Re: OT: help asthma and mucus production

[Guest guest]

Hello Listmates. My little one has asthma and her lungs produces a lot of mucus.

She gets nauseated and sometimes throw up from the large amount of mucus that

she produces. I have been using NAC to help but I am not sure how successful it

is since I also give her the traditional medication for asthma (albuterol,

singulair, pulmicort). I am (naturally) not happy about this path but the

medications helps her a lot. I wonder if anyone in my situation has been

successful in treating this problem and wouldn't mind sharing. Thanks for any

response. It is greatly appreciated. To not clutter the list, this is my thank

you for your time. VickyV.

[Guest guest]

Vicky

Are you doing digestive enzymes? Take a look at enzemedica. They have

something, sorry off the top of my head quick, kids are getting home. Has to do

with mucus and in the name of a digestive enzyme. Give them a call too with

questions.

How old is she? Has she had food allergy testing? My nt with severe food

allergies, out grew his asthma, now 7.5.

Tammy

Re: [ ] Re: OT: help asthma and mucus production

Hello Listmates. My little one has asthma and her lungs produces a lot of

mucus. She gets nauseated and sometimes throw up from the large amount of mucus

that she produces. I have been using NAC to help but I am not sure how

successful it is since I also give her the traditional medication for asthma

(albuterol, singulair, pulmicort). I am (naturally) not happy about this path

but the medications helps her a lot. I wonder if anyone in my situation has been

successful in treating this problem and wouldn't mind sharing. Thanks for any

response. It is greatly appreciated. To not clutter the list, this is my thank

you for your time. VickyV.

[Guest guest]

Has she been tested for cystic fibrosis? This is the kind of thing I hear on CF

lists a lot. I have " atypical " CF and was diagnosed late, with a borderline

sweat chloride. I do have a website about what I am doing to keep myself

healthy without drugs: http://www.healthgazelle.com

Good luck with this.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

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> Hello Listmates. My little one has asthma and her lungs produces a lot of

mucus. She gets nauseated and sometimes throw up from the large amount of mucus

that she produces. I have been using NAC to help but I am not sure how

successful it is since I also give her the traditional medication for asthma

(albuterol, singulair, pulmicort). I am (naturally) not happy about this path

but the medications helps her a lot. I wonder if anyone in my situation has been

successful in treating this problem and wouldn't mind sharing. Thanks for any

response. It is greatly appreciated. To not clutter the list, this is my thank

you for your time. VickyV.

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[Guest guest]

Vicky,

My DD is also susceptible to asthma & lung congestion and here is what I've done

that has helped enormously:

- eliminate all high-sulfur foods (Have you looked into this possible

sulfur-asthma connection? If not, check the archives for information about the

subject, which Andy has talked about. For some people who are high cysteine,

sulfur foods may cause problems and asthma is one of them.)

- identify & eliminate allergens (for my DD, it took me a while to figure out

that she is allergic to wool, feathers and doesn't tolerate sulfur foods)

- get an air purifier (this made a huge difference for us so I suspect that

there is also something in the outside environment or in the home that is

exacerbating her lungs)

- look into possible sources of mould in the home

- treat yeast (seems to help with everything)

Also, Michele on this list has some great advice about respitory problems. She

pointed out to me the connection between high body acidity and

inflammation/infection. I hadn't noticed it before Michele pointed it out, but

my DD's urine consistently smells acidic when she has lung congestion and so I

give her antacids or baking soda when she gets congested which also seems to

help.

Hope this helps,

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> Hello Listmates. My little one has asthma and her lungs produces a lot of

mucus. She gets nauseated and sometimes throw up from the large amount of mucus

that she produces. I have been using NAC to help but I am not sure how

successful it is since I also give her the traditional medication for asthma

(albuterol, singulair, pulmicort). I am (naturally) not happy about this path

but the medications helps her a lot. I wonder if anyone in my situation has been

successful in treating this problem and wouldn't mind sharing. Thanks for any

response. It is greatly appreciated. To not clutter the list, this is my thank

you for your time. VickyV.

