Re: I CAN'T GET RID OF THE YEAST!!!! What's the BEST, MOST EFFECTIVE protocol?????

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I don’t think the diflucan will be enough.. (I know my yeast habituated it

to quickly).. (in order) GSE, biotin, caprylic acid, pau d’arco, candex

might all be needed, you might need to rotate.. and use a LOT of probiotics.

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Subject: [ ] I CAN'T GET RID OF THE YEAST!!!! What's the BEST,

MOST EFFECTIVE protocol?????

Andy

7 years old

47 pounds

EXTREME YEAST (according to everything I have read from all of you about

symptoms on this forum) He was also tested about 2 years ago from Dr.

Bradstreet who said my son was higher in yeast than most of his 3000+

caseload. We haven't been able to see him or afford him in a long time, but

our local doctor is helping and willing to help. HOW SHOULD I PROCEED?

Currently he is on Diflucan once a day.

Obvious GF/CF/SF diet

Just started Cutler protocol last week with both ALA and DMSA. (Vit C, E,

BComplex, P5P, Milk Thistle, Chromium, Molybdenum, Magnesium, GABA, Taurine,

Zinc, L-Carnitine.

Now what? In order of importance?

We have tongue clicking, rolling of the tongue, sliming everything,

repetitive sounds, biting his arm, pacing incessantly, biting the tongue,

some insomnia (which melatonin has helped with), hilarity, slapping his

face, unwillingness to push out a bowel movement, screaming for no apparent

reason.....etc.....help?

I want to help him the most effective way possible! Any ideas? Thank you all

so much. Maybe someday he can be a testimony to others. Right now, we are

the needy ones!!

[Guest guest]

No sweets is the most effective protocol. We also use Candex, Candidaise, and

coconut oil. If there is yeast after the child eats, give activated charcoal.

If some foods or supplements seem to keep causing yeast, cut them out of his

diet.

You said you started with both DMSA and ALA. I would suggest using one or the

other and in very low doses. I am on 25mg DMSA and my kids are on 8 and 10mg

DMSA (ages 7 and 12). We did ALA for awhile last year and earlier this year and

it was real hard on my little guy. He was only on about 10mg ALA at the highest

and that was way too much.

>

> Andy

> 7 years old

> 47 pounds

> EXTREME YEAST (according to everything I have read from all of you about

symptoms on this forum) He was also tested about 2 years ago from Dr.

Bradstreet who said my son was higher in yeast than most of his 3000+ caseload.

We haven't been able to see him or afford him in a long time, but our local

doctor is helping and willing to help. HOW SHOULD I PROCEED?

>

> Currently he is on Diflucan once a day.

> Obvious GF/CF/SF diet

> Just started Cutler protocol last week with both ALA and DMSA. (Vit C, E,

BComplex, P5P, Milk Thistle, Chromium, Molybdenum, Magnesium, GABA, Taurine,

Zinc, L-Carnitine.

>

> Now what? In order of importance?

>

> We have tongue clicking, rolling of the tongue, sliming everything, repetitive

sounds, biting his arm, pacing incessantly, biting the tongue, some insomnia

(which melatonin has helped with), hilarity, slapping his face, unwillingness to

push out a bowel movement, screaming for no apparent reason.....etc.....help?

>

> I want to help him the most effective way possible! Any ideas? Thank you all

so much. Maybe someday he can be a testimony to others. Right now, we are the

needy ones!!

>

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oregano P73 1-2 drops twice a day

From: elizabethsoliday@...

Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 21:18:33 +0000

Subject: [ ] Re: I CAN'T GET RID OF THE YEAST!!!! What's the BEST,

MOST EFFECTIVE protocol?????

No sweets is the most effective protocol. We also use Candex, Candidaise, and

coconut oil. If there is yeast after the child eats, give activated charcoal. If

some foods or supplements seem to keep causing yeast, cut them out of his diet.

You said you started with both DMSA and ALA. I would suggest using one or the

other and in very low doses. I am on 25mg DMSA and my kids are on 8 and 10mg

DMSA (ages 7 and 12). We did ALA for awhile last year and earlier this year and

it was real hard on my little guy. He was only on about 10mg ALA at the highest

and that was way too much.

