DO these supplements look ok to start? Day one today

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Jo and others,

Thanks...So you think 12.5 is too high to start?   I actually think I am

giving more like 10 or so because I mistakingly got the 50mg capsules, so I had

to open them up and split them up into 4th  and some sticks in the capsule. 

He seems a bit hyper today, but happy, no anxiety at all....just majorly

hyper...but that may be do to all these supplements that he is not use to.   

I have him on the following: Do these supplements look ok?

Vit E 125mg 4x a day (garden of life)

Vit B Complex 3x a day (Garden of life)

Vit C 500mg 4x a day (Time release buffered)

Biotin 300mg 2x a day

Thera Response Kirkmans Mulit 2x a day

Multi mineral 2x a day

Zinc 10mg 2x a day

Borage Oil 1x a day

Fermented CLO 1x a day

Milk Thistle 1x a day

Magnesium 3x a day

Plan on using charcoal after last dose

Oil of Oregano 2x a day

Thanks a bunch

From: detoxhealing <detoxhealing@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: DMSA / ALA Ratio? What is best 2:1 or 1:2

Date: Saturday, October 16, 2010, 12:03 AM

 

One of my boys is also 65 lbs. and he's done nearly 30 rounds. We got to

16mg ALA/10mg DMPS (rx) no problem, but 16mg ALA/25mg DMSA was not good. He has

yeast and underlying infections which become more of a problem because a lot of

DMSA lowers neutrophils. I am chelating three kids and in our family we use

more ALA and less DMSA. Andy has said that 5mg DMSA will still pull some lead,

so I will use 16mg ALA/5mg DMSA next time. But there are others who are fine

with 2:1.

Sorry if this is confusing! Having said all that, 12.5mg ALA might be a little

high for the first round. You might want to do 10mg.

Cheers,

Jo

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why no manganese?

From: billymadison303 <billymadison303@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: DO these supplements look ok to start? Day one

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Date: Saturday, October 16, 2010, 7:30 PM

 

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Because it causes problems very similar to mercury and there is no reason to

supplement it unless there is a clear need for it that cannot be achieved

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Hi ,

Adding comments with a * as I trimmed the text from the earlier message reply...

> > > Vit E 125mg 4x a day (garden of life)

> > E is fat soluble once a day is fine

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> > > Vit B Complex 3x a day (Garden of life)

> > Don't give at night since many get insomnia from them. I'd suggest 2x daily

you don't want to overdo the B vitamins.

> > > Vit C 500mg 4x a day (Time release buffered)

> > > Biotin 300mg 2x a day

* Is this 300mcg? You can go higher than that, but it's probably also in your

B Complex.

> > > Thera Response Kirkmans Mulit 2x a day

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> > Make sure these don't have ALA, Copper, iron or manganese. Unless you know

he needs copper or iron or manganese avoid them.

> > > Zinc 10mg 2x a day

* Zinc can be higher, try giving 3-4x a day and gradually upping the amount. It

may lower adrenal output though, in which case you can consider Adrenal Cortex

Extract

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* Best to give this with the vitamin E, which prevents lipid peroxidation

> > > Milk Thistle 1x a day

* Not sure your dose, but we give this 3x a day

> > > Magnesium 3x a day

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> > > Oil of Oregano 2x a day

* If this is enough to handle yeast for you, then great.

Jo

[Guest guest]

Jo,

Thanks.....I guess I need to take out the mulit mineral and thera response as

they both have iron, copper, and manganese....

Should I add anything else?  I will up the zinc....  Should I add moly,

iodine?

Thanks

From: detoxhealing <detoxhealing@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: DO these supplements look ok to start? Day one

today

Date: Saturday, October 16, 2010, 8:56 PM

 

Hi ,

Adding comments with a * as I trimmed the text from the earlier message reply...

> > > Vit E 125mg 4x a day (garden of life)

> > E is fat soluble once a day is fine

> >

> > > Vit B Complex 3x a day (Garden of life)

> > Don't give at night since many get insomnia from them. I'd suggest 2x daily

you don't want to overdo the B vitamins.

