DMSA / ALA Ratio? What is best 2:1 or 1:2

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I was reading one of the documents in the file about ratio of DMSA to ALA.  The

document said, : " A 1:1 ratio seems to work fine. A ratio between 1:2 and 2:1 is

best "

Can anyone give their experiences with either 1:1, 2:1 or 1:2 ratio of

DMSA/ALA.....we are starting today after school.  OR should I only start with

DMSA to begin for a few rounds?

Much Thanks for any help you could provide

ANdrea

From: mosaictm <lisa369@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Re Statistics on chelation

Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 9:47 AM

 

1. 1.5 years

2. Andy Cutler protocol. We never messed with challenge tests and such, and

fired both DAN doctors who suggested them. We see a holistic MD/homeopath now

once in awhile, for anything we may need. She is a partner helping us.

3. ALA

4.7.5 years old

5. Initial ATEC: 65

Current ATEC: 11

6. " Asperger Syndrome - severe, presenting as regressive autism (late - post age

3), child has normal to above average intelligence, and maintains minor verbal

ability (one to two words). "

From the dx form faxed from his diagnosing doctor to our family doctor.

AC chelation is the best way to go.

Autism really has no effect on our lives anymore.

> >

> > We just started weekly IV treatments for our 6 year old son. He has had 3

chelation treatments so far....

>

> Stop them now.

>

> >I am wondering if this treatment would cause yeast initially?

>

> And later. And forever. It can cause lots of horrid long lasting problems. For

typical results, see www.dmpsbackfire.com.

>

> >Our son is usually a great sleeper - always has been... 7pm to 6am.... but

over the past 3 weeks he has been waking up for several hours almost every

night. It seems that he has some yeast issues, since he has been very giggly- -

and even though i can tell he tries to keep it in - he bursts out with giggles

--and usually has gas along with it (from both ends)....

> >

> > I don't know anyone else who is doing IV chelation

>

> Probably because a lot of people have learned not to let doctors hurt their

kids for money.

>

> First a doctor charged you money to make him autistic with vaccines.

>

> Now a different doctor is charging you money to make him worse with iv

chelation.

>

> >and could really use some advice. I am hopeful that the change in behavior is

a sign that the chelation treatments are working

>

> They're a sign you are hurting your kid. Stop before it is permanent.

>

> >and stirring things up and pulling the bad stuff out of his body -

> >

> > but I guess I need a little reassurance that we made the right decision to

chelate.

>

> Chelation is the right decision.

>

> How you are doing it is the wrong decision.

>

> > I know we have a long road ahead of us

>

> It's going to get a lot longer and more difficult if you don't stop the IV

chelation and start doing it right ASAP!

>

> > and it's early right now... but we are going to do whatever we have to do to

recover our son...

>

> Then start the every 3-4 hour ALA chelation protocol other people here are

using.

>

> >He has made tremendous improvements over the past 3 years (with help from DAN

physician, supplements, school, etc.)...but we want him back in our world and

will keep fighting until we get him.

>

> Well, you have to avoid doing dramatic things like iv chelation that might

make it impossible for you to do that.

>

> > Thanks for any advice...

> > appreciate it.

> > Jo-Ann

> >

> Andy

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

> Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

> Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

> Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

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[Guest guest]

I think most give the same dose of DMSA and ALA, and when given together are

given every three hours.

That's what we do. Congrats on starting your journey.

TJ

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From: Wrenn <ajwrenn@...>

Sent: Fri, October 15, 2010 6:08:44 AM

Subject: [ ] DMSA / ALA Ratio? What is best 2:1 or 1:2

 

Hello,

I was reading one of the documents in the file about ratio of DMSA to ALA.  The

document said, : " A 1:1 ratio seems to work fine. A ratio between 1:2 and 2:1 is

best "

Can anyone give their experiences with either 1:1, 2:1 or 1:2 ratio of

DMSA/ALA.....we are starting today after school.  OR should I only start with

DMSA to begin for a few rounds?

Much Thanks for any help you could provide

ANdrea

From: mosaictm <lisa369@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Re Statistics on chelation

Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 9:47 AM

 

1. 1.5 years

2. Andy Cutler protocol. We never messed with challenge tests and such, and

fired both DAN doctors who suggested them. We see a holistic MD/homeopath now

once in awhile, for anything we may need. She is a partner helping us.

3. ALA

4.7.5 years old

5. Initial ATEC: 65

Current ATEC: 11

6. " Asperger Syndrome - severe, presenting as regressive autism (late - post age

3), child has normal to above average intelligence, and maintains minor verbal

ability (one to two words). "

From the dx form faxed from his diagnosing doctor to our family doctor.

AC chelation is the best way to go.

Autism really has no effect on our lives anymore.