[Guest guest]

> Hello Listmates. My little one has asthma and her lungs produces a lot of

mucus.

I had this problem for a while. My asthma was caused by yeast overgrowth in my

lungs.

Dana

[Guest guest]

How do you know if you have a yeast overgrowth in your lungs?

> > Hello Listmates. My little one has asthma and her lungs produces a lot of

mucus.

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> I had this problem for a while. My asthma was caused by yeast overgrowth in

my lungs.

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> Dana

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[Guest guest]

> How do you know if you have a yeast overgrowth in your lungs?

After 3 days of terrible asthma symptoms, and trying everything I could think of

without results, I got desperate and dumped a *LOT* of GSE into a small amount

of water and gagged it down. Within an hour things were 90% better.

So the next time it happened, I started taking several drops of GSE in a small

amount of water right away, and took some every 60 minutes. Asthma was gone

within a few hours.

Yeast overgrowth in my lungs has caused asthma, constant coughing, and a few

other symptoms. Adding biotin and doing a few other things, has entirely

eliminated my asthma issue.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dana, what do you mean by " a lot " of GSE? Ten drops? Fifty? A hundred?

Thanks,

Dean

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Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:31 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: OT: help asthma and mucus production

> How do you know if you have a yeast overgrowth in your lungs?

After 3 days of terrible asthma symptoms, and trying everything I could

think of without results, I got desperate and dumped a *LOT* of GSE into a

small amount of water and gagged it down. Within an hour things were 90%

better.

So the next time it happened, I started taking several drops of GSE in a

small amount of water right away, and took some every 60 minutes. Asthma was

gone within a few hours.

Yeast overgrowth in my lungs has caused asthma, constant coughing, and a few

other symptoms. Adding biotin and doing a few other things, has entirely

eliminated my asthma issue.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I have been thinking about this some more. Guifenisen might help. And

consuming sea salt might help, if you aren't already using that.

FWIW: I am allergic to albuterol and have successfully used caffeine (from diet

coke and/or chocolate) as a substitute to stop asthma-like attacks. Cleaning up

my home environment and getting myself healthier allowed me to get off all the

drugs I used to take, including I believe stuff that did basically the same

thing as singulair. And as someone else mentioned, a big part of getting my

lung problems under control involved getting excess acidity under control.

There is apparently a direct correlation between high acidity and lung

congestion/inflammation. Addressing that piece of it helped me get of multiple

drugs, most of which had anti-inflammatory properties as either their primary or

secondary purpose.

Good luck with this.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

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> Hello Listmates. My little one has asthma and her lungs produces a lot of

mucus. She gets nauseated and sometimes throw up from the large amount of mucus

that she produces. I have been using NAC to help but I am not sure how

successful it is since I also give her the traditional medication for asthma

(albuterol, singulair, pulmicort). I am (naturally) not happy about this path

but the medications helps her a lot. I wonder if anyone in my situation has been

successful in treating this problem and wouldn't mind sharing. Thanks for any

response. It is greatly appreciated. To not clutter the list, this is my thank

you for your time. VickyV.

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[Guest guest]

How much dairy is she consuming?

Yeast overgrowth in the lings also will produce mucus.

Vicky Vanyo wrote:

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> Hello Listmates. My little one has asthma and her lungs produces a lot

> of mucus. She gets nauseated and sometimes throw up from the large

> amount of mucus that she produces. I have been using NAC to help but I

> am not sure how successful it is since I also give her the traditional

> medication for asthma (albuterol, singulair, pulmicort). I am

> (naturally) not happy about this path but the medications helps her a

> lot. I wonder if anyone in my situation has been successful in

> treating this problem and wouldn't mind sharing. Thanks for any

> response. It is greatly appreciated. To not clutter the list, this is

> my thank you for your time. VickyV.

