Re: Sudden paleness/ Now low blood pressure

January 1, 2010

Pam that is interesting, a friend and I from this board were just discussing

that we also have always had the low blood pressure too. Our children have a

very similar medical history. As I recall, your child's history is similar to

ours. I wonder if the low blood pressure is a sign of metals toxicity. I can't

remember if I read this anywhere, it would seem that having a low blood cell

count or anemia might be a cofactor.

Liz

> >

> > This has to do with blood pressure..My brother once accidentally stabbed

himself in the end of his finger with a pocket knife, was a deep wound, but

didn't bleed for long..he 'went into shock' from this and was very scary

watching him go in and out of consciesness and speaking 'drivel'...he later

recalled having a 'horrible dreamlike/nightmare unlike that ofÂ any other he had

ever had whilst sleeping'. I have also had the same thing happen to me from just

being winded. The body does funny things in these kind of situations, I believe

to 'protect us'.

> > Exerpt: 'Neurally Mediated Hypertension', which is Low blood pressure, can

occur if you have an unpleasant, upsetting or scary experience.

> > Donna

> > Aussie mum to C-ASD-5

> > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â J-NT-9

> >

> > Â

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: " Mum231ASD@ " <Mum231ASD@>

> >

> > Sent: Thu, 31 December, 2009 9:11:17 PM

> > Subject: Re: [ ] Sudden paleness & lips turning white after a

minor injury

> >

> > Â

> >

> > In a message dated 30/12/2009 23:38:23 GMT Standard Time,

> > mam78numericable (DOT) fr writes:

> >

> > DH & I reassured him that it was a minor cut & no problem at all, that he

> > wouldn't need to go to the hospital but I noticed that he got VERY pale

> > suddenly and his lips were totally white. I put a bandaid on him and

reassured

> > him some more but he went to lie down and noticed that he was sweaty,

> > especially on his head. The colour returned to his lips after about 3

minutes

> > but he seemed really knocked out by the scare and almost fell asleep

> > afterwards.

> >

> > >>This sounds to me like classic SHOCK which I believe is related to

> > adrenalin somehow. I have been in shock when I cut the top of my finger off,

its

> > outwith your control even if people are explaining things and being nice

> >

> > Mandi in UK

> >

January 1, 2010

Re: [ ] Sudden paleness & lips turning white after a

minor injury

> >

> > Â

> >

> > In a message dated 30/12/2009 23:38:23 GMT Standard Time,

> > mam78numericable (DOT) fr writes:

> >

> > DH & I reassured him that it was a minor cut & no problem at all, that he

> > wouldn't need to go to the hospital but I noticed that he got VERY pale

> > suddenly and his lips were totally white. I put a bandaid on him and

reassured

> > him some more but he went to lie down and noticed that he was sweaty,

> > especially on his head. The colour returned to his lips after about 3

minutes

> > but he seemed really knocked out by the scare and almost fell asleep

> > afterwards.

> >

> > >>This sounds to me like classic SHOCK which I believe is related to

> > adrenalin somehow. I have been in shock when I cut the top of my finger

off, its

> > outwith your control even if people are explaining things and being nice

> >

> > Mandi in UK

> >

January 1, 2010

Adrenals.....

jan

> > >

> > > This has to do with blood pressure..My brother once accidentally stabbed

himself in the end of his finger with a pocket knife, was a deep wound, but

didn't bleed for long..he 'went into shock' from this and was very scary

watching him go in and out of consciesness and speaking 'drivel'...he later

recalled having a 'horrible dreamlike/nightmare unlike that ofÂ any other he had

ever had whilst sleeping'. I have also had the same thing happen to me from just

being winded. The body does funny things in these kind of situations, I believe

to 'protect us'.

> > > Exerpt: 'Neurally Mediated Hypertension', which is Low blood pressure, can

occur if you have an unpleasant, upsetting or scary experience.