> > > Vit C 500mg 4x a day (Time release buffered)

> > > Biotin 300mg 2x a day

* Is this 300mcg? You can go higher than that, but it's probably also in your

B Complex.

> > > Thera Response Kirkmans Mulit 2x a day

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> > > Multi mineral 2x a day

> > Make sure these don't have ALA, Copper, iron or manganese. Unless you know

he needs copper or iron or manganese avoid them.

> > > Zinc 10mg 2x a day

* Zinc can be higher, try giving 3-4x a day and gradually upping the amount. It

may lower adrenal output though, in which case you can consider Adrenal Cortex

Extract

> > > Borage Oil 1x a day

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> > > Fermented CLO 1x a day

* Best to give this with the vitamin E, which prevents lipid peroxidation

> > > Milk Thistle 1x a day

* Not sure your dose, but we give this 3x a day

> > > Magnesium 3x a day

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> > > Plan on using charcoal after last dose

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> > > Oil of Oregano 2x a day

* If this is enough to handle yeast for you, then great.

Jo

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> Vit E 125mg 4x a day (garden of life)

> Vit B Complex 3x a day (Garden of life)

> Vit C 500mg 4x a day (Time release buffered)

> Biotin 300mg 2x a day

> Thera Response Kirkmans Mulit 2x a day

> Multi mineral 2x a day

> Zinc 10mg 2x a day

> Borage Oil 1x a day

> Fermented CLO 1x a day

> Milk Thistle 1x a day

> Magnesium 3x a day

> Plan on using charcoal after last dose

> Oil of Oregano 2x a day

Most of those caused a lot of yeast here, and don't see much to help with the

yeast. Yeast can cause hyper.

Do you mean 300mg of biotin, or 300mcg?

How much oil of oregano is each dose?

Dana

[Guest guest]

Did you like the results from using prescription meds for yeast control? What

did you think worked the best for you as a natural remedy? Thanks

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From: danasview <danasview@...>

Sent: Sun, October 17, 2010 11:00:50 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: DO these supplements look ok to start? Day one

today

 

> Vit E 125mg 4x a day (garden of life)

> Vit B Complex 3x a day (Garden of life)

> Vit C 500mg 4x a day (Time release buffered)

> Biotin 300mg 2x a day

> Thera Response Kirkmans Mulit 2x a day

> Multi mineral 2x a day

> Zinc 10mg 2x a day

> Borage Oil 1x a day

> Fermented CLO 1x a day

> Milk Thistle 1x a day

> Magnesium 3x a day

> Plan on using charcoal after last dose

> Oil of Oregano 2x a day

Most of those caused a lot of yeast here, and don't see much to help with the

yeast. Yeast can cause hyper.

Do you mean 300mg of biotin, or 300mcg?

How much oil of oregano is each dose?

Dana

[Guest guest]

We tried Diflucan and Nystatin with no success. My son has been on Amphotericin

B for 3 weeks and we see major improvements in attention, eye contact and

speech. We plan on trying some harder drugs as soon as we get liver and kidney

test results back.

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[ ] Re: DO these supplements look ok to start? Day one

today

 

> Vit E 125mg 4x a day (garden of life)

> Vit B Complex 3x a day (Garden of life)

> Vit C 500mg 4x a day (Time release buffered)

> Biotin 300mg 2x a day

> Thera Response Kirkmans Mulit 2x a day

> Multi mineral 2x a day

> Zinc 10mg 2x a day

> Borage Oil 1x a day

> Fermented CLO 1x a day

> Milk Thistle 1x a day

> Magnesium 3x a day

> Plan on using charcoal after last dose

> Oil of Oregano 2x a day

Most of those caused a lot of yeast here, and don't see much to help with the

yeast. Yeast can cause hyper.

Do you mean 300mg of biotin, or 300mcg?

How much oil of oregano is each dose?

Dana

[Guest guest]

What brand multi do you suggest that doesn't contian iron,copper,or manganese?

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From: Wrenn <ajwrenn@...>

Sent: Sat, October 16, 2010 9:26:45 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: DO these supplements look ok to start? Day one

today

 

Jo,

Thanks.....I guess I need to take out the mulit mineral and thera response as

they both have iron, copper, and manganese....