>

> Andy

> 7 years old

> 47 pounds

> EXTREME YEAST (according to everything I have read from all of you about

symptoms on this forum) He was also tested about 2 years ago from Dr. Bradstreet

who said my son was higher in yeast than most of his 3000+ caseload. We haven't

been able to see him or afford him in a long time, but our local doctor is

helping and willing to help. HOW SHOULD I PROCEED?

>

> Currently he is on Diflucan once a day.

> Obvious GF/CF/SF diet

> Just started Cutler protocol last week with both ALA and DMSA. (Vit C, E,

BComplex, P5P, Milk Thistle, Chromium, Molybdenum, Magnesium, GABA, Taurine,

Zinc, L-Carnitine.

>

> Now what? In order of importance?

>

> We have tongue clicking, rolling of the tongue, sliming everything, repetitive

sounds, biting his arm, pacing incessantly, biting the tongue, some insomnia

(which melatonin has helped with), hilarity, slapping his face, unwillingness to

push out a bowel movement, screaming for no apparent reason.....etc.....help?

>

> I want to help him the most effective way possible! Any ideas? Thank you all

so much. Maybe someday he can be a testimony to others. Right now, we are the

needy ones!!

>

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[Guest guest]

I second Liz's suggestion: No sweets. Also try to up the probiotics that you are

giving.

Please make sure you are not giving sweets in any shape. Sodas, Fruit juices and

even fruits can flare up yeast. Also, starchy vegetables like Potato, Sweet

Potato etc also not suggested to use. Another thing to avoid is Corn, a common

allergen that can cause yeast.

There are four groups of suppements you can try:

1) Enzymes: Candex or Candidaise

2) Specialty Probiotics: Threelac

3) Herbals: Garlic, Oregano Grape Extract, GSE, Biotin, Pau D'arco, Biocidin,

Cumanda

4) Homeopathic: Aqua Flora

Notes:

1) I tried Threelac, my daughter didn't tolerate it, so we are doing herbals.

But many parents told me it works very good.

2) I never tried Aqua Flora. Some parents reported a great success.

HTH,

Ragha

> >

> > Andy

> > 7 years old

> > 47 pounds

> > EXTREME YEAST (according to everything I have read from all of you about

symptoms on this forum) He was also tested about 2 years ago from Dr.

Bradstreet who said my son was higher in yeast than most of his 3000+ caseload.

We haven't been able to see him or afford him in a long time, but our local

doctor is helping and willing to help. HOW SHOULD I PROCEED?

> >

> > Currently he is on Diflucan once a day.

> > Obvious GF/CF/SF diet

> > Just started Cutler protocol last week with both ALA and DMSA. (Vit C, E,

BComplex, P5P, Milk Thistle, Chromium, Molybdenum, Magnesium, GABA, Taurine,

Zinc, L-Carnitine.

> >

> > Now what? In order of importance?

> >

> > We have tongue clicking, rolling of the tongue, sliming everything,

repetitive sounds, biting his arm, pacing incessantly, biting the tongue, some

insomnia (which melatonin has helped with), hilarity, slapping his face,

unwillingness to push out a bowel movement, screaming for no apparent

reason.....etc.....help?

> >

> > I want to help him the most effective way possible! Any ideas? Thank you

all so much. Maybe someday he can be a testimony to others. Right now, we are

the needy ones!!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Can you buy a good source of that that doesn't taste too much like coconut

(which my girls hate).

We do use Tropical Traditions expeller-pressed CO, which doesn't taste like

coconut.

Thanks,

> >

> > Andy

> > 7 years old

> > 47 pounds

> > EXTREME YEAST (according to everything I have read from all of you about

symptoms on this forum) He was also tested about 2 years ago from Dr.

Bradstreet who said my son was higher in yeast than most of his 3000+ caseload.

We haven't been able to see him or afford him in a long time, but our local

doctor is helping and willing to help. HOW SHOULD I PROCEED?

> >

> > Currently he is on Diflucan once a day.

> > Obvious GF/CF/SF diet

> > Just started Cutler protocol last week with both ALA and DMSA. (Vit C, E,

BComplex, P5P, Milk Thistle, Chromium, Molybdenum, Magnesium, GABA, Taurine,

Zinc, L-Carnitine.

