Re: prednisone-asthma/susan help

[Guest guest]

i am new to the group and was struck by susan's response to the prednisone post

as i feel desperate for help with my six-year-old daughter's asthma. in addition

to immune system dysfunction, she has apraxia, allergies, gut malabsorption,

cdiff, yeast, etc. we have been gfdairy free (+staying away from igg

sensitivities as much as possible) and doing biomedical for 1 1/2 years, with no

big wows (kirkman super nu thera, zinc, magnesium, pycogenol, cd biotic, coq10,

carnitall, renwlife critical care, lauricidin, mb12, cd herbal, nystatin,

vitamin c, a, and d, nourish life speak oil, claritin among others).

(considering lysine per genova oat test rec and glutamine).

over the past two months, she has had multiple pneumonias, a hospitalization,

and asthma that doesn't seem to quit. we have been using way too much albuterol

(and have generally since she was 2 years old) and go back and forth on

pulmicort (she was on it a year plus in 2007). it didn't seem to help, but we

are getting a lot of pressure to go back on it again. we started it a few weeks

ago temporarily. in any event, we are considering chelation based upon 2

porphyrin tests (preco 16 and 21/copro 191 and 127). mercury toxicity seems a

little iffy given the copro # which is within range. we also did the genova oat

test with results that i could share if they are any clues... we have ordered

the hair test to get further information.

(by the way our dan states that the preco # isn't as indicative of mercury as

once thought based on a new robert woods paper/study. i haven't seen it yet.)

can you, susan, or anyone else, tell me what helped your child's asthma? any

advice on what we can do right now for her? her breathing has been so bad

lately, that i worry we won't make it to chelating if that is what we decide to

do... did chelating help your asthma? i would greatly appreciate any experienced

advice anyone could share. thank you.

[Guest guest]

> i am new to the group and was struck by susan's response to the prednisone

post as i feel desperate for help with my six-year-old daughter's asthma.

At my house, asthma was caused by milk intolerance [and a few other things] and

yeast in the lungs. The yeast was the worst.

>>(kirkman super nu thera, lauricidin, mb12, vitamin c, a, and d, (considering

lysine

All of these caused a lot of yeast here. If I did most or all of these at the

same time, my son would have required a massive yeast protocol.

> over the past two months, she has had multiple pneumonias, a hospitalization,

and asthma that doesn't seem to quit.

More yeast here.

>>we are considering chelation

This was the first step in finally eliminating yeast overgrowth here, but during

the first 50 rounds, it *increased* yeast. Definitely need to get the yeast

under control before starting.

> can you, susan, or anyone else, tell me what helped your child's asthma?

Asthma entirely eliminated here, primarily with ALA chelation, anti-virals,

biotin and GSE for yeast control, and a few other things. No asthma symptoms

for two years now.

>>any advice on what we can do right now for her?

Try increasing the yeast protocol. The combination of biotin and GSE worked

best here.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I cannot help on the yeast issues because we have only treated topically with

nystatin because the school was keeping diapers on my son, which caused a huge

diaper rash.

In regards to the Asthma, this is what we did.

-Stopped the pulmicort (my son has an immune deficency and this only served to

lower his immune system further making him more susceptible)

-Withdrew him from public school (rather he became homebound per MD orders.)

-Limit his germ exposure by limiting the *TIME* he is out around others (another

MD order) and how many people he is exposed to.

-Asked people (therapists, dotors, relatives, friends) if they were sick OR had

been recently sick...if so, we did not go or they did not come.

-Vitamins (lil critters and extra C, same company)

-Kept him well. If he started to get sick, we hopped on antivirals or

probiotics.

-And one I did not *try* to do, is do not keep your house squeeky clean. The

doctor told me this was actually good because exposure to our *own* germs is

healthy.

-Oh yeah, and the fewer the medicines your child is on, the better. If it is not

life-sustaining (AB's are usually not life sustaining), then he/we do not take

it.

>

> i am new to the group and was struck by susan's response to the prednisone

post as i feel desperate for help with my six-year-old daughter's asthma. in

addition to immune system dysfunction, she has apraxia, allergies, gut

malabsorption, cdiff, yeast, etc. we have been gfdairy free (+staying away from

igg sensitivities as much as possible) and doing biomedical for 1 1/2 years,

with no big wows (kirkman super nu thera, zinc, magnesium, pycogenol, cd biotic,

coq10, carnitall, renwlife critical care, lauricidin, mb12, cd herbal, nystatin,

vitamin c, a, and d, nourish life speak oil, claritin among others).

(considering lysine per genova oat test rec and glutamine).

>

> over the past two months, she has had multiple pneumonias, a hospitalization,

and asthma that doesn't seem to quit. we have been using way too much albuterol

(and have generally since she was 2 years old) and go back and forth on

pulmicort (she was on it a year plus in 2007). it didn't seem to help, but we

are getting a lot of pressure to go back on it again. we started it a few weeks

ago temporarily. in any event, we are considering chelation based upon 2

porphyrin tests (preco 16 and 21/copro 191 and 127). mercury toxicity seems a

little iffy given the copro # which is within range. we also did the genova oat

test with results that i could share if they are any clues... we have ordered

the hair test to get further information.

