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Hi I am new to this list, but not new to arthritis. I've dealt with it

for the past 17 or 18 years. Not as long as some of you I'm sure. After

reading some of your posts, I realize that I'm doing pretty well. Still,

I sometimes feel like I am falling apart bit by bit. Like an old car that

keeps needing parts. *g* Even the doctors think I've had a lot of

surgeries for my age (44). Anyway, someone mentioned Arava. I have been

on it for almost 3 months now. I have started to decrease my prednisone.

I have been on a low dose (10 mg) for many years, with fluctuations in

the amount when I flare. It's the prednisone that is wreaking havoc with

my body. So far I have dropped one mg of Prednisone. I know that

doesn't seem like much, but it's one-tenth of my regular dose. The docs

are hoping that the Arava will take over for the Prednisone. So am I.

I have been on Celebrex as well but didn't find much help there. Also,

the usual first attempts of gold and Anaprox and such. I also just

started using Vioxx - although I don't take that every day. I find it's

far better than any pain killer at relieving pain because of the

anti-inflammatory in it.

Anyone here on Ultram? I was on it for a while. Then I started reading

the horror stories of addiction. *shudder* It IS hard to get off of.

It's great at controlling pain but it seems to me that you can get

habituated to it so very quickly. It just takes more and more to do the

same amount of pain killing. I have heard of people on doses of 20 tabs a

day. That's scary. The most I ever took was 6 and that wasn't every

day. But it's dang hard to drop off the stuff.

Ok, I have probably gone on a little too long for a newbie. *g*

Jenna

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Welcome Jenna. I was on Ultram after my knee replacements and didn't have

any problem with it. I was very surprised to read the reports about it

being addictive. It really was a great pain pill. I take Vicodan now. I

don't worry about addiction with pain meds because I relate them to a

diabetic needing insulin.

I can relate to feeling like an old car. I wish they would come up with an

oil can for us!!!

Any reduction in Prednisone, no matter how small is significant. It is

better to reduce it very slowly.

a

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From: JennaKay Francis <triskelion@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 12:45 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] newbie

> Hi I am new to this list, but not new to arthritis. I've dealt with it

> for the past 17 or 18 years. Not as long as some of you I'm sure. After

> reading some of your posts, I realize that I'm doing pretty well. Still,

> I sometimes feel like I am falling apart bit by bit. Like an old car that

> keeps needing parts. *g* Even the doctors think I've had a lot of

> surgeries for my age (44). Anyway, someone mentioned Arava. I have been

> on it for almost 3 months now. I have started to decrease my prednisone.

> I have been on a low dose (10 mg) for many years, with fluctuations in

> the amount when I flare. It's the prednisone that is wreaking havoc with

> my body. So far I have dropped one mg of Prednisone. I know that

> doesn't seem like much, but it's one-tenth of my regular dose. The docs

> are hoping that the Arava will take over for the Prednisone. So am I.

>

> I have been on Celebrex as well but didn't find much help there. Also,

> the usual first attempts of gold and Anaprox and such. I also just

> started using Vioxx - although I don't take that every day. I find it's

> far better than any pain killer at relieving pain because of the

> anti-inflammatory in it.

>

> Anyone here on Ultram? I was on it for a while. Then I started reading

> the horror stories of addiction. *shudder* It IS hard to get off of.

> It's great at controlling pain but it seems to me that you can get

> habituated to it so very quickly. It just takes more and more to do the

> same amount of pain killing. I have heard of people on doses of 20 tabs a

> day. That's scary. The most I ever took was 6 and that wasn't every

> day. But it's dang hard to drop off the stuff.

>

> Ok, I have probably gone on a little too long for a newbie. *g*

>

> Jenna

>

>

>

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I was also very surprised to hear about Ultrams' addictive capabilities.

Stunned in fact. When I first started taking it, I was assured it was a

non-addictive pain killer. I thought, great, finally, something I can

take and not have to worry about the repercussions. Then I found a whole

message board about the addiction and withdrawal some people had gone

through. I quizzed my doc and he said that yes, new studies show that it

is highly addictive. Figures.

