felt some of my biggest frustration

since I was diagnosed with RA 7 months ago. The area where my

biggest flare ups would happen is my jaw. I was the same and

couldn't eat, chew, etc. I kept telling my rheumy and he basically

ignored it! (don't worry, currently in the process of trying to find

a new rheumy who will pay attention)

I asked my dentist one day when I was in for a cleaning and he said I

do have TMJ and fitted me for a bite guard. That has helped a lot.

Apparently, if your teeth do not align perfectly then while you sleep

your jaw will continue to grind until it feels that they are

aligned. Usually the only way this happens naturally is to wear your

teeth down to a dangerous level. In the meantime, you put so much

stress on your jaw muscles that someone without RA would be in pain.

Ours is magnified! The bite guard acts as an artificial filler of

sorts and helps to line up your teeth. With it in we don't put as

much stress on the muscle. If the guard doesn't work then yes,

surgery is one of the next steps but for many people the guard is

enough.

Also, I saw that someone suggested not chewing gum, sticking to soft

foods or liquids when it flares and basically treating it tenderly

like any of our other joints that hurt. Sounds like good advice to

me!

Hope this helps some!

XOXO

Cat

--- In , " renate dorsey " <renate220@b...>

wrote:

> I would like to know if any of you have jaw pain from RA? > Thanks

> Renate

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know, I quit about 5 yrs ago also and am an avid chewer! It was

hard to stop!!!

[Guest guest]

I don't know what I'd do if I couldn't chew gum! This is what I do

since I quit smoking about 10 years ago. But when I had TMJ for that

thankfully brief period, I had to give it up, LOL. Sue

On Wednesday, July 28, 2004, at 06:44 PM, wrote:

>

> Also, I saw that someone suggested not chewing gum, sticking to soft

> foods or liquids when it flares and basically treating it tenderly

> like any of our other joints that hurt. Sounds like good advice to

> me!

[Guest guest]

That's one of the strangest things about this disease in my

opinion... the way the pain and inflammation move about. When I was

first diagnosed at 16 it only afflicted my left foot and ankle. The

" flare " lasted forever... at least it seemed that way at the time.

Now that it has come out of remission a zillion years later it hit me

in my knees and hands... strange. It's been two years since it came

back and just recently has popped up in my left foot and ankle again.

and Vera, you seem to be so supportive to each other... a great

example of marriage. How long have you been married?

Take Care everyone,

Sam

On Jun 18, 2005, at 2:28 AM, and Vera Penick wrote:

> My husband, who has had RA for over 40 years, used to call me from his

> office and ask what we were having for dinner. Then he would tell

> me that

> his jaw was painful and due to swelling he could not close his

> teeth and

> needed something to eat that was soft and easy to chew. The RA

> seems to

> have 'burned its self out' in that area and he hasn't mentioned it

> in a long

> time.

>

> I don't have RA but I have Osteo arthritis in my neck, hands and toes.

> Occasionally one side of my jaw will be painful but I never

> remember to ask

> the Rheumatoligist if that could be Osteo. It was so painful once

> that I

> went to the dentist thinking I had a tooth infection. X-rays did

> not show

> any problem.

>

> Vera in Central Fla.

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[Guest guest]

G'Day, in regards to the jaw pain. I have suffered with jaw pain

for over 20 years. I have Trigeminal Nueritis. It is a big nerve

connected to the 5th cervical vertabrae and runs up next to the

Temporal Mandibular joint(TMJ) I have had 3 surgeries and the pain

with out meds is unbearable.I have RA found out in sept 2002 weather

that has been caused by RA is not known.........Skye

> My husband, who has had RA for over 40 years, used to call me from

his

> office and ask what we were having for dinner. Then he would tell

me that

> his jaw was painful and due to swelling he could not close his

teeth and

> needed something to eat that was soft and easy to chew. The RA

seems to

> have 'burned its self out' in that area and he hasn't mentioned it

in a long

> time.

>

> I don't have RA but I have Osteo arthritis in my neck, hands and

toes.

