Guest guest Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 hi just reading through, it says the starting dose od dmsa alone is 1mg per pound, with ala, it drops to 1/4 to 1/8. but lots of people are saying that even if you are using dmsa alone, you should still start at 1/4 to 1/8, which is right?? want to get this up and running tomorrow. so at 100lbs ds1 sud start at 12.5 not the 25 I initially thought and his brother who is 50lb should start at half that aaggh I'm confused!!! any clarification please are the faq right and say go for the 1mg per pound dose, or what thank you for any clarification emma > > hi all, im here again, still havent started chelating, still really scared tbh as we will be doing this without the doc, i think we are going to start, really start this time, i have been doing a lot of research into kais hand tremors and this seems to correlate with lead poisening, so we feel we are definately going to run with dmsa alone for a few months and then add in ala when we are more confident. > > questions: > > in the faq: it says if you give dmsa alone the average dose is a gram per pound, now that scares me, he's 100lbs. so can I start him with 25mg per dose? do that for 4 weeks, then increase to 37mg per dose for 4 weeks, then up to 50mg, (not comfortable with the max dose of 100mg). personally, i'm going to go with an amount that doesnt set off his yeast, so if 75mg is too much, then i'd stay at 50mg if you know what I mean, i'd rather chelate him for longer with fewer side effects tbh. > > how long do you chelate for with dmsa on average before adding in ala? > > if it is causing stress to his liver and kidneys how will i know? what 'worrying' signs should we look out for? > > i'm just reading so much good stuff, i really want to start it, whats mainly taken us long to start is my suffering with lack of sleep, i have a 7 yr old with adhd/asd who doesnt sleep and a 3 yr old who has been ill with ear infections pretty much 2 weeks out of every 6 for 3 years plus she has night terrors too pretty much every night, so my sleep is very disrupted anyway, and we are just worrying that its going to prove to much for me. > > I am also going to start the 7 year old on the dmsa and guess he should start at 12.5mg? > > ah well we'll keep you posted > > kind regards emma > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Hi Emma Starting at 12.5 mg DMSA (1/8th of 100lb body weight) should be OK. The link below might be helpful. http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/Andy_dose_sched.html#dosage Kenny > > > > hi all, im here again, still havent started chelating, still really scared tbh as we will be doing this without the doc, i think we are going to start, really start this time, i have been doing a lot of research into kais hand tremors and this seems to correlate with lead poisening, so we feel we are definately going to run with dmsa alone for a few months and then add in ala when we are more confident. > > > > questions: > > > > in the faq: it says if you give dmsa alone the average dose is a gram per pound, now that scares me, he's 100lbs. so can I start him with 25mg per dose? do that for 4 weeks, then increase to 37mg per dose for 4 weeks, then up to 50mg, (not comfortable with the max dose of 100mg). personally, i'm going to go with an amount that doesnt set off his yeast, so if 75mg is too much, then i'd stay at 50mg if you know what I mean, i'd rather chelate him for longer with fewer side effects tbh. > > > > how long do you chelate for with dmsa on average before adding in ala? > > > > if it is causing stress to his liver and kidneys how will i know? what 'worrying' signs should we look out for? > > > > i'm just reading so much good stuff, i really want to start it, whats mainly taken us long to start is my suffering with lack of sleep, i have a 7 yr old with adhd/asd who doesnt sleep and a 3 yr old who has been ill with ear infections pretty much 2 weeks out of every 6 for 3 years plus she has night terrors too pretty much every night, so my sleep is very disrupted anyway, and we are just worrying that its going to prove to much for me. > > > > I am also going to start the 7 year old on the dmsa and guess he should start at 12.5mg? > > > > ah well we'll keep you posted > > > > kind regards emma > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Why are you doing a challenge test? 350mg is way too much DMSA, even 25mg would be too much. Are you sure she isnt dosing 25mg/kg? From: pominvillek Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 12:25 PM Subject: [ ] DMSA dosage When I picked up my DMSA from my pharm it stated that the dose was 350mg. This is for a two year old. I never gave my son the dose and called my doctor right away. She explained to me the dose was 350mg per kg. She said the actual dose my son would be getting was 25mg. This was in order to do a challenge test with. However, when I called the pharm they too said the script read 350mg so that is what they gave us. I don't need to tell you what that would do to such a little guy. Does this make sense to anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Don't give that to your kid and stop seeing that doctor. Unless it was being given transdermal(which would still be WAY too much). > > When I picked up my DMSA from my pharm it stated that the dose was 350mg. This is for a two year old. I never gave my son the dose and called my doctor right away. She explained to me the dose was 350mg per kg. She said the actual dose my son would be getting was 25mg. This was in order to do a challenge test with. However, when I called the pharm they too said the script read 350mg so that is what they gave us. I don't need to tell you what that would do to such a little guy. Does this make sense to anyone? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 I was just wondering if anyone is/has dosed oral DMSA twice a day rather than every 3 hours. I've have read many other dosing schedules and wondered if anyone is dosing differently and have they had any problems not dosing the recommended every 3 hours schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Sure if you want serious potential for metal redistribution. The dosing is every 3 hours because of the half life of the chelating agent. Why would you want to use a different dosing schedule, ac protocol works, is the most safe and gentle. > > I was just wondering if anyone is/has dosed oral DMSA twice a day rather than every 3 hours. I've have read many other dosing schedules and wondered if anyone is dosing differently and have they had any problems not dosing the recommended every 3 hours schedule. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Yes, we have tried dosing several times a day rather than every 3 hours. It created a lot of new problems including acid reflux, IBS, rage, aggression. It was the worst thing we have ever done. DON'T DO IT. I bought a $4 timer and every other weekend I re-set it every 3 hours, around the clock. At bedtime I put it on the little table that is a few feet away from my bed, along with a glass of water, a bottle of water for refilling the glass, and the bottle of pills. When the timer goes off I just re-set it for 3 hours, go give him the pill and tell him to swallow it and go back to sleep. He does, and I go back to bed. It takes about 1 minute and it's a lot easier than I thought it would be. It's a lot easier than dealing with all the problems created by dosing several times per day. > > I was just wondering if anyone is/has dosed oral DMSA twice a day rather than every 3 hours. I've have read many other dosing schedules and wondered if anyone is dosing differently and have they had any problems not dosing the recommended every 3 hours schedule. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 DMSA is every 4 hours, day and night. TJ ________________________________ From: ideals04 <ideals04@...> Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 8:13:19 PM Subject: [ ] Re: DMSA dosage  Sure if you want serious potential for metal redistribution. The dosing is every 3 hours because of the half life of the chelating agent. Why would you want to use a different dosing schedule, ac protocol works, is the most safe and gentle. > > I was just wondering if anyone is/has dosed oral DMSA twice a day rather than >every 3 hours. I've have read many other dosing schedules and wondered if anyone >is dosing differently and have they had any problems not dosing the recommended >every 3 hours schedule. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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