> > > Donna

> > > Aussie mum to C-ASD-5

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â J-NT-9

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: " Mum231ASD@ " <Mum231ASD@>

> > >

> > > Sent: Thu, 31 December, 2009 9:11:17 PM

> > > Subject: Re: [ ] Sudden paleness & lips turning white after a

minor injury

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > In a message dated 30/12/2009 23:38:23 GMT Standard Time,

> > > mam78numericable (DOT) fr writes:

> > >

> > > DH & I reassured him that it was a minor cut & no problem at all, that he

> > > wouldn't need to go to the hospital but I noticed that he got VERY pale

> > > suddenly and his lips were totally white. I put a bandaid on him and

reassured

> > > him some more but he went to lie down and noticed that he was sweaty,

> > > especially on his head. The colour returned to his lips after about 3

minutes

> > > but he seemed really knocked out by the scare and almost fell asleep

> > > afterwards.

> > >

> > > >>This sounds to me like classic SHOCK which I believe is related to

> > > adrenalin somehow. I have been in shock when I cut the top of my finger

off, its

> > > outwith your control even if people are explaining things and being nice

> > >

> > > Mandi in UK

> > >

January 1, 2010

This explains a lot for me. I had a flu shot during my second trimester with my

asd child. My third trimester was awful. I had super high BP, swoller feet and

ankles and constant headaches. I gained 70lbs as well. I took Tylenol because

the doctor told me it was safe for me to take for my constant headaches. Gee, I

wonder why my daughter has autism?

I had no idea the high BP was from mercury. This actually makes me feel sort of

better now knowing that we are chelating it out.

> > >

> > > This has to do with blood pressure..My brother once accidentally stabbed

himself in the end of his finger with a pocket knife, was a deep wound, but

didn't bleed for long..he 'went into shock' from this and was very scary

watching him go in and out of consciesness and speaking 'drivel'...he later

recalled having a 'horrible dreamlike/nightmare unlike that ofÂ any other he had

ever had whilst sleeping'. I have also had the same thing happen to me from just

being winded. The body does funny things in these kind of situations, I believe

to 'protect us'.

> > > Exerpt: 'Neurally Mediated Hypertension', which is Low blood pressure,

can occur if you have an unpleasant, upsetting or scary experience.

> > > Donna

> > > Aussie mum to C-ASD-5

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â J-NT-9

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: " Mum231ASD@ " <Mum231ASD@>

> > >

> > > Sent: Thu, 31 December, 2009 9:11:17 PM

> > > Subject: Re: [ ] Sudden paleness & lips turning white after

a minor injury

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > In a message dated 30/12/2009 23:38:23 GMT Standard Time,

> > > mam78numericable (DOT) fr writes:

> > >

> > > DH & I reassured him that it was a minor cut & no problem at all, that

he

> > > wouldn't need to go to the hospital but I noticed that he got VERY pale

> > > suddenly and his lips were totally white. I put a bandaid on him and

reassured

> > > him some more but he went to lie down and noticed that he was sweaty,

> > > especially on his head. The colour returned to his lips after about 3

minutes

> > > but he seemed really knocked out by the scare and almost fell asleep

> > > afterwards.

> > >

> > > >>This sounds to me like classic SHOCK which I believe is related to

> > > adrenalin somehow. I have been in shock when I cut the top of my finger

off, its

> > > outwith your control even if people are explaining things and being nice

> > >

> > > Mandi in UK

> > >

January 1, 2010

My son's pressure isn't low, but perhaps that comes in adulthood? I don't know.

I've been borderline anemic in the past and just found that adding iron to my

supplements (6mg) has been helpful. Don't know my iron status these days.

I'm sure there are several subgroups out there with similar profiles. That is

what makes this all so fascinating and frustrating at the same time... PLUS it

is what makes groups like this so valuable... to find those like you and share

information.

P

> > >

> > > This has to do with blood pressure..My brother once accidentally stabbed

himself in the end of his finger with a pocket knife, was a deep wound, but

didn't bleed for long..he 'went into shock' from this and was very scary

watching him go in and out of consciesness and speaking 'drivel'...he later

recalled having a 'horrible dreamlike/nightmare unlike that ofÂ any other he had

ever had whilst sleeping'. I have also had the same thing happen to me from just

being winded. The body does funny things in these kind of situations, I believe

to 'protect us'.