> Occasionally one side of my jaw will be painful but I never

remember to ask

> the Rheumatoligist if that could be Osteo. It was so painful once

that I

> went to the dentist thinking I had a tooth infection. X-rays did

not show

> any problem.

>

> Vera in Central Fla.

>

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[Guest guest]

has RA and when we lived in northern Arizona, where it is cold in the

winter, he would sometimes call me from work and ask me to have something

soft for dinner as his jaw joints were swollen and it was hard for him to

chew. I have OA and sometimes my jaws get painful. I never chew gum for

fear of making my jaws hurt.

Vera

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Lynn ~

When I had my heart attack I had what felt like a bat hit me across my left jaw................I had gotten up to pee in the middle of the night, and it happened while I was walking into the bathroom. NO chest pain at all, no numbness in my arm ..........no other symptoms. I would bet yours is TMJ from everything you have been through. I am only telling you this because I want you to be very aware, heart attacks in women are different and there may be no chest pain or anything related to what you would think would be heart related. I believe that relaxing best you can and some jaw massage like Lynda said would be good for you. I was told from my orthapedic that ice was always better to reduce inflammation as heat would feel good but increase inflammation. Hope you feel better ! !

Love, Hugs, and Prayers

DedeSee what's free at AOL.com.

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Lynn,

I get this from stress. Can you open your jaw

part way and massage deep in your cheek where the

joint is. That helps me a lot.

Lynda

At 08:59 AM 4/20/2007, you wrote:

>Good morning all,

>

>I am having abnormal jaw pain this morning. It is only on the right

>hand side of my face. My BP and pulse are both normal. No crushing

>chest pain. Perhaps I was clenching my teeth last night? It doesn't

>hurt to palpate it, only when I open and close my mouth.

>

>I hate to call my doctor only to be told it is nothing. They always

>make me feel it is all in my head.

>

>I sort of thought my husband may have accidently elbowed me in the jaw

>last night, that is the type of pain it is.

>

>Any advice would be appreciated. I know you aren't doctors but thought

>I would start here before jumping to my doctor's office.

>

>Lynn

>

>

[Guest guest]

I will give it a try. Thank you Lynda.

>

> >Good morning all,

> >

> >I am having abnormal jaw pain this morning. It is only on the right

> >hand side of my face. My BP and pulse are both normal. No crushing

> >chest pain. Perhaps I was clenching my teeth last night? It doesn't

> >hurt to palpate it, only when I open and close my mouth.

> >

> >I hate to call my doctor only to be told it is nothing. They always

> >make me feel it is all in my head.

> >

> >I sort of thought my husband may have accidently elbowed me in the

jaw

> >last night, that is the type of pain it is.

> >

> >Any advice would be appreciated. I know you aren't doctors but

thought

> >I would start here before jumping to my doctor's office.

> >

> >Lynn

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Lynn, I used to have jaw pain that was associated with TMJ, and going to the doctor for that was one of the scariest times I have ever gone to the doctor! I would say wait it out, as my TMJ issues cleared up on their own. But only you can determine how bad it is. I think I had TMJ issues mainly due to having had braces as a teen. Right before I got married, I had terrible issues with my jaw not opening very wide, and it was painful. I had cracking and crunching in my jaw area and I didn't know what to do. It lasted for about a year when I finally decided to see a specialist about it. This guy wanted to jump right in and do surgery, and he seemed eager to help me. I wasn't getting a good feeling about it at all, as I had been through several dental surgeries with my braces (I had an extra set of wisdom teeth-- I was told I was a rare kid). But being the

innocent that I was, I was led like cattle to the slaughter, and I did all he told me to. The first thing he wanted me to do was an MRI of my head, and that is what saved my butt. One of the questions on the MRI questionnaire before undergoing it was "Are you pregnant?" I had just found out I was actually! So they would not do the MRI, and when I told the dental surgeon, he was clearly disappointed. I found out years later that the TMJ surgery that he would have done would have turned into a nightmare, as they were using the teflon jaw joint. Those teflon implants disintegrated in the person's jaw, leaving them nearly incapacitated and unable to eat. It was a national lawsuit...and you can find stories of suffering on the net from these poor people. All I can say is that God was watching out for me! Especially since I had wanted to time my pregnancy so that I wouldn't give birth in December, but

