Re: IV Chelation for 6 year old

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>

> We just started weekly IV treatments for our 6 year old son. He has had 3

chelation treatments so far.... I am wondering if this treatment would cause

yeast initially? Our son is usually a great sleeper - always has been... 7pm to

6am.... but over the past 3 weeks he has been waking up for several hours

almost every night. It seems that he has some yeast issues, since he has been

very giggly- - and even though i can tell he tries to keep it in - he bursts out

with giggles --and usually has gas along with it (from both ends)....

>

IV chelation is extremely dangerous and your kid will not get better if you

continue. If anything, he will get substantially worse.

> I don't know anyone else who is doing IV chelation and could really use some

advice. I am hopeful that the change in behavior is a sign that the chelation

treatments are working and stirring things up and pulling the bad stuff out of

his body -

>

No his changes in behavior are the result of an inappropriate protocol which is

forcing mercury into his organs. Yeast should be the last of your concerns at

this point.

> but I guess I need a little reassurance that we made the right decision to

chelate. I know we have a long road ahead of us and it's early right now... but

we are going to do whatever we have to do to recover our son... He has made

tremendous improvements over the past 3 years (with help from DAN physician,

supplements, school, etc.)...but we want him back in our world and will keep

fighting until we get him.

>

No chelation is a better route if your going to do IV chelation and not take

chelators on the half life. Your son needs ALA so DMPS(I assume that's what your

using) isn't even necessary but may help. You should really stop this protocol

immediately and start oral chelation with ALA(DMPS or DMSA if you want) every 3

hours including dosing at night.

> Thanks for any advice...

> appreciate it.

> Jo-Ann

>

I hate to be harsh but when it comes to you putting your child at risk of

becoming seriously ill there is no other way. If you want your kid to get better

you really need to think about what you are doing and follow a protocol that

makes sense logically and scientifically(Cutler protocol). This doesn't include

IV chelation or dosing infrequently. You must dose on the half life of the

chelator. ALA clears intracellular mercury which is what is causing the problem.

If your not using ALA the mercury never comes out of the brain. This is coming

from someone with firsthand experience of inappropriate chelation. With the

protocol you are using there is no chance of your kid getting better and a very

good chance of him getting substantially worse.

Adam

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I would not do IV chelation, it stirs up too much of the toxic metals and when

they resettle there is often trouble. Even chelating with a low dose and slowly

requires careful supplementation with vitamins, minerals, EFA's etc. to ensure

essential elements stay functional for detox and there is minimal damage with

redistribution. The candida is kept under control with several supplements that

minimize overgrowth and die-off problems.

I would think the biggest problems with IV chelation are: creating a tremendous

amount of inflammation and new oxidative stress with resettling metals, possibly

inducing seizures, aggression and extreme adrenal fatigue, stressing the heart

and liver. You may find that IV chelation does, at some point, create a problem

that is very difficult to fix.

You should read about Andy's protocol in the files section of this group, it is

much safer.

Liz

>

> We just started weekly IV treatments for our 6 year old son. He has had 3

chelation treatments so far.... I am wondering if this treatment would cause

yeast initially? Our son is usually a great sleeper - always has been... 7pm to

6am.... but over the past 3 weeks he has been waking up for several hours

almost every night. It seems that he has some yeast issues, since he has been

very giggly- - and even though i can tell he tries to keep it in - he bursts out

with giggles --and usually has gas along with it (from both ends)....

>

> I don't know anyone else who is doing IV chelation and could really use some

advice. I am hopeful that the change in behavior is a sign that the chelation

treatments are working and stirring things up and pulling the bad stuff out of

his body -

>

> but I guess I need a little reassurance that we made the right decision to

chelate. I know we have a long road ahead of us and it's early right now... but

we are going to do whatever we have to do to recover our son... He has made

tremendous improvements over the past 3 years (with help from DAN physician,

supplements, school, etc.)...but we want him back in our world and will keep

fighting until we get him.

>

> Thanks for any advice...

> appreciate it.

> Jo-Ann

>

[Guest guest]

As someone who had IV chelation done on my son over the years, I would

advise you against this form of chelation. My son had serious asthma

reactions to this form of chelation, and I feel lucky that nothing worse

happened. Since stopping this form of chelation, we have seen regressions

in our son, most probably from the metals ust getting moved around a

deposited elsewhere. I believe the AC Protocol is the way to go, and we

are preparing to do it this way --low and slow and keeping in mind the time

lines of delivering these chelators so as to avoid redepositing metals. I

urge you to read Andy's book.

IV chelation also became a very harrowing emotional ordeal for our son as he

has deep veins and it was just a nightmare finding a vein, getting one to

cooperate. I was always nervous and afraid doing it this way. My son

always got very sleepy afterward and then would have an asthma attack. The

second reaction snowballed into pneumonia. Just my two cents. Better to do

it safely and slowly than make things worse. My son's stimming had

disappeared by age four, but has now returned with a vengeance.

