Re: Fw: call to senate for passing bill covering autism in michigan

[Guest guest]

Hi deebiga and All,

That might be the socialist (social?) way of doing things, politically

socialist, perhaps? I myself feel that having more laws is not *just,* (is

abusive) especially where ignorance of the law is no excuse, and there are more

laws now than anyone knows or could know, (so they are used as those who know as

much would use them? and for whom, not so justly? of abuse, but what else, I

have calculated) what good ABA would be in a world heading down that road or

promoting as much

I don't feel cognitive orienting ABA would tolerate such a development, of the

analysis of behavior for what it (of the individual and All of as much?) is

looking for and needs, I mean

I'm especially OK with freedom of expression (to conquer all that would be so

confusing otherwise? otherwise of a law of as much?) so here's to you (of ABA's

yield where it would be worth anything at All? I'd be thinkin', as feelin') in

that respect, of the cognitive, if you will, that you wouldn't want your

children to get so far.. . (Where you were? .. .

I try to stay out of politics as much as possible in that respect, (of its

inherent conflicts of interests?!.) of promoting what I have found ABA to be

actually about, as of the individual for what an Individual can understand, (for

his or her self, of Individualism? perhaps) that anything else could understand

more at all otherwise.

Best wishes, T.

Mike Glavic

A simplification for understanding more, that ABA should be about anything

else.. .

You'd be right if you gathered I feel things are abusive the way they are, (and

are going, also with your help? of ignorance, perhaps) especially without my

two-cents to reconcile as much, that there would be any more reasonable way to

reconcile as much? .. . Where teachers are not qualified to do ABA they are not

qualified to teach, is my view. (That " group " therapy is just, or something

else, for something else?) That'd be the more pressing problem is my sense of

It, of making better sure what we claim (and say) we have we have (and mean) and

enforcing what is just, Thereof

You could say this is about that and why I will not be supporting any more laws.

I would consider " less " laws, of narrowing them down to make sense, that ABA

wouldn't be about that?!. (Hello)

That would be a vote for exercising if not enforcing/reinforcing what is

necessary, that already exists? that already is more than adequately represented

by the laws we have or understand, is my sense of It. (Of this?!.) Don't be

fooled by more laws and what that, of as much, would truly mean, otherwise?

On simplifying things for understanding more, (for the Individual?!. and All,

that that wouldn't be what All is about) that anything else would matter or be

so just.

We need to call the abuses we have (including our laws and education system) for

what they are and deal with them, I Feel as understand.

I figure that would go a long way (if not the longest way) in dealing with our

problems.

That I need to play games with politicians (otherwise?). No, I Feel as

understand.. .

Where we understood justice (from trying to understand more, for our selves?)

and served It (in telling it like it is?) there wouldn't be the BS we have now

is my sense of It. That, I Feel, will not change with more laws or whatever.

BWT.

File this? It doesn't come as easy as you think?!. what I *Feel,* that I felt

for, Thereof

More hopefully that will be our position now, of as much

>

>

>

>

>

> ----- Forwarded Message ----

> From: Vedanth Jembu <vedanthjembu@...>

> ; GFCFKids

> Sent: Sat, October 16, 2010 11:08:18 AM

> Subject: call to senate for passing bill covering autism in michigan

>

>

> Hai everybody

>

> It is a request for everybody in this group regarding the process to push

> passing of bill for coverage of ABA therapy in michigan.

>

> Please consider calling Senate Majority Leader, Mike Bishop in Lansing today

if

> you want to help families dealing with autism! Five minutes of your day can

help

> get the bills passed that will help 15,000 children and families affected by

> autism. This is too good of a chance to pass up!

> The following information is from the group Autism Insurance in Michigan

> (http://autisminsurancemi.blogspot.com/), a group that has been working to get

> HB 4183 and HB 4476 passed.

> Here’s How You Can Help:

> 1. Call Senate Majority Leader Mike Bishop and ask him to move autism

insurance

> reform legislation forward now. Please be polite when you call. Ask for his

> principled leadership on this issue. Let him know that autism insurance

> coverage means a great deal to your family and will also be the fiscally

> responsible thing to do for the State of Michigan.

> Senate Majority Leader D. Bishop (517) 373-2417

> If you happen to be sent to voice mail, please leave a message.

> 1. Ask at least ten of your friends to call Senator Bishop as well. Please

> note that they do not have to be personally affected by autism to make this

> call. We need to flood Senator Bishop’s phone with polite calls from

concerned

> citizens, asking for his principled leadership on autism insurance reform.

> There is strength in numbers. The more polite calls Senator Bishop receives

> from concerned citizens, the more likely it becomes he will move autism

> insurance reform legislation forward this session.

>

> Thank you in advance for your support.

> Sincerely,

> deebiga

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

More government is not the answer. Smaller smarter government can be helpful. I

would like to see more options like OH does with allowing (and expanding) the

autism scholarship. By dis-enrolling from the public schools (although you

aren't really b/c they still handle the IEP) you make take your 20K and apply it

in the way that is most beneficial for educating or training your child.