Should I add anything else?  I will up the zinc....  Should I add moly,

iodine?

Thanks

From: detoxhealing <detoxhealing@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: DO these supplements look ok to start? Day one

today

Date: Saturday, October 16, 2010, 8:56 PM

 

Hi ,

Adding comments with a * as I trimmed the text from the earlier message reply...

> > > Vit E 125mg 4x a day (garden of life)

> > E is fat soluble once a day is fine

> >

> > > Vit B Complex 3x a day (Garden of life)

> > Don't give at night since many get insomnia from them. I'd suggest 2x daily

>you don't want to overdo the B vitamins.

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> > > Vit C 500mg 4x a day (Time release buffered)

> > > Biotin 300mg 2x a day

* Is this 300mcg? You can go higher than that, but it's probably also in your B

Complex.

> > > Thera Response Kirkmans Mulit 2x a day

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> > > Multi mineral 2x a day

> > Make sure these don't have ALA, Copper, iron or manganese. Unless you know

he

>needs copper or iron or manganese avoid them.

>

> > > Zinc 10mg 2x a day

* Zinc can be higher, try giving 3-4x a day and gradually upping the amount. It

may lower adrenal output though, in which case you can consider Adrenal Cortex

Extract

> > > Borage Oil 1x a day

> >

> > > Fermented CLO 1x a day

* Best to give this with the vitamin E, which prevents lipid peroxidation

> > > Milk Thistle 1x a day

* Not sure your dose, but we give this 3x a day

> > > Magnesium 3x a day

> >

> > > Plan on using charcoal after last dose

> >

> > > Oil of Oregano 2x a day

* If this is enough to handle yeast for you, then great.

Jo

[Guest guest]

I don't personally use or suggest you use a multi because you won't know what

your kid is reacting to if he does. It's a lot easier for me to take everything

separately and add them in one at a time because I am very supplement

intolerant. For these reasons I suggest you give things separate. If I had to

suggest one I'd say life extension mix w/o copper. It does have NAC in it so

that will probably be a problem. There really isn't a good answer and it's best

to take the basics separately. C, E, Zinc, Mg, Milk thistle, Fish/flax.

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> Subject: [ ] Re: DO these supplements look ok to start? Day one

> today

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> Date: Saturday, October 16, 2010, 8:56 PM

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> Hi ,

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> Adding comments with a * as I trimmed the text from the earlier message

reply...

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> > > > Vit E 125mg 4x a day (garden of life)

>

> > > E is fat soluble once a day is fine

>

> > >

>

> > > > Vit B Complex 3x a day (Garden of life)

>

> > > Don't give at night since many get insomnia from them. I'd suggest 2x

daily

> >you don't want to overdo the B vitamins.

> >

>

> > > > Vit C 500mg 4x a day (Time release buffered)

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> > > > Biotin 300mg 2x a day

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> * Is this 300mcg? You can go higher than that, but it's probably also in your

B

> Complex.

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> > > > Thera Response Kirkmans Mulit 2x a day

>

> > >

>

> > > > Multi mineral 2x a day

>

> > > Make sure these don't have ALA, Copper, iron or manganese. Unless you know

he

> >needs copper or iron or manganese avoid them.

> >

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> > > > Zinc 10mg 2x a day

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> * Zinc can be higher, try giving 3-4x a day and gradually upping the amount.

It

> may lower adrenal output though, in which case you can consider Adrenal Cortex

> Extract

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> > > > Borage Oil 1x a day

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> > >

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> > > > Fermented CLO 1x a day

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> * Best to give this with the vitamin E, which prevents lipid peroxidation

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> > > > Milk Thistle 1x a day

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> * Not sure your dose, but we give this 3x a day

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> > > > Magnesium 3x a day

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> > > > Plan on using charcoal after last dose

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> > > > Oil of Oregano 2x a day

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> * If this is enough to handle yeast for you, then great.

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> Jo

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> What brand multi do you suggest that doesn't contian iron,copper,or manganese?

I could not use a multi vitamin or mineral. I gave everything individually.

Dana