> > > Exerpt: 'Neurally Mediated Hypertension', which is Low blood pressure, can

occur if you have an unpleasant, upsetting or scary experience.

> > > Donna

> > > Aussie mum to C-ASD-5

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â J-NT-9

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: " Mum231ASD@ " <Mum231ASD@>

> > >

> > > Sent: Thu, 31 December, 2009 9:11:17 PM

> > > Subject: Re: [ ] Sudden paleness & lips turning white after a

minor injury

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > In a message dated 30/12/2009 23:38:23 GMT Standard Time,

> > > mam78numericable (DOT) fr writes:

> > >

> > > DH & I reassured him that it was a minor cut & no problem at all, that he

> > > wouldn't need to go to the hospital but I noticed that he got VERY pale

> > > suddenly and his lips were totally white. I put a bandaid on him and

reassured

> > > him some more but he went to lie down and noticed that he was sweaty,

> > > especially on his head. The colour returned to his lips after about 3

minutes

> > > but he seemed really knocked out by the scare and almost fell asleep

> > > afterwards.

> > >

> > > >>This sounds to me like classic SHOCK which I believe is related to

> > > adrenalin somehow. I have been in shock when I cut the top of my finger

off, its

> > > outwith your control even if people are explaining things and being nice

> > >

> > > Mandi in UK

> > >

January 2, 2010

Your flu shot during pregnancy story is the same as mine. Flu shot during 3rd

month, though. Pregnancy was typical and then I had the flu shot and within 24

hours migraines and swelling began. Until my son regressed at age 4 after one of

HIS flu shots, I never even connected it!! Regrettably, I trusted our medical

system.

I was told to take Tylenol, put on bedrest with compression stockings. My

feet/legs swelled so much I went from a shoe size 8.5M to 11W while pregnant. I

had high BP for me, but not according to the OB. I also had severe heartburn

during this time and was told to take as many OTC antacids as needed to get

through - after all the calcium in them will be " good for the baby " .

I know for us it was not just the mercury, though. I have been extremely and

severely sensitive to MSG for years - and knew that before pregnancy and TOLD

the OB. I still was badgered about the flu shot, and I was an uninformed sheeple

who trusted my doctor. I'd never had a flu shot before then but was told by the

OB that if I didn't get one and I got the flu my baby would be brain damaged.

How ironic.

Everyone thinks the flu shot is just " common sense " , it's pushed every year on

everyone, especially on pregnant women, and it is so toxic! When flu shot season

rolls around I spend the fall/winter in agony as I watch the carnage take place

- family members and friends get the shots, the elderly and kids at the

supermarket, at the schools. We are ruining the future of humans.

> > > >

> > > > This has to do with blood pressure..My brother once accidentally

stabbed himself in the end of his finger with a pocket knife, was a deep wound,

but didn't bleed for long..he 'went into shock' from this and was very scary

watching him go in and out of consciesness and speaking 'drivel'...he later

recalled having a 'horrible dreamlike/nightmare unlike that ofÂ any other he had

ever had whilst sleeping'. I have also had the same thing happen to me from just

being winded. The body does funny things in these kind of situations, I believe

to 'protect us'.

> > > > Exerpt: 'Neurally Mediated Hypertension', which is Low blood pressure,

can occur if you have an unpleasant, upsetting or scary experience.

> > > > Donna

> > > > Aussie mum to C-ASD-5

> > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â J-NT-9

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > From: " Mum231ASD@ " <Mum231ASD@>

> > > >

> > > > Sent: Thu, 31 December, 2009 9:11:17 PM

> > > > Subject: Re: [ ] Sudden paleness & lips turning white

after a minor injury

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 30/12/2009 23:38:23 GMT Standard Time,

> > > > mam78numericable (DOT) fr writes:

> > > >

> > > > DH & I reassured him that it was a minor cut & no problem at all, that

he

> > > > wouldn't need to go to the hospital but I noticed that he got VERY

pale

> > > > suddenly and his lips were totally white. I put a bandaid on him and

reassured

> > > > him some more but he went to lie down and noticed that he was sweaty,

> > > > especially on his head. The colour returned to his lips after about 3

minutes

> > > > but he seemed really knocked out by the scare and almost fell asleep

> > > > afterwards.