Jenna

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Peg: there are many of us in our 50's, 60's and even 70's. Hopefully your

" call " will encourage our seniors to answer.

on 7/21/2003 9:44 PM, pegsanborn at hsanborn2@... wrote:

> I would love to

> hear whether there are others as " mature " as I. Peg

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Hi Peg,

You're right. Easy does it, but do it. When we transition into CRON, it maybe helps to NOT make such a big deal out of it IMO. Eating is quirky. It's like stuttering...the harder a person tries to stop, the more they stutter. (Incidentally, Viktor l called this "paradoxical intention," a fascinating concept to which many "dieters" can relate.) Transitioning gradually into CRON, as you propose, is probably quite helpful in achieving long-term success.

Suz

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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 6:44 PM

Subject: [ ] Newbie

I am a 70-year-old very fit newcomer, a student of cr since the first Walford book but lacking consistency. I hope the group knowledge will help me achieve that consistency and I think it is not too late, particularly if cr is done gently and gradually. I would love to hear whether there are others as "mature" as I. Peg

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In a message dated 7/21/2003 6:54:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, fskelton@... writes:

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Would you be kindenough to help me find "Getting Started" or "CR Made Easy"

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Sure: we have many other newbies lately so for all newbies - Just go to the

home page at: /

Click on " files " in the left hand margin. Then click on the " CR Made Easy "

file.

on 7/22/2003 8:57 AM, hsanborn2@... at hsanborn2@... wrote:

> In a message dated 7/21/2003 6:54:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> fskelton@... writes:

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>> com

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> Would you be kindenough to help me find " Getting Started " or " CR Made Easy "

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How long have you had RA?

S.

> Hello

> Thought I would join an RA group since I feel as I need to find more

> info out there to assist me with my RA. I am currently on Enbrel wkly

> and Prednisone, and Vicodin. Tried MTX and all DMRS with no help. I

am

> currently waiting to start Remicade TX. So far my disease has

crippled

> me to not work, or in all sense-live. Most of my days are spent in

> bed. I have a wonderful husband and three young ones. Just wanting to

> connect with anyone out there that may be or has been where I am

right

> now. Thanks

>

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Depending on financial situation and insurance there may be places that help with medications or even provide free medications. I don't know anything about them because I'm not eligible and I'm not even sure the web sites are still active.

Financial assistance

https://www.pparx.org/Intro.phphttps://www.helpingpatients.org/Intro.php http://www.needymeds.com http://www.themedicineprogram.com

Http://www.rxassist.org

http://www.medicationfoundation.com/ http://www.nami.org/Content/ContentGroups/Helpline1/Prescription_Drug_Patient_Assistance_Programs.htm http://www.qdrug.com/sf/

http://www.freemedicineprogram.com

http://www.rheumatology.org/public/acrast.asp?aud=pat

I have hypothyroidism as well as RA and the hypothyroidism is well controlled with Levothyroxine. I really don't know what symptoms come with the hypothyroidism because I never identified anything wrong when my doctor found out I had it through a regular blood test. My RA is pretty well controlled with Methotrexate and Remicade.

Welcome to the group and God bless.

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From: daydreamer2578

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 6:38 PM

Subject: Newbie

Hello everybody,My mom has had RA for a little over a year now and has been gettingprogressively worse, even with the methotrexate therapy. She also didnot respond well to the malaria drug (I forget what it's called) shewas first given. Her doctor wants her to start on enbril, but herinsurance will only cover a small portion of it and it looks like itwill be prohibitively expensive for her, especially since she justhad to quit her job because she was no longer physically able to doit.I have been reading through the information on the Road BackFoundation regarding long-term antibiotic therapy for mycoplasmainfections that are reportedly common in RA and the information therelooks promising. I was wondering if any here had tried anythingalong that line and how well it worked for them. I'm also findinglots of supposed "cures" out there -- vitamin suppliments, emu oil,hydrogen peroxide IV's, etc. I'm sure most of these are shams, butif any of you have found something useful in alleviating somesymptoms, I'd be interested in hearing it.I was also wondering about any connections between RA and thyroiddisease. Most of the women in my family have Hashimoto's thyroiditisand I have encouraged my mom to start adding a small amount ofcytomel to her medications. She says that it's helped increase herenergy and alleviate some of the brain fog, but has not done much forher pain and swelling. I know that these autoimmune diseases travelin packs, can the symptoms of one aggrivate the other or can treatingone help the other?Thanks in advance for your answers,JenL