>

> (by the way our dan states that the preco # isn't as indicative of mercury as

once thought based on a new robert woods paper/study. i haven't seen it yet.)

>

> can you, susan, or anyone else, tell me what helped your child's asthma? any

advice on what we can do right now for her? her breathing has been so bad

lately, that i worry we won't make it to chelating if that is what we decide to

do... did chelating help your asthma? i would greatly appreciate any experienced

advice anyone could share. thank you.

>

[Guest guest]

Dana,

" At my house, asthma was caused by milk intolerance [and a few other things] and

yeast in the lungs. The yeast was the worst. "

How did you find out your son has yeast in the LUNGS???

Any tests or specific symptoms to look for??

My son also having a breathing problem, not sure its yeast or something else...

thanks,

Sasmita

> > i am new to the group and was struck by susan's response to the prednisone

post as i feel desperate for help with my six-year-old daughter's asthma.

>

>

> At my house, asthma was caused by milk intolerance [and a few other things]

and yeast in the lungs. The yeast was the worst.

>

>

> >>(kirkman super nu thera, lauricidin, mb12, vitamin c, a, and d, (considering

lysine

>

>

> All of these caused a lot of yeast here. If I did most or all of these at the

same time, my son would have required a massive yeast protocol.

>

>

> > over the past two months, she has had multiple pneumonias, a

hospitalization, and asthma that doesn't seem to quit.

>

>

> More yeast here.

>

>

> >>we are considering chelation

>

>

> This was the first step in finally eliminating yeast overgrowth here, but

during the first 50 rounds, it *increased* yeast. Definitely need to get the

yeast under control before starting.

>

>

> > can you, susan, or anyone else, tell me what helped your child's asthma?

>

>

> Asthma entirely eliminated here, primarily with ALA chelation, anti-virals,

biotin and GSE for yeast control, and a few other things. No asthma symptoms

for two years now.

>

>

> >>any advice on what we can do right now for her?

>

>

> Try increasing the yeast protocol. The combination of biotin and GSE worked

best here.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

My daughter's asthma has been improving with acupuncture. I found a great

Japanese acupuncturist who does not use needles but magnets to move the energy

and then applies acupressure. He then puts this small stickers with a tiny

yellow magnet in it just for 24 hours. When asthma was bad I would go twice a

week. I live in Boston, MA. You need to find one who treats children.

Mimoza

>

> i am new to the group and was struck by susan's response to the prednisone

post as i feel desperate for help with my six-year-old daughter's asthma. in

addition to immune system dysfunction, she has apraxia, allergies, gut

malabsorption, cdiff, yeast, etc. we have been gfdairy free (+staying away from

igg sensitivities as much as possible) and doing biomedical for 1 1/2 years,

with no big wows (kirkman super nu thera, zinc, magnesium, pycogenol, cd biotic,

coq10, carnitall, renwlife critical care, lauricidin, mb12, cd herbal, nystatin,

vitamin c, a, and d, nourish life speak oil, claritin among others).

(considering lysine per genova oat test rec and glutamine).

>

> over the past two months, she has had multiple pneumonias, a hospitalization,

and asthma that doesn't seem to quit. we have been using way too much albuterol

(and have generally since she was 2 years old) and go back and forth on

pulmicort (she was on it a year plus in 2007). it didn't seem to help, but we

are getting a lot of pressure to go back on it again. we started it a few weeks

ago temporarily. in any event, we are considering chelation based upon 2

porphyrin tests (preco 16 and 21/copro 191 and 127). mercury toxicity seems a

little iffy given the copro # which is within range. we also did the genova oat

test with results that i could share if they are any clues... we have ordered

the hair test to get further information.

>

> (by the way our dan states that the preco # isn't as indicative of mercury as

once thought based on a new robert woods paper/study. i haven't seen it yet.)

>

> can you, susan, or anyone else, tell me what helped your child's asthma? any

advice on what we can do right now for her? her breathing has been so bad

lately, that i worry we won't make it to chelating if that is what we decide to

do... did chelating help your asthma? i would greatly appreciate any experienced

advice anyone could share. thank you.

>

[Guest guest]

> Dana,

> " At my house, asthma was caused by milk intolerance [and a few other things]

and

> yeast in the lungs. The yeast was the worst. "

> How did you find out your son has yeast in the LUNGS???

It was me, not my son.

About four years ago or so, I noticed that sometimes when I had an asthma

attack, I also had yeast symptoms. So I took GSE. I was surprised to discover

that the GSE eliminated the asthma attack also. So the next time I felt an

asthma attack coming on, I immediately took some GSE. Asthma attack went away.

> Any tests or specific symptoms to look for??

> My son also having a breathing problem, not sure its yeast or something

else...

For about a year, milk also gave me asthma attacks. So your child's asthma

might be related to a food. But yeast was a big one here.

Keep going on the biomedical. I have no more asthma here, because of

biomedical.

Dana