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[Guest guest]

I'm glad you popped in, Michele. I immediately thought of you, but I didn't

want to mention CF because I know so little about it aside from the classic

presentation.

Let's hope this isn't the case here, but it is worth investigating if she isn't

getting better.

Pam

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mucus. She gets nauseated and sometimes throw up from the large amount of mucus

that she produces. I have been using NAC to help but I am not sure how

successful it is since I also give her the traditional medication for asthma

(albuterol, singulair, pulmicort). I am (naturally) not happy about this path

but the medications helps her a lot. I wonder if anyone in my situation has been

successful in treating this problem and wouldn't mind sharing. Thanks for any

response. It is greatly appreciated. To not clutter the list, this is my thank

you for your time. VickyV.

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[Guest guest]

> Dana, what do you mean by " a lot " of GSE? Ten drops? Fifty? A hundred?

I don't remember now, it was quite a few years ago. But I put about an inch of

water in a cup, and then I squeezed the GSE bottle until a stream of drops was

coming out. And I waited about 5-8 seconds before I stopped. So I would guess

between 50-100 drops. It was hard to gag it down LOL, but boy did it provide

almost immediate relief!

Dana

[Guest guest]

If she has a relatively mild form of it, having a diagnosis can be very

empowering. Yes, a diagnosis means idiot doctors will try to dope you to your

gills and convince you to get annual flu shots. That can be ignored/rejected

and the diagnosis can be used as valuable information to help one get healthier.

I did a fair amount of alternative stuff before my diagnosis but just could

never get myself well. Knowing what the root cause is has allowed me to make

dramatic improvements in health. So I don't tend to think of it as a Bad Thing.

I know the label scares a lot of people, but when I was diagnosed I was

genuinely relieved to finally have an answer after a lifetime of being treated

like a hypochondriac. It wasn't news to me that I had respiratory problems and

chronic health problems. Everyone knew that. Now we just knew why.

Even if it is not CF, there are a lot of overlapping issues between CF and less

serious respiratory issues -- like the connection between high acidity and lung

inflammation. People with CF are very prone to being extremely acid. Even

without a genetic disorder, the typical modern American diet tends to be pretty

acidifying. There are books out there on that very fact if one wants more info

than just my opinion. :-D

As for popping in: That's all I can manage here lately. I have been working a

fair amount of overtime, which leaves me too tired to post much, and when I am

not doing that, I am throwing up. I've done a lot of throwing up since part of

my bridge broke off last June. My bridge broke and 3 days later I " forgot " to

take my guaifenisen, a drug I had taken for about 6 years and which had been a

godsend that helped me get off steroids and other strong stuff with horrible

side effects. Suddenly, I didn't need it anymore. I throw up something

extremely bitter, then I sleep like the dead and my baseline health is better

afterwards. So it's clearly part of my healing process. But it's miserable to

go through.

Talk to you later.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

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> > Has she been tested for cystic fibrosis? This is the kind of thing I hear

on CF lists a lot. I have " atypical " CF and was diagnosed late, with a

borderline sweat chloride. I do have a website about what I am doing to keep

myself healthy without drugs: http://www.healthgazelle.com

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> > Good luck with this.

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> > Michele

> > http://www.healthgazelle.com

> > http://www.kidslikemine.com

> > http://www.solanorail.com

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[Guest guest]

michele_in_california wrote:

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> If she has a relatively mild form of it, having a diagnosis can be

> very empowering. Yes, a diagnosis means idiot doctors will try to dope

> you to your gills and convince you to get annual flu shots. That can

> be ignored/rejected and the diagnosis can be used as valuable

> information to help one get healthier. I did a fair amount of

> alternative stuff before my diagnosis but just could never get myself

> well. Knowing what the root cause is has allowed me to make dramatic

> improvements in health. So I don't tend to think of it as a Bad Thing.

> I know the label scares a lot of people, but when I was diagnosed I

> was genuinely relieved to finally have an answer after a lifetime of

> being treated like a hypochondriac. It wasn't news to me that I had

> respiratory problems and chronic health problems. Everyone knew that.