> > > >

> > > > >>This sounds to me like classic SHOCK which I believe is related to

> > > > adrenalin somehow. I have been in shock when I cut the top of my

finger off, its

> > > > outwith your control even if people are explaining things and being

nice

> > > >

> > > > Mandi in UK

> > > >

January 2, 2010

I was put on bedrest also. I was a nurse at the time and the other nurses where

I work told me the same thing about the shot. They said that if I get the flu,

the baby would either be brain damaged or die. Wow, looks like they were wrong.

My daughter never regressed, she just never really progressed. She hit a few

important milestones, but just stopped at a certain point. She never reached for

things like normal babies do. I had no idea because she was my first.

I have always had issues with MSG as well. It always gave me headaches. I'd

never had a flu shot before that one either and like a sheep was scared into it.

It's the biggest regret of my life.

> > > > >

> > > > > This has to do with blood pressure..My brother once accidentally

stabbed himself in the end of his finger with a pocket knife, was a deep wound,

but didn't bleed for long..he 'went into shock' from this and was very scary

watching him go in and out of consciesness and speaking 'drivel'...he later

recalled having a 'horrible dreamlike/nightmare unlike that ofÂ any other he had

ever had whilst sleeping'. I have also had the same thing happen to me from just

being winded. The body does funny things in these kind of situations, I believe

to 'protect us'.

> > > > > Exerpt: 'Neurally Mediated Hypertension', which is Low blood

pressure, can occur if you have an unpleasant, upsetting or scary experience.

> > > > > Donna

> > > > > Aussie mum to C-ASD-5

> > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â J-NT-9

> > > > >

> > > > > Â

> > > > >

> > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > From: " Mum231ASD@ " <Mum231ASD@>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sent: Thu, 31 December, 2009 9:11:17 PM

> > > > > Subject: Re: [ ] Sudden paleness & lips turning white

after a minor injury

> > > > >

> > > > > Â

> > > > >

> > > > > In a message dated 30/12/2009 23:38:23 GMT Standard Time,

> > > > > mam78numericable (DOT) fr writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > DH & I reassured him that it was a minor cut & no problem at all,

that he

> > > > > wouldn't need to go to the hospital but I noticed that he got VERY

pale

> > > > > suddenly and his lips were totally white. I put a bandaid on him and

reassured

> > > > > him some more but he went to lie down and noticed that he was

sweaty,

> > > > > especially on his head. The colour returned to his lips after about

3 minutes

> > > > > but he seemed really knocked out by the scare and almost fell asleep

> > > > > afterwards.

> > > > >

> > > > > >>This sounds to me like classic SHOCK which I believe is related to

> > > > > adrenalin somehow. I have been in shock when I cut the top of my

finger off, its

> > > > > outwith your control even if people are explaining things and being

nice

> > > > >

> > > > > Mandi in UK

> > > > >

January 2, 2010

I told my husband I wanted to picket outside the walgreens and hold up a sign

about mercury poisoning. He said that was going to far. I think about it every

time I see the " Get your H1N1 here " sign. I thought about making my own sign

like " What's worse, the flu or life long immune issues and autism? " Or maybe "

Would you inject your baby with lead? Mercury is more toxic. " My husband would

think I really lost it. Bad enough I already lecture his friends about

vaccines. LOL Sad thing is most people think those anti-vaccine moms are a

little wacky, until it hits home. My hubby's friend warned us about her son's

autism and vaccines when I was pregnant with my son. I thought, " Poor woman,

the stress of a disabled kid must make her wanna blame someone. " Wish now I

would have listened to her.

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From: mosaictm <sunshine369@...>

Sent: Sat, January 2, 2010 9:00:09 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Sudden paleness/ Now low blood pressure