> >

> > Now what? In order of importance?

> >

> > We have tongue clicking, rolling of the tongue, sliming everything,

repetitive sounds, biting his arm, pacing incessantly, biting the tongue, some

insomnia (which melatonin has helped with), hilarity, slapping his face,

unwillingness to push out a bowel movement, screaming for no apparent

reason.....etc.....help?

> >

> > I want to help him the most effective way possible! Any ideas? Thank you

all so much. Maybe someday he can be a testimony to others. Right now, we are

the needy ones!!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

How do you dose this? Do you cook with it or give as a supplement?

> > >

> > > Andy

> > > 7 years old

> > > 47 pounds

> > > EXTREME YEAST (according to everything I have read from all of you about

symptoms on this forum) He was also tested about 2 years ago from Dr.

Bradstreet who said my son was higher in yeast than most of his 3000+ caseload.

We haven't been able to see him or afford him in a long time, but our local

doctor is helping and willing to help. HOW SHOULD I PROCEED?

> > >

> > > Currently he is on Diflucan once a day.

> > > Obvious GF/CF/SF diet

> > > Just started Cutler protocol last week with both ALA and DMSA. (Vit C, E,

BComplex, P5P, Milk Thistle, Chromium, Molybdenum, Magnesium, GABA, Taurine,

Zinc, L-Carnitine.

> > >

> > > Now what? In order of importance?

> > >

> > > We have tongue clicking, rolling of the tongue, sliming everything,

repetitive sounds, biting his arm, pacing incessantly, biting the tongue, some

insomnia (which melatonin has helped with), hilarity, slapping his face,

unwillingness to push out a bowel movement, screaming for no apparent

reason.....etc.....help?

> > >

> > > I want to help him the most effective way possible! Any ideas? Thank you

all so much. Maybe someday he can be a testimony to others. Right now, we are

the needy ones!!

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Andy

> 7 years old

> 47 pounds

> EXTREME YEAST (according to everything I have read from all of you about

symptoms on this forum) He was also tested about 2 years ago from Dr.

Bradstreet who said my son was higher in yeast than most of his 3000+ caseload.

We haven't been able to see him or afford him in a long time, but our local

doctor is helping and willing to help. HOW SHOULD I PROCEED?

>

> Currently he is on Diflucan once a day.

> Obvious GF/CF/SF diet

> Just started Cutler protocol last week with both ALA and DMSA. (Vit C, E,

BComplex, P5P, Milk Thistle, Chromium, Molybdenum, Magnesium, GABA, Taurine,

Zinc, L-Carnitine.

>

> Now what? In order of importance?

>

>

*** The ONLY thing that has helped my son is Klaire Labs, InterFase, just the

regular one, not the one with EDTA in it. This has helped my son so much, I

can't even begin to tell you!

Sherry

[Guest guest]

If you ferment the coconut water long enough-it becomes so tart that there is no

taste of coconut at all. Thats also an indication that the probiotics have

completely taken over....

> > >

> > > Andy

> > > 7 years old

> > > 47 pounds

> > > EXTREME YEAST (according to everything I have read from all of you about

symptoms on this forum) He was also tested about 2 years ago from Dr.

Bradstreet who said my son was higher in yeast than most of his 3000+ caseload.

We haven't been able to see him or afford him in a long time, but our local

doctor is helping and willing to help. HOW SHOULD I PROCEED?

> > >

> > > Currently he is on Diflucan once a day.

> > > Obvious GF/CF/SF diet

> > > Just started Cutler protocol last week with both ALA and DMSA. (Vit C, E,

BComplex, P5P, Milk Thistle, Chromium, Molybdenum, Magnesium, GABA, Taurine,

Zinc, L-Carnitine.

> > >

> > > Now what? In order of importance?

> > >

> > > We have tongue clicking, rolling of the tongue, sliming everything,

repetitive sounds, biting his arm, pacing incessantly, biting the tongue, some

insomnia (which melatonin has helped with), hilarity, slapping his face,

unwillingness to push out a bowel movement, screaming for no apparent

reason.....etc.....help?

> > >

> > > I want to help him the most effective way possible! Any ideas? Thank you

all so much. Maybe someday he can be a testimony to others. Right now, we are

the needy ones!!

> > >

> >

>