Personal freedoms to choose what is right for your child is moving the private

free market into providing some wonderful specified options out there. Many of

these new " schools " are emerging and evolving as the demands ebb and flow but I

found that having options outside of the public school system was very

empowering as a parent for finding what suits my child the best as the public

schools can be a sort of " one size fits all " program. The insurance companies

are a private market driven company. They are profit driven and that is not a

dirty word. By forcing a private company to do something that is not profitable

to them will only result in you getting less than what you need due to over

regulating and burdensome laws covering the mandate. Because ultimately, the

insurance company is trying to retain a profit to stay in business. Insurance is

a hedge that we pay into for the possibility of something happening. It is not a

blanket womb to tomb health care guarantee. People scream for more and more

government and then scream when the government becomes bloated and unresponsive.

We scream when the government tries to tell us to vaccinate then we scream for

the government to fix it all. If doctors had more liberty to treat individuals

in the way they do best we would have more options and ultimately it would drive

costs down. I am done delegating the government the nanny role of telling me

what foods to eat, light bulbs to use, cars to drive and vaccines to take.

[Guest guest]

I wish there was a " Like " button (like Facebook). I'm with you.

>

> More government is not the answer. Smaller smarter government can be helpful.

I would like to see more options like OH does with allowing (and expanding) the

autism scholarship. By dis-enrolling from the public schools (although you

aren't really b/c they still handle the IEP) you make take your 20K and apply it

in the way that is most beneficial for educating or training your child.

Personal freedoms to choose what is right for your child is moving the private

free market into providing some wonderful specified options out there. Many of

these new " schools " are emerging and evolving as the demands ebb and flow but I

found that having options outside of the public school system was very

empowering as a parent for finding what suits my child the best as the public

schools can be a sort of " one size fits all " program. The insurance companies

are a private market driven company. They are profit driven and that is not a

dirty word. By forcing a private company to do something that is not profitable

to them will only result in you getting less than what you need due to over

regulating and burdensome laws covering the mandate. Because ultimately, the

insurance company is trying to retain a profit to stay in business. Insurance is

a hedge that we pay into for the possibility of something happening. It is not a

blanket womb to tomb health care guarantee. People scream for more and more

government and then scream when the government becomes bloated and unresponsive.

We scream when the government tries to tell us to vaccinate then we scream for

the government to fix it all. If doctors had more liberty to treat individuals

in the way they do best we would have more options and ultimately it would drive

costs down. I am done delegating the government the nanny role of telling me

what foods to eat, light bulbs to use, cars to drive and vaccines to take.

>

[Guest guest]

Great! For taking charge of your self for your self (That being a cog in a wheel

would be a life, of autism? that that could help the autistic go beyond as much)

That might become the definition of " normal " as it should be? (where I feel MANY

*aren't* quite *so* far yet.. . (despite them calling themselves normal, that

one would want to be so normal if not sheep-like? (still?.. .)

I don't think you'll ever see *Sheep-like* as a diagnostic label in any

socialist (big-government) propaganda, (uuuuh, uuuuh m) sorry, literature... but

that's just my sense of it, of doing the math (analysis) so far? .. .

So far,

Mike

On The Communication Language, that Communication doesn't define as much if not

everything so meaningful? (That there would be any meaningful freedom of

expression, or Constitution, otherwise, *Really*) I suspect folks will get there

eventually, or not, that I should care, otherwise? .. .

I Feel *I'm* doing alright, and not so especially by supporting things the way

they are, (No) but for something greater, (and not a government, No!) I'd be

thinking, as Feeling for, Thereof, of Understanding More! but what else.. .

(Sheesh

I wish as much for Us! .. . You wouldn't get It otherwise is my sense of It of

this.. . *Really* (Support, really support, Freedom of Expression and not

censorship, why don't *we*?!.)+

Right. I wouldn't get It without your two-cents either.. .

Best wishes, Thereof

> >

> > More government is not the answer. Smaller smarter government can be

helpful. I would like to see more options like OH does with allowing (and

expanding) the autism scholarship. By dis-enrolling from the public schools

(although you aren't really b/c they still handle the IEP) you make take your

20K and apply it in the way that is most beneficial for educating or training

your child. Personal freedoms to choose what is right for your child is moving

the private free market into providing some wonderful specified options out

there. Many of these new " schools " are emerging and evolving as the demands ebb

and flow but I found that having options outside of the public school system was

very empowering as a parent for finding what suits my child the best as the

public schools can be a sort of " one size fits all " program. The insurance

companies are a private market driven company. They are profit driven and that

is not a dirty word. By forcing a private company to do something that is not

profitable to them will only result in you getting less than what you need due

to over regulating and burdensome laws covering the mandate. Because ultimately,

the insurance company is trying to retain a profit to stay in business.

Insurance is a hedge that we pay into for the possibility of something

happening. It is not a blanket womb to tomb health care guarantee. People scream

for more and more government and then scream when the government becomes bloated

and unresponsive. We scream when the government tries to tell us to vaccinate

then we scream for the government to fix it all. If doctors had more liberty to

treat individuals in the way they do best we would have more options and

ultimately it would drive costs down. I am done delegating the government the

nanny role of telling me what foods to eat, light bulbs to use, cars to drive

and vaccines to take.

> >

>