God timed it so that I wouldn't go through this surgery! My daughter was born December 6th. My jaw pain and all my TMJ issues healed on their own. I didn't do anything special. But I cannot chew gum. I won't chew anything especially hard like taffy, but other than that, everything got better without medical intervention. Just be careful, whatever you do. I know these doctors may mean well, but sometimes they are just in the way. You will have to make up your own mind about it depending on how bad things get. Pattyspinkscl <spinkscl@...> wrote: Good morning all,I am having abnormal jaw pain this morning. It is only on the right hand side of my face. My BP and pulse are both normal. No crushing chest pain. Perhaps I was clenching my teeth last night? It doesn't hurt to palpate it, only when I open and close my mouth. I hate to call my doctor only to be told it is nothing. They always make me feel it is all in my head. I sort of thought my husband may have accidently elbowed me in the jaw last night, that is the type of pain it is. Any advice would be appreciated. I know you aren't doctors but thought I would start here before jumping to my doctor's office. Lynn

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Lynn,

After an auto accident, I had to have jaw

surgery. And neck surgery. So, I always am

aware of the jaw problems. I try to massage

those joints when I feel the stiffness and pain

and it really helps. I have to wear a splint at

night now, which I did not have to do prior to

the accident. I dodged a wooden pallet that flew

off a big truck. It was the dodging it that

caused the problems, I probably had my jaw clenched.

Lynda

At 09:38 AM 4/20/2007, you wrote:

>Thank you Patty for sharing your story.

>

>God was looking out for you. I am so happy you weren't able to have

>surgery. Isn't scary how we trust these doctors! We are in pain

>though, believe they are experts and trust they are leading us to a

>cure.

>

>I am going to keep massaging it this morning. Eat breakfast, brush

>and floss and go from there. Perhaps I was clenching my teeth last

>night. I am going to wait this one out unless I have other strange

>symptoms...

>

>Lynn

>

>

> > Good morning all,

> >

> > I am having abnormal jaw pain this morning. It is only on the right

> > hand side of my face. My BP and pulse are both normal. No crushing

> > chest pain. Perhaps I was clenching my teeth last night? It doesn't

> > hurt to palpate it, only when I open and close my mouth.

> >

> > I hate to call my doctor only to be told it is nothing. They always

> > make me feel it is all in my head.

> >

> > I sort of thought my husband may have accidently elbowed me in the

>jaw

> > last night, that is the type of pain it is.

> >

> > Any advice would be appreciated. I know you aren't doctors but

>thought

> > I would start here before jumping to my doctor's office.

> >

> > Lynn

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, Lynn, last week, after my daughter hurt me, I had pain on the right side of my head, and then it went into my jaw. This was frightening, but it went away...just like all the other strange symptoms that we all seem to get. One of the other symptoms that I get is that it seems like my mouth is leaking...just on the right side...it is a phantom leak!!!!!