> Now we just knew why.

>

> Even if it is not CF, there are a lot of overlapping issues between CF

> and less serious respiratory issues -- like the connection between

> high acidity and lung inflammation. People with CF are very prone to

> being extremely acid. Even without a genetic disorder, the typical

> modern American diet tends to be pretty acidifying. There are books

> out there on that very fact if one wants more info than just my

> opinion. :-D

>

> As for popping in: That's all I can manage here lately. I have been

> working a fair amount of overtime, which leaves me too tired to post

> much, and when I am not doing that, I am throwing up. I've done a lot

> of throwing up since part of my bridge broke off last June. My bridge

> broke and 3 days later I " forgot " to take my guaifenisen, a drug I had

> taken for about 6 years and which had been a godsend that helped me

> get off steroids and other strong stuff with horrible side effects.

> Suddenly, I didn't need it anymore. I throw up something extremely

> bitter, then I sleep like the dead and my baseline health is better

> afterwards. So it's clearly part of my healing process. But it's

> miserable to go through.

>

It really does sound miserable...

You might want to talk to your dentist about this. There might be

something he/she can coat the teeth with to prevent them from being

literally dissolved with all the stomach acid you are throwing up. Or

you could rinse with something like baking soda soon after throwing up.

This is one of the problems you see in bulemia, too.

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> Talk to you later.

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> Michele

> http://www.healthgazelle.com <http://www.healthgazelle.com>

> http://www.kidslikemine.com <http://www.kidslikemine.com>

> http://www.solanorail.com <http://www.solanorail.com>

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> > > Has she been tested for cystic fibrosis? This is the kind of thing

> I hear on CF lists a lot. I have " atypical " CF and was diagnosed late,

> with a borderline sweat chloride. I do have a website about what I am

> doing to keep myself healthy without drugs:

> http://www.healthgazelle.com <http://www.healthgazelle.com>

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> > > Good luck with this.

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> > > Michele

> > > http://www.healthgazelle.com <http://www.healthgazelle.com>

> > > http://www.kidslikemine.com <http://www.kidslikemine.com>

> > > http://www.solanorail.com <http://www.solanorail.com>

> > >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Not Dana, but when I have had sinus infections, I'll take about 75 drops of GSE

every few hours. It clears up the infection within 12 hours. I then follow up

with high doses of probiotics. I would strongly suggest that you put the GSE

into empty capsules though. It's awful otherwise. I keep empty capsules of

different sizes for this reason. If I give my ds OoO I use the tiniest capsules

for the 4 or 5 drops he gets. I use the biggest capsules for my own GSE.

Anita

> > How do you know if you have a yeast overgrowth in your lungs?

>

> After 3 days of terrible asthma symptoms, and trying everything I could

> think of without results, I got desperate and dumped a *LOT* of GSE into a

> small amount of water and gagged it down. Within an hour things were 90%

> better.

>

> So the next time it happened, I started taking several drops of GSE in a

> small amount of water right away, and took some every 60 minutes. Asthma was

> gone within a few hours.

>

> Yeast overgrowth in my lungs has caused asthma, constant coughing, and a few

> other symptoms. Adding biotin and doing a few other things, has entirely

> eliminated my asthma issue.

>

> Dana

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[Guest guest]

GSE liquid _must_ be diluted.

mysuperteach wrote:

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> Not Dana, but when I have had sinus infections, I'll take about 75

> drops of GSE every few hours. It clears up the infection within 12

> hours. I then follow up with high doses of probiotics. I would

> strongly suggest that you put the GSE into empty capsules though. It's

> awful otherwise. I keep empty capsules of different sizes for this

> reason. If I give my ds OoO I use the tiniest capsules for the 4 or 5

> drops he gets. I use the biggest capsules for my own GSE.

>

> Anita

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> > > How do you know if you have a yeast overgrowth in your lungs?