> >

> > We just started weekly IV treatments for our 6 year old son. He has had 3

>chelation treatments so far....

>

>

> Stop them now.

>

> >I am wondering if this treatment would cause yeast initially?

>

> And later. And forever. It can cause lots of horrid long lasting problems. For

>typical results, see www.dmpsbackfire.com.

>

> >Our son is usually a great sleeper - always has been... 7pm to 6am.... but

>over the past 3 weeks he has been waking up for several hours almost every

>night. It seems that he has some yeast issues, since he has been very giggly- -

>and even though i can tell he tries to keep it in - he bursts out with giggles

>--and usually has gas along with it (from both ends)....

> >

> > I don't know anyone else who is doing IV chelation

>

> Probably because a lot of people have learned not to let doctors hurt their

>kids for money.

>

> First a doctor charged you money to make him autistic with vaccines.

>

> Now a different doctor is charging you money to make him worse with iv

>chelation.

>

> >and could really use some advice. I am hopeful that the change in behavior is

>a sign that the chelation treatments are working

>

>

> They're a sign you are hurting your kid. Stop before it is permanent.

>

> >and stirring things up and pulling the bad stuff out of his body -

> >

> > but I guess I need a little reassurance that we made the right decision to

>chelate.

>

>

> Chelation is the right decision.

>

> How you are doing it is the wrong decision.

>

> > I know we have a long road ahead of us

>

> It's going to get a lot longer and more difficult if you don't stop the IV

>chelation and start doing it right ASAP!

>

> > and it's early right now... but we are going to do whatever we have to do to

>recover our son...

>

>

> Then start the every 3-4 hour ALA chelation protocol other people here are

>using.

>

> >He has made tremendous improvements over the past 3 years (with help from DAN

>physician, supplements, school, etc.)...but we want him back in our world and

>will keep fighting until we get him.

>

> Well, you have to avoid doing dramatic things like iv chelation that might

make

>it impossible for you to do that.

>

> > Thanks for any advice...

> > appreciate it.

> > Jo-Ann

> >

> Andy

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

> Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

> Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

> Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Hoping someone else has a better answer for you but I just wanted to write

because we are also starting today after school. My plan was to start with DMSA

for a few rounds before adding. Dont want to hit him up all at once.

Much luck to you!!!

Liz

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> > > We just started weekly IV treatments for our 6 year old son. He has had 3

chelation treatments so far....

>

> >

>

> > Stop them now.

>

> >

>

> > >I am wondering if this treatment would cause yeast initially?

>

> >

>

> > And later. And forever. It can cause lots of horrid long lasting problems.

For typical results, see www.dmpsbackfire.com.

>

> >

>

> > >Our son is usually a great sleeper - always has been... 7pm to 6am.... but

over the past 3 weeks he has been waking up for several hours almost every

night. It seems that he has some yeast issues, since he has been very giggly- -

and even though i can tell he tries to keep it in - he bursts out with giggles

--and usually has gas along with it (from both ends)....

>

> > >

>

> > > I don't know anyone else who is doing IV chelation

>

> >

>

> > Probably because a lot of people have learned not to let doctors hurt their

kids for money.

>

> >

>

> > First a doctor charged you money to make him autistic with vaccines.

>

> >

>

> > Now a different doctor is charging you money to make him worse with iv

chelation.

>

> >

>

> > >and could really use some advice. I am hopeful that the change in behavior

is a sign that the chelation treatments are working

>

> >

>

> > They're a sign you are hurting your kid. Stop before it is permanent.

>

> >

>

> > >and stirring things up and pulling the bad stuff out of his body -

>

> > >

>

> > > but I guess I need a little reassurance that we made the right decision to

chelate.

>

> >

>

> > Chelation is the right decision.

>

> >

>

> > How you are doing it is the wrong decision.

>

> >

>

> > > I know we have a long road ahead of us

>

> >

>

> > It's going to get a lot longer and more difficult if you don't stop the IV

chelation and start doing it right ASAP!

>

> >

>

> > > and it's early right now... but we are going to do whatever we have to do

to recover our son...

>

> >

>

> > Then start the every 3-4 hour ALA chelation protocol other people here are

using.

>

> >

>

> > >He has made tremendous improvements over the past 3 years (with help from

DAN physician, supplements, school, etc.)...but we want him back in our world

and will keep fighting until we get him.

>

> >

>

> > Well, you have to avoid doing dramatic things like iv chelation that might

make it impossible for you to do that.

>

> >

>

> > > Thanks for any advice...

>

> > > appreciate it.