Love you....Lea

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Re: Re: Jaw Pain

Lynn,After an auto accident, I had to have jaw surgery. And neck surgery. So, I always am aware of the jaw problems. I try to massage those joints when I feel the stiffness and pain and it really helps. I have to wear a splint at night now, which I did not have to do prior to the accident. I dodged a wooden pallet that flew off a big truck. It was the dodging it that caused the problems, I probably had my jaw clenched.LyndaAt 09:38 AM 4/20/2007, you wrote:>Thank you Patty for sharing your story.>>God was looking out for you. I am so happy you weren't able to have>surgery. Isn't scary how we trust these doctors! We are in pain>though, believe they are experts and trust they are leading us to a>cure.>>I am going to keep massaging it this morning. Eat breakfast, brush>and floss and go from there. Perhaps I was clenching my teeth last>night. I am going to wait this one out unless I have other strange>symptoms...>>Lynn>>> > Good morning all,> >> > I am having abnormal jaw pain this morning. It is only on the right> > hand side of my face. My BP and pulse are both normal. No crushing> > chest pain. Perhaps I was clenching my teeth last night? It doesn't> > hurt to palpate it, only when I open and close my mouth.> >> > I hate to call my doctor only to be told it is nothing. They always> > make me feel it is all in my head.> >> > I sort of thought my husband may have accidently elbowed me in the>jaw> > last night, that is the type of pain it is.> >> > Any advice would be appreciated. I know you aren't doctors but>thought> > I would start here before jumping to my doctor's office.> >> > Lynn> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------> > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > Check outnew cars at Autos.> >>>

[Guest guest]

Wow, Lynda. I know that the pain must be horrible but I am so happy

the wooden bullet did not hit you.

Lynn

In , Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

>

> Lynn,

>

> After an auto accident, I had to have jaw

> surgery. And neck surgery. So, I always am

> aware of the jaw problems. I try to massage

> those joints when I feel the stiffness and pain

> and it really helps. I have to wear a splint at

> night now, which I did not have to do prior to

> the accident. I dodged a wooden pallet that flew

> off a big truck. It was the dodging it that

> caused the problems, I probably had my jaw clenched.

>

> Lynda

>

>

>

> At 09:38 AM 4/20/2007, you wrote:

>

> >Thank you Patty for sharing your story.

> >

> >God was looking out for you. I am so happy you weren't able to have

> >surgery. Isn't scary how we trust these doctors! We are in pain

> >though, believe they are experts and trust they are leading us to a

> >cure.

> >

> >I am going to keep massaging it this morning. Eat breakfast, brush

> >and floss and go from there. Perhaps I was clenching my teeth last

> >night. I am going to wait this one out unless I have other strange

> >symptoms...

> >

> >Lynn

> >

> >

> > > Good morning all,

> > >

> > > I am having abnormal jaw pain this morning. It is only on the

right

> > > hand side of my face. My BP and pulse are both normal. No

crushing

> > > chest pain. Perhaps I was clenching my teeth last night? It

doesn't

> > > hurt to palpate it, only when I open and close my mouth.

> > >

> > > I hate to call my doctor only to be told it is nothing. They

always

> > > make me feel it is all in my head.

> > >

> > > I sort of thought my husband may have accidently elbowed me in

the

> >jaw

> > > last night, that is the type of pain it is.

> > >

> > > Any advice would be appreciated. I know you aren't doctors but

> >thought

> > > I would start here before jumping to my doctor's office.

> > >

> > > Lynn

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Nope, just the right side of the car. We kept it

from coming through the windshield. Had nightmares though.

Lynda

At 10:15 AM 4/20/2007, you wrote:

>Wow, Lynda. I know that the pain must be horrible but I am so happy

>the wooden bullet did not hit you.

>

>Lynn

>

>In

><mailto: %40> ,

>Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

> >

> > Lynn,

> >

> > After an auto accident, I had to have jaw

> > surgery. And neck surgery. So, I always am

> > aware of the jaw problems. I try to massage

> > those joints when I feel the stiffness and pain

> > and it really helps. I have to wear a splint at

> > night now, which I did not have to do prior to

> > the accident. I dodged a wooden pallet that flew

> > off a big truck. It was the dodging it that

> > caused the problems, I probably had my jaw clenched.

> >

> > Lynda

> >

> >

> >

> > At 09:38 AM 4/20/2007, you wrote:

> >

> > >Thank you Patty for sharing your story.

> > >

> > >God was looking out for you. I am so happy you weren't able to have

> > >surgery. Isn't scary how we trust these doctors! We are in pain

> > >though, believe they are experts and trust they are leading us to a

> > >cure.

> > >

> > >I am going to keep massaging it this morning. Eat breakfast, brush

> > >and floss and go from there. Perhaps I was clenching my teeth last

> > >night. I am going to wait this one out unless I have other strange

> > >symptoms...