> >

> > After 3 days of terrible asthma symptoms, and trying everything I could

> > think of without results, I got desperate and dumped a *LOT* of GSE

> into a

> > small amount of water and gagged it down. Within an hour things were 90%

> > better.

> >

> > So the next time it happened, I started taking several drops of GSE in a

> > small amount of water right away, and took some every 60 minutes.

> Asthma was

> > gone within a few hours.

> >

> > Yeast overgrowth in my lungs has caused asthma, constant coughing,

> and a few

> > other symptoms. Adding biotin and doing a few other things, has entirely

> > eliminated my asthma issue.

> >

> > Dana

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I haven't seen a dentist in a number of years and I have no plans to go back any

time soon. They are a big part of why I ended up so sick (mouth full of large

amalgams, root canals, and crowns -- and I nearly died about a year after

getting my lovely, high quality gold bridge that looks so real I used to try to

floss between those " teeth " ). I do rinse my mouth after vomiting. It does

help. It is something I taught my kids when they were little: ALWAYS rinse

your mouth out after vomiting. I had pneumonia when I was 4 years old and went

from a perfect dental check-up beforehand to 13 cavities at my next 6 month

check-up. My oldest son, who has the same diagnosis I have, has faired a lot

better, dental-wise, and I believe it is largely due to my policy of " rinse

after vomiting " . (Anyone on this list with kids, I would encourage you to make

it a firm policy in your household as well. Not getting cavities is the best

way to prevent a person from ending up with amalgams.)

In truth though, I don't think I am throwing up much stomach acid. I drink a

lot of fruit juice and water when I am going through this. I most throw up

fluid and something very, very bitter. I throw up relatively little food. I

don't have it all worked out, but it seems to me that whatever this bitter stuff

is, it is related to whatever chemical processes are involved in " the normal

progression of cystic fibrosis " . I seem to have stopped and reversed that

progression and I am getting healthier when it supposedly can't be done. Even

though they blame CF all on your genes, logically, there has to be a

physiological process involved in " the progression " . It is well documented that

the cells of people with CF are chemically out of whack and tend to be way too

high in some things. Some of the known chemicals hoarded by the cells of people

like me include calcium and glutathione. I suspect the body does this in a

desperate attempt to buffer itself from other chemicals and try to keep from

frying, chemically, because another well known fact is we tend to be extremely

acid. My recollection is that very high calcium levels can lead to cell death,

so it's possible that our bodies attempts to protect themselves ultimately fail

and help lead to death. In the long run, the only effective thing to do is to

get the bad chemicals out of the body and don't let them just build up.

Also: My teeth were coated when I was a teen and I am missing most of my back

teeth, the ones which are typically the most seriously effected with bulima.

Anyway, thanks for you concern but I think I am on top of it. :-)

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.oom

http://www.kidslikemine.ocm

http://www.solanorail.com

> > As for popping in: That's all I can manage here lately. I have been

> > working a fair amount of overtime, which leaves me too tired to post

> > much, and when I am not doing that, I am throwing up. I've done a lot

> > of throwing up since part of my bridge broke off last June. My bridge

> > broke and 3 days later I " forgot " to take my guaifenisen, a drug I had

> > taken for about 6 years and which had been a godsend that helped me

> > get off steroids and other strong stuff with horrible side effects.

> > Suddenly, I didn't need it anymore. I throw up something extremely

> > bitter, then I sleep like the dead and my baseline health is better

> > afterwards. So it's clearly part of my healing process. But it's

> > miserable to go through.

> >

> It really does sound miserable...

>

> You might want to talk to your dentist about this. There might be

> something he/she can coat the teeth with to prevent them from being

> literally dissolved with all the stomach acid you are throwing up. Or

> you could rinse with something like baking soda soon after throwing up.

> This is one of the problems you see in bulemia, too.

>

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[Guest guest]

By how much must it be diluted? What is your recommendation for a

high but safe dose?

