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I'm not familiar with that particular test but my Platelet count is

consistently somewhat above the normal range. I have been taking a daily

aspirin for years, even before I got RA over 3 years ago. A few years ago I

switched from a normal aspirin to a low-dose adult aspirin (sometimes called

a baby aspirin). My doctors haven't had me do anything else because of it.

This may not be similar to what you have. God bless.

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Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 8:04 AM

Subject: Blood Clotting

> Good Morning,

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> I've had RA for 7 years now. I think I originally got it from a reaction

> to

> a rubella vaccine. I've done pretty well on it. My medications are

> plaquenil and arthrotec 75.

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> A couple months ago I went for blood tests. One was a new

> one......cardiolipin IgM. My levels were higher than normal. My doctor

> said this is indicative of a higher than normal chance of developing blood

> clots. I'm supposed to take a baby aspirin daily, make sure I move lots

> on

> long flights, take a specific drug prior to surgery....I think that's it.

>

> Anyone else have any experience with this? It's evidently related to RA

> and

> other autoimmune diseases.

>

> Thanks for any info.

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Another thing to keep in mind, for those of us who cannot take aspirin, get yourself some vitamin E and take that. It helps to thin the blood somewhat, preventing heart attacks, etc.~Harold Van Tuyl <hvantuyl@...> wrote:

I'm not familiar with that particular test but my Platelet count is consistently somewhat above the normal range. I have been taking a daily aspirin for years, even before I got RA over 3 years ago. A few years ago I switched from a normal aspirin to a low-dose adult aspirin (sometimes called a baby aspirin). My doctors haven't had me do anything else because of it. This may not be similar to what you have. God bless.----- Original Message ----- From: "" Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 8:04 AMSubject: Blood Clotting> Good Morning,>> I've had RA for 7 years now. I think I originally got it from a reaction > to> a rubella vaccine. I've done pretty well on it. My medications are> plaquenil and arthrotec

75.>> A couple months ago I went for blood tests. One was a new> one......cardiolipin IgM. My levels were higher than normal. My doctor> said this is indicative of a higher than normal chance of developing blood> clots. I'm supposed to take a baby aspirin daily, make sure I move lots > on> long flights, take a specific drug prior to surgery....I think that's it.>> Anyone else have any experience with this? It's evidently related to RA > and> other autoimmune diseases.>> Thanks for any info.>> >>>>>>

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Hi

Zinc should have some copper with it (ratio about 15:1) and that may be

one potential cause of longer bleeding times.

best wishes

Bob

> Hi all, I'm asking for more support sooner than I thought. I had

> blood drawn today and it bleed for longer than normal, which

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- see below - magnesium is a blood thinner (plus Vit K etc.etc.)

- calcium is the clotter - I had the same as I was deficient in

magnesium and my blood went thin by taking it - have you been tested

for vit and min deficiencies as it can be - I wouldn't say dangerous -

but everyone needs to be wary of self adminstering vitamins and

minerals - as taking one can detract from the other i.e. taking

isolated vitamin B tablets can compromise the other B's in the group -

one should take Vitamin B as a complex to avoid this happening. If

you are on blood thinners you should not be taking magnesium in

isolation. Best to take a good multivitamin tablet that provides you

with a little of everything to build up your resources. Don't get me

wrong magnesium is a wonderful mineral and it will make you feel calm

and relaxed etc. but everything in moderation because we are all

unique in our body chemistry. I would suggest dropping down to 100 mg

- 200 mg is quite high initially - and get a good multi and then stop

taking the 200mg in isolation - you are also taking quite a high dose

of zinc at 22mg - maximum should be 15 mg unless you have a deficiency

and are under the guidance of someone who knows what they are doing -

and yes it can detract from your copper supplies but not for a long

while of taking zinc - as copper has its own problems - but for

information zinc depletes vitamin C - but you are taking C so that

should help but C depletes B - hence why I say far better to take a

multi as a foundation. Nutrition and supplements are a complicated

(but fascinating) science. I hope this has helped.

regards

M

Magnesium - the missing nutrient

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Hi Louise,

It may be von Willebrand factor that is causing this problem (ie too

low).

best wishes

Bob

> Hello

> Not that it helps much but I too have the same problem, and it does

not seem to be getting any better. Mine started when I switched to

Armour

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Hi all, this is from Thyroid Diseases Manager, Impaired fibrinolysis (impaired blood clotting)

Table 2. Reported adverse effects of subclinical thyroid dysfunction

Subclinical hypothyroidism or mild thyroid failure (increased TSH, normal free T4)

Non specific symptoms may improve with treatment (57,58,63a)Progression to overt hypothyroidism (38,59)Independent risk factor for atherosclerosis? (60)Adverse effects on vascular compliance (61)Abnormal cardiac function may improve with treatment (62)Beneficial effect of treatment on lipids (63,63a)Adverse effect on foetal brain development in pregnancy (21,22,22a)Increased prevalence of depressive illness ? (64)Impaired fibrinolysis (64a)

64a Homocysteine and Fibrinogen Changes with L-thyroxine in Subclinical Hypothyroid Patients

http://jkms.org/fulltext/pdf/jkms-22-431.pdf

Could this also be the case with poorly treated hypothyroidism?

Best wishes

>> Hi Louise,> > It may be von Willebrand factor that is causing this problem (ie too > low).> > best wishes> Bob> >

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Hmm! ~ sounds like a possibility . I wonder if Chuck knows anything about this?

Luv - Sheila

Hi all, this is from Thyroid Diseases Manager, Impaired fibrinolysis (impaired blood clotting)

Table 2. Reported adverse effects of subclinical thyroid dysfunction

Subclinical hypothyroidism or mild thyroid failure (increased TSH, normal free T4)

Non specific symptoms may improve with treatment (57,58,63a)Progression to overt hypothyroidism (38,59)Independent risk factor for atherosclerosis? (60)Adverse effects on vascular compliance (61)Abnormal cardiac function may improve with treatment (62)Beneficial effect of treatment on lipids (63,63a)Adverse effect on foetal brain development in pregnancy (21,22,22a)Increased prevalence of depressive illness ? (64)Impaired fibrinolysis (64a)

64a Homocysteine and Fibrinogen Changes with L-thyroxine in Subclinical Hypothyroid Patients

http://jkms.org/fulltext/pdf/jkms-22-431.pdf

Could this also be the case with poorly treated hypothyroidism?

Best wishes

>> Hi Louise,> > It may be von Willebrand factor that is causing this problem (ie too > low).> > best wishes> Bob> >

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Sheila,

You wrote:

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> Hmm! ~ sounds like a possibility . I wonder if Chuck knows

> anything about this?

>

Actually, yes, a little. My son had a mechanical heart valve implanted

in May, so we learned a lot about the various mechanisms of blood

clotting over the summer. In June, we found he was also hypoT. They are

indeed connected. His INR (prothrombin time: International Normalized

Ratio) changed when he started T4 meds.

Chuck

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