>

> > > Jo-Ann

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> > Andy

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> > http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

>

> > Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

>

> >

>

> > http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

>

> > Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

>

> >

>

> > http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

>

> > Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children

>

> >

>

> > http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

>

> > Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

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[Guest guest]

Liz,

What dose are you going to give....   My son weighs 65 lbs, so I was thinking

of doing 12.5 ALA and the same for DMSA but then bumping up the DMSA to 2:1

given Andy's comment about 2:1 or 1:2 being best.....

I am starting with my son today....should be interesting.

From: lizcurran70 <lizcurran70@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: DMSA / ALA Ratio? What is best 2:1 or 1:2

Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 1:20 PM

 

Hi ,

Hoping someone else has a better answer for you but I just wanted to write

because we are also starting today after school. My plan was to start with DMSA

for a few rounds before adding. Dont want to hit him up all at once.

Much luck to you!!!

Liz

>

> > >

>

> > > We just started weekly IV treatments for our 6 year old son. He has had 3

chelation treatments so far....

>

> >

>

> > Stop them now.

>

> >

>

> > >I am wondering if this treatment would cause yeast initially?

>

> >

>

> > And later. And forever. It can cause lots of horrid long lasting problems.

For typical results, see www.dmpsbackfire.com.

>

> >

>

> > >Our son is usually a great sleeper - always has been... 7pm to 6am.... but

over the past 3 weeks he has been waking up for several hours almost every

night. It seems that he has some yeast issues, since he has been very giggly- -

and even though i can tell he tries to keep it in - he bursts out with giggles

--and usually has gas along with it (from both ends)....

>

> > >

>

> > > I don't know anyone else who is doing IV chelation

>

> >

>

> > Probably because a lot of people have learned not to let doctors hurt their

kids for money.

>

> >

>

> > First a doctor charged you money to make him autistic with vaccines.

>

> >

>

> > Now a different doctor is charging you money to make him worse with iv

chelation.

>

> >

>

> > >and could really use some advice. I am hopeful that the change in behavior

is a sign that the chelation treatments are working

>

> >

>

> > They're a sign you are hurting your kid. Stop before it is permanent.

>

> >

>

> > >and stirring things up and pulling the bad stuff out of his body -

>

> > >

>

> > > but I guess I need a little reassurance that we made the right decision to

chelate.

>

> >

>

> > Chelation is the right decision.

>

> >

>

> > How you are doing it is the wrong decision.

>

> >

>

> > > I know we have a long road ahead of us

>

> >

>

> > It's going to get a lot longer and more difficult if you don't stop the IV

chelation and start doing it right ASAP!

>

> >

>

> > > and it's early right now... but we are going to do whatever we have to do

to recover our son...

>

> >

>

> > Then start the every 3-4 hour ALA chelation protocol other people here are

using.

>

> >

>

> > >He has made tremendous improvements over the past 3 years (with help from

DAN physician, supplements, school, etc.)...but we want him back in our world

and will keep fighting until we get him.

>

> >

>

> > Well, you have to avoid doing dramatic things like iv chelation that might

make it impossible for you to do that.

>

> >

>

> > > Thanks for any advice...

>

> > > appreciate it.

>

> > > Jo-Ann

>

> > >

>

> > Andy

>

> >

>

> > http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

>

> > Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

>

> >

>

> > http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

>

> > Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

>

> >

>

> > http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

>

> > Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children

>

> >

>

> > http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

>

> > Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

>

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[Guest guest]

One of my boys is also 65 lbs. and he's done nearly 30 rounds. We got to 16mg

ALA/10mg DMPS (rx) no problem, but 16mg ALA/25mg DMSA was not good. He has

yeast and underlying infections which become more of a problem because a lot of

DMSA lowers neutrophils. I am chelating three kids and in our family we use

more ALA and less DMSA. Andy has said that 5mg DMSA will still pull some lead,

so I will use 16mg ALA/5mg DMSA next time. But there are others who are fine

with 2:1.

Sorry if this is confusing! Having said all that, 12.5mg ALA might be a little

high for the first round. You might want to do 10mg.

Cheers,

Jo

>

> >

>

> > Hello,

>

> >

>

> > I was reading one of the documents in the file about ratio of DMSA to

ALA.  The document said, : " A 1:1 ratio seems to work fine. A ratio between

1:2 and 2:1 is best "

>

> >

>

> > Can anyone give their experiences with either 1:1, 2:1 or 1:2 ratio of

DMSA/ALA.....we are starting today after school.  OR should I only start with

DMSA to begin for a few rounds?

>

> >

>

> > Much Thanks for any help you could provide

>

> > ANdrea

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My son is 52lbs so we started with 8.5 of the DMSA. I was thinking of doing 1:1

but now you have me wondering about that. I had to give me son 2 shots for

school last week so Im pretty sure I made the right decision on holding off on

the ALA for now. Been doing it 17 hrs so far. If you want to write me off list

you can. Us newbies can give eachother moral support. ;o)

Liz

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