He also developed a problem with sulfa following IV chelation. he never

broke out in hives eating sulfa containing veggies before, but after his

reaction to IV DMPS, he breaks out in hives if he gets a sulfa drug or

broccoli.

[Guest guest]

I know you are ancious to get your son back, but you are taking a dangerous

chance with IV Chelation.

Z

On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Haven DeLay <hdelay@...> wrote:

>

>

> As someone who had IV chelation done on my son over the years, I would

> advise you against this form of chelation. My son had serious asthma

> reactions to this form of chelation, and I feel lucky that nothing worse

> happened. Since stopping this form of chelation, we have seen regressions

> in our son, most probably from the metals ust getting moved around a

> deposited elsewhere. I believe the AC Protocol is the way to go, and we

> are preparing to do it this way --low and slow and keeping in mind the time

> lines of delivering these chelators so as to avoid redepositing metals. I

> urge you to read Andy's book.

>

> IV chelation also became a very harrowing emotional ordeal for our son as

> he

> has deep veins and it was just a nightmare finding a vein, getting one to

> cooperate. I was always nervous and afraid doing it this way. My son

> always got very sleepy afterward and then would have an asthma attack. The

> second reaction snowballed into pneumonia. Just my two cents. Better to do

> it safely and slowly than make things worse. My son's stimming had

> disappeared by age four, but has now returned with a vengeance.

>

> He also developed a problem with sulfa following IV chelation. he never

> broke out in hives eating sulfa containing veggies before, but after his

> reaction to IV DMPS, he breaks out in hives if he gets a sulfa drug or

> broccoli.

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> We just started weekly IV treatments for our 6 year old son. He has had 3

chelation treatments so far....

Stop them now.

>I am wondering if this treatment would cause yeast initially?

And later. And forever. It can cause lots of horrid long lasting problems.

For typical results, see www.dmpsbackfire.com.

>Our son is usually a great sleeper - always has been... 7pm to 6am.... but

over the past 3 weeks he has been waking up for several hours almost every

night. It seems that he has some yeast issues, since he has been very giggly- -

and even though i can tell he tries to keep it in - he bursts out with giggles

--and usually has gas along with it (from both ends)....

>

> I don't know anyone else who is doing IV chelation

Probably because a lot of people have learned not to let doctors hurt their kids

for money.

First a doctor charged you money to make him autistic with vaccines.

Now a different doctor is charging you money to make him worse with iv

chelation.

>and could really use some advice. I am hopeful that the change in behavior is

a sign that the chelation treatments are working

They're a sign you are hurting your kid. Stop before it is permanent.

>and stirring things up and pulling the bad stuff out of his body -

>

> but I guess I need a little reassurance that we made the right decision to

chelate.

Chelation is the right decision.

How you are doing it is the wrong decision.

> I know we have a long road ahead of us

It's going to get a lot longer and more difficult if you don't stop the IV

chelation and start doing it right ASAP!

> and it's early right now... but we are going to do whatever we have to do to

recover our son...

Then start the every 3-4 hour ALA chelation protocol other people here are

using.

>He has made tremendous improvements over the past 3 years (with help from DAN

physician, supplements, school, etc.)...but we want him back in our world and

will keep fighting until we get him.

Well, you have to avoid doing dramatic things like iv chelation that might make

it impossible for you to do that.

> Thanks for any advice...

> appreciate it.

> Jo-Ann

>

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www.dmpsbackfire.com

Stop doing this. Oral low dose chelation is soooo MUCH safer. Far too many have

found that when they continue IV chelation they end up with a regression that is

often permanent.

Please read and learn low dose Andy Cutler protocol. this will avoid that

problem and keep large doses of chelator from moving mercury all over and

redistributing into where ever.

Jan

>

> We just started weekly IV treatments for our 6 year old son. He has had 3

chelation treatments so far.... I am wondering if this treatment would cause

yeast initially? Our son is usually a great sleeper - always has been... 7pm to

6am.... but over the past 3 weeks he has been waking up for several hours

almost every night. It seems that he has some yeast issues, since he has been

very giggly- - and even though i can tell he tries to keep it in - he bursts out

with giggles --and usually has gas along with it (from both ends)....

>

> I don't know anyone else who is doing IV chelation and could really use some

advice. I am hopeful that the change in behavior is a sign that the chelation

treatments are working and stirring things up and pulling the bad stuff out of

his body -

>

> but I guess I need a little reassurance that we made the right decision to

chelate. I know we have a long road ahead of us and it's early right now... but

we are going to do whatever we have to do to recover our son... He has made

tremendous improvements over the past 3 years (with help from DAN physician,

supplements, school, etc.)...but we want him back in our world and will keep

fighting until we get him.

>

> Thanks for any advice...

> appreciate it.

> Jo-Ann

>

[Guest guest]

I agree. Fortunately someone cared enough to refer me to this group so that

I can help my patients do it the right way. Thanks Dr. Cutler for your

assistance to all of us and your research.