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Thanks for the info! I forwarded it on to her, hopefully she'll find

some good resources there.

Glad to hear you are doing well living with this, maybe there's hope

for her yet!

Jen

> Depending on financial situation and insurance there may be places

that help with medications or even provide free medications. I don't

know anything about them because I'm not eligible and I'm not even

sure the web sites are still active.

> Financial assistance

>

> https://www.pparx.org/Intro.php

> https://www.helpingpatients.org/Intro.php

> http://www.needymeds.com

> http://www.themedicineprogram.com

>

> Http://www.rxassist.org

>

> http://www.medicationfoundation.com/

http://www.nami.org/Content/ContentGroups/Helpline1/Prescription_Drug_

Patient_Assistance_Programs.htm http://www.qdrug.com/sf/

>

> http://www.freemedicineprogram.com

>

> http://www.rheumatology.org/public/acrast.asp?aud=pat

>

> I have hypothyroidism as well as RA and the hypothyroidism is well

controlled with Levothyroxine. I really don't know what symptoms

come with the hypothyroidism because I never identified anything

wrong when my doctor found out I had it through a regular blood

test. My RA is pretty well controlled with Methotrexate and Remicade.

>

> Welcome to the group and God bless.

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: daydreamer2578

> Rheumatoid Arthritis

> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 6:38 PM

> Subject: Newbie

>

>

> Hello everybody,

>

> My mom has had RA for a little over a year now and has been

getting

> progressively worse, even with the methotrexate therapy. She also

did

> not respond well to the malaria drug (I forget what it's called)

she

> was first given. Her doctor wants her to start on enbril, but her

> insurance will only cover a small portion of it and it looks like

it

> will be prohibitively expensive for her, especially since she just

> had to quit her job because she was no longer physically able to

do

> it.

>

> I have been reading through the information on the Road Back

> Foundation regarding long-term antibiotic therapy for mycoplasma

> infections that are reportedly common in RA and the information

there

> looks promising. I was wondering if any here had tried anything

> along that line and how well it worked for them. I'm also finding

> lots of supposed " cures " out there -- vitamin suppliments, emu

oil,

> hydrogen peroxide IV's, etc. I'm sure most of these are shams, but

> if any of you have found something useful in alleviating some

> symptoms, I'd be interested in hearing it.

>

> I was also wondering about any connections between RA and thyroid

> disease. Most of the women in my family have Hashimoto's

thyroiditis

> and I have encouraged my mom to start adding a small amount of

> cytomel to her medications. She says that it's helped increase her

> energy and alleviate some of the brain fog, but has not done much

for

> her pain and swelling. I know that these autoimmune diseases

travel

> in packs, can the symptoms of one aggrivate the other or can

treating

> one help the other?

>

> Thanks in advance for your answers,

>

> JenL

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> My regular doc is sending me to a RA doc because of lab work and pain

> I am having. What will the RA doc do? I am nervous. I go

Thursday.

> Yikes!

Don't be nervous--you're getting the best help available for arthritis!

The rheumatologist will talk to you at length and examine your joints.

You're on the road to feeling better.

Sierra

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there is nothing to be nervous about and RA doctor is only going to

help you they are really gentle be sure to write down any questions

you have so you don't forget what you want to ask him it is really

eaasy to forget good luck with the RA and welcome to the group

Sherrie

> My regular doc is sending me to a RA doc because of lab work and

pain

> I am having. What will the RA doc do? I am nervous. I go

Thursday.

> Yikes!

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