Thanks,

Dean

Re: [ ] Re: OT: help asthma and mucus production

GSE liquid _must_ be diluted.

mysuperteach wrote:

>

> Not Dana, but when I have had sinus infections, I'll take about 75

> drops of GSE every few hours. It clears up the infection within 12

> hours. I then follow up with high doses of probiotics. I would

> strongly suggest that you put the GSE into empty capsules though. It's

> awful otherwise. I keep empty capsules of different sizes for this

> reason. If I give my ds OoO I use the tiniest capsules for the 4 or 5

> drops he gets. I use the biggest capsules for my own GSE.

>

> Anita

>

>

> > > How do you know if you have a yeast overgrowth in your lungs?

> >

> > After 3 days of terrible asthma symptoms, and trying everything I could

> > think of without results, I got desperate and dumped a *LOT* of GSE

> into a

> > small amount of water and gagged it down. Within an hour things were 90%

> > better.

> >

> > So the next time it happened, I started taking several drops of GSE in a

> > small amount of water right away, and took some every 60 minutes.

> Asthma was

> > gone within a few hours.

> >

> > Yeast overgrowth in my lungs has caused asthma, constant coughing,

> and a few

> > other symptoms. Adding biotin and doing a few other things, has entirely

> > eliminated my asthma issue.

> >

> > Dana

> >

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[Guest guest]

The bitter stuff is bile.

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> > > As for popping in: That's all I can manage here lately. I have been

> > > working a fair amount of overtime, which leaves me too tired to post

> > > much, and when I am not doing that, I am throwing up. I've done a lot

> > > of throwing up since part of my bridge broke off last June. My bridge

> > > broke and 3 days later I " forgot " to take my guaifenisen, a drug I had

> > > taken for about 6 years and which had been a godsend that helped me

> > > get off steroids and other strong stuff with horrible side effects.

> > > Suddenly, I didn't need it anymore. I throw up something extremely

> > > bitter, then I sleep like the dead and my baseline health is better

> > > afterwards. So it's clearly part of my healing process. But it's

> > > miserable to go through.

> > >

> > It really does sound miserable...

> >

> > You might want to talk to your dentist about this. There might be

> > something he/she can coat the teeth with to prevent them from being

> > literally dissolved with all the stomach acid you are throwing up. Or

> > you could rinse with something like baking soda soon after throwing up.

> > This is one of the problems you see in bulemia, too.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

This is a problem I have myself.  Tumeric/curcumin has helped my asthma,

probably because it's a natural anti-inflammatory.  I avoid dairy because it

causes mucus for me.  Does your daughter have triggers?  Acid reflux can also

exacerbate asthma.  I use a nasal lavage (like a neti-pot) to thin mucus

during the day and take mucinex, as needed, to help at night.  Otherwise I

cough and hack. 

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From: Vicky Vanyo <vidyawattie@...>

Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 1:33:15 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: OT: help asthma and mucus production

 

Hello Listmates. My little one has asthma and her lungs produces a lot of mucus.

She gets nauseated and sometimes throw up from the large amount of mucus that

she produces. I have been using NAC to help but I am not sure how successful it

is since I also give her the traditional medication for asthma (albuterol,

singulair, pulmicort). I am (naturally) not happy about this path but the

medications helps her a lot. I wonder if anyone in my situation has been

successful in treating this problem and wouldn't mind sharing. Thanks for any

response. It is greatly appreciated. To not clutter the list, this is my thank

you for your time. VickyV.

[Guest guest]

Thanks. You aren't the first person to say that, but it's always nice to have

more data. Another friend suggested that and I ran it past my oldest son. What

I vomit also tends to be orange-tinged, no matter what I have been eating or

drinking. My oldest son says bile can be orange. So that is the general

consensus at this time. I don't know what that specifically has to do with

essentially reversing my medical issues, but it's clear there is some process

going on here.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

>

> The bitter stuff is bile.

>

> --- In , " michele_in_california "