On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 7:57 PM, andrewhallcutler <AndyCutler@...> wrote:

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>

>

>

>

> >

> > We just started weekly IV treatments for our 6 year old son. He has had 3

> chelation treatments so far....

>

> Stop them now.

>

>

> >I am wondering if this treatment would cause yeast initially?

>

> And later. And forever. It can cause lots of horrid long lasting problems.

> For typical results, see www.dmpsbackfire.com.

>

>

> >Our son is usually a great sleeper - always has been... 7pm to 6am.... but

> over the past 3 weeks he has been waking up for several hours almost every

> night. It seems that he has some yeast issues, since he has been very

> giggly- - and even though i can tell he tries to keep it in - he bursts out

> with giggles --and usually has gas along with it (from both ends)....

> >

> > I don't know anyone else who is doing IV chelation

>

> Probably because a lot of people have learned not to let doctors hurt their

> kids for money.

>

> First a doctor charged you money to make him autistic with vaccines.

>

> Now a different doctor is charging you money to make him worse with iv

> chelation.

>

>

> >and could really use some advice. I am hopeful that the change in behavior

> is a sign that the chelation treatments are working

>

> They're a sign you are hurting your kid. Stop before it is permanent.

>

>

> >and stirring things up and pulling the bad stuff out of his body -

> >

> > but I guess I need a little reassurance that we made the right decision

> to chelate.

>

> Chelation is the right decision.

>

> How you are doing it is the wrong decision.

>

>

> > I know we have a long road ahead of us

>

> It's going to get a lot longer and more difficult if you don't stop the IV

> chelation and start doing it right ASAP!

>

>

> > and it's early right now... but we are going to do whatever we have to do

> to recover our son...

>

> Then start the every 3-4 hour ALA chelation protocol other people here are

> using.

>

>

> >He has made tremendous improvements over the past 3 years (with help from

> DAN physician, supplements, school, etc.)...but we want him back in our

> world and will keep fighting until we get him.

>

> Well, you have to avoid doing dramatic things like iv chelation that might

> make it impossible for you to do that.

>

>

> > Thanks for any advice...

> > appreciate it.

> > Jo-Ann

> >

> Andy

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

> Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

> Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

> Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

>

>

>

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I'm sorry to jump on the band wagon. Please do not feel attacked. I did exactly

what you are doing on the advice of my DAN when my son was 3. At first we saw a

couple improvements which had me believing we were on the right track. Over time

the improvements stopped and bad things started to happen. Head banging came

first, followed by regression, excess stimming and strange rashes. My DAN

explained away all of the negatives by saying he was having " die off " and that

eventually things would turn around. We did this weekly for 6 months. I posted

to this group and they told me to stop. I didn't listen. I am sick to my stomach

every time I think of the months we did more damage to my son than had already

been done previously by vaccines.

I felt like the people on this group were a bit fanatic about the AC Protocol

and that this " underground " movement couldn't possibly know as much as my DAN. I

was very wrong. The people here are saving their kids and trying to help others

save theirs.

We gave my son a break for a couple months and then started on the AC Protocol

following Andy's advice on dosing and supplements. We use DMSA and ALA together

every 3 hours Friday thru Mondays. We are on round 48 and I can honestly say

that the improvement my son has made since we started AC has been amazing.

He is not cured by any means - he is 4 now and is just putting together a few 2

word phrases. He was totally non-verbal before starting AC. His head banging is

gone now. We have a very long way to go but I feel good about the way we're

chelating now.

I have a lot of guilt about having done IV chelation. I wonder how much more

damage I may have done to him and how much further along he might be today had

it done it properly the first time. I was misguided but I hope that you will

listen to the people on this board now and stop the path you are on.

I am happy to talk to you off line if you would like. Feel free to email me

directly.

Elise in San

elise.graziano@...

>

> We just started weekly IV treatments for our 6 year old son. He has had 3

chelation treatments so far.... I am wondering if this treatment would cause

yeast initially? Our son is usually a great sleeper - always has been... 7pm to

6am.... but over the past 3 weeks he has been waking up for several hours

almost every night. It seems that he has some yeast issues, since he has been

very giggly- - and even though i can tell he tries to keep it in - he bursts out

with giggles --and usually has gas along with it (from both ends)....

>

> I don't know anyone else who is doing IV chelation and could really use some

advice. I am hopeful that the change in behavior is a sign that the chelation

treatments are working and stirring things up and pulling the bad stuff out of

his body -

>

> but I guess I need a little reassurance that we made the right decision to

chelate. I know we have a long road ahead of us and it's early right now... but

we are going to do whatever we have to do to recover our son... He has made

tremendous improvements over the past 3 years (with help from DAN physician,

supplements, school, etc.)...but we want him back in our world and will keep

fighting until we get him.

>

> Thanks for any advice...

> appreciate it.

> Jo-Ann

>