> > >

> > >Lynn

> > >

> > >

> > > > Good morning all,

> > > >

> > > > I am having abnormal jaw pain this morning. It is only on the

>right

> > > > hand side of my face. My BP and pulse are both normal. No

>crushing

> > > > chest pain. Perhaps I was clenching my teeth last night? It

>doesn't

> > > > hurt to palpate it, only when I open and close my mouth.

> > > >

> > > > I hate to call my doctor only to be told it is nothing. They

>always

> > > > make me feel it is all in my head.

> > > >

> > > > I sort of thought my husband may have accidently elbowed me in

>the

> > >jaw

> > > > last night, that is the type of pain it is.

> > > >

> > > > Any advice would be appreciated. I know you aren't doctors but

> > >thought

> > > > I would start here before jumping to my doctor's office.

> > > >

> > > > Lynn

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---------------------------------

> > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

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Lynn,

When I still had implants, I developed a very bad case of TMJ. I had never had any dental issues before in my life. My jaw hurt terribly, made strange clicking noses, caused headaches and ear trouble. It was one of the many problems I had while with implants. Funny thing is, the TMJ specialist I saw asked me if I had implants and then told me there is a high incidence of TMJ among women with implants. That was the first time the idea that the implants were causing any of my symptoms came up. I credit that doc with starting me on the path to discovery and ultimately liberation from those bad puppies.

After explant, the jaw pain went away.

I used to use hot and cold packs, lots of upper body stretching, stayed away from crunchy foods and gum. There are other things that can help if it gets worse.

Bindi

[Guest guest]

Lynn, There is something called "hellerwork" that could really help you. You could do a search for it on the Internet. I have very bad TMJ and a friend who practices Hellerwork. He puts his hand in my mouth with gloves on and manipulates and does all kinds of weird stuff. You should see what he does for my sinuses! However, it has really helped. spinkscl <spinkscl@...> wrote: I will give it a try. Thank you

Lynda. > > >Good morning all,> >> >I am having abnormal jaw pain this morning. It is only on the right> >hand side of my face. My BP and pulse are both normal. No crushing> >chest pain. Perhaps I was clenching my teeth last night? It doesn't> >hurt to palpate it, only when I open and close my mouth.> >> >I hate to call my doctor only to be told it is nothing. They always> >make me feel it is all in my head.> >> >I sort of thought my husband may have accidently

elbowed me in the jaw> >last night, that is the type of pain it is.> >> >Any advice would be appreciated. I know you aren't doctors but thought> >I would start here before jumping to my doctor's office.> >> >Lynn> >> >>

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Dede and Lynn,

I find magnets are best to reduce inflammation. Works wonders on my back.

Lynda

At 12:49 PM 4/20/2007, you wrote:

>Lynn ~

>When I had my heart attack I had what felt like

>a bat hit me across my left jaw................I

>had gotten up to pee in the middle of the night,

>and it happened while I was walking into the

>bathroom. NO chest pain at all, no numbness in

>my arm ..........no other symptoms. I would bet

>yours is TMJ from everything you have been

>through. I am only telling you this because I

>want you to be very aware, heart attacks in

>women are different and there may be no chest

>pain or anything related to what you would think

>would be heart related. I believe that

>relaxing best you can and some jaw massage like

>Lynda said would be good for you. I was told

>from my orthapedic that ice was always better to

>reduce inflammation as heat would feel good but

>increase inflammation. Hope you feel better ! !

> Love, Hugs, and Prayers

>Dede

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Yes, my massage therapist has done this for me at times. Really helped.

Lynda

At 01:19 PM 4/20/2007, you wrote:

>Lynn,

>

>There is something called " hellerwork " that

>could really help you. You could do a search

>for it on the Internet. I have very bad TMJ and

>a friend who practices Hellerwork. He puts his

>hand in my mouth with gloves on and manipulates

>and does all kinds of weird stuff. You should

>see what he does for my sinuses! However, it has really helped.

>

>

>

>spinkscl <spinkscl@...> wrote:

>I will give it a try. Thank you Lynda.

>

>

> >

> > >Good morning all,

> > >

> > >I am having abnormal jaw pain this morning. It is only on the right

> > >hand side of my face. My BP and pulse are both normal. No crushing

> > >chest pain. Perhaps I was clenching my teeth last night? It doesn't

> > >hurt to palpate it, only when I open and close my mouth.

> > >

> > >I hate to call my doctor only to be told it is nothing. They always

> > >make me feel it is all in my head.

> > >

> > >I sort of thought my husband may have accidently elbowed me in the

>jaw

> > >last night, that is the type of pain it is.

> > >

> > >Any advice would be appreciated. I know you aren't doctors but

>thought

> > >I would start here before jumping to my doctor's office.

> > >

> > >Lynn

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

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>Check out

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>

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Lynn ~

Thank you so much ! ! I believe in the power of prayer and prayer in numbers is the best ! ! Yes, it is ok to pray in church for me.

I am so happy to hear about your uncles father getting better. Sounds like he has alot of challenges. God Bless him ! !

You are so sweet ! I bet your tulips are pretty ! ! I love flowers ! I hope you are feeling good this evening, Love DedeSee what's free at AOL.com.

[Guest guest]

Makes sense Bindi. Thanks for the advice. It is actually feeling

much better today.

Are you feeling better? I know a few weeks ago you were having a bad

week. I hope it has subsided.

Thanks again,

Lynn

>

> Lynn,

> I did a lot of research about TMJ when I had it and discovered that

it is often part of a systemic response to trauma (which is perhaps

why it happens a lot to people who have implants). It is also VERY

common response to surgery-- think about it-- you had general

anesthesia, which forces the jaw into a very awkward position,

causing a lot of strain.

>

> If the pain continues, I would try doing the simple things, like

alternating ice packs and hot rice bags, no hard foods and doing lots

of upper body stretches.

>

> There is a wonderful book about TMJ that I highly recommend, called

Taking Control of TMJ, by Uppgaard. It contains a thorough

protocol for curing oneself of TMJ, all natural and no splints!

> But my guess is that your jaw pain is temporary and will subside.

> Bindi

>

[Guest guest]

Dede,

I will pray that your labs come back normal! I do pray for you each

night. If I feel well enough to go to church tomorrow we our pastor

asks for prayer requests outloud. I have mentioned my uncle's father

who recently had two strokes and parkisons, they thought he was going

to die. He is actually getting a tiny bit better, taking speech

therapy. I believe there is power in numbers. So if you don't mind,

I won't mention your name, but I will ask that the congregation prays

that you can regain enough of your health to undergo surgery. I

would love to have everybody join me in praying for you.

I really want you to get healthy enough to get the implants out. I

hate that you are fighting an uphill battle. Your positive energy

radiates and I am sure it helps to make you feel better even when you

don't.

Speaking of flowers. My wonderful family and friends sent/brought me

so many flowers. I got four different arrangements, plus a friend

brought me some magazines to read while I am resting in bed. Oh, and

the tulips in my yard have bloomed and are beautiful!! Once I feel

up to par I want to get a big planter and fill it with some colorful

flowers.

Love, Lynn

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> Lynn ~

> Thank you , you are so sweet ! How are you feeling today?

Please rest

> all you can this weekend. Working has to be hard on you. I am

ok,

> maintaining..........just had a bunch of labs done yesterday for

the renal doctor, so at

> least I can see what is going on from that aspect. I have only

seen her

> once and next wed will be my second visit with her. She only

took history my

> first visit. I have been off all the diuretics for about 6 weeks

now, so I

> feel I will have a better reading on my kidney functions. I was

on 3 different

> diuretics a day... highly toxic and I am no worse off of them.

> I am so glad you got your explant and are on the road to

recovery. Get as

> much rest as you can, and please, every day stop and smell the

roses......

> Hugs N Prayers

> Dede

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