Re: trial of chelator only to determine metal toxicity?

[Guest guest]

How much does your 16 year old weigh?

I wouldn't say someone was a non-responder until they did 10 rounds at least of

ALA.

DMSA will clear some metals out of the body if given by itself. It does not

cross the blood-brain-barrier.

Removing metals from the body will give some physical relief, maybe not so

noticeable.

TJ

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From: ttaylor <ttaylor15@...>

Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 9:20:58 PM

Subject: [ ] trial of chelator only to determine metal toxicity?

 

Ok, lets say a person doesn't want to get a hair test (limited funds for

example) they just want to do a trial of chelation. I have read that you

should see some response within 10 rounds. but we advise people to begin at

a low dose and work up. My 16 year old for example (we have a hair test but

lets say we didn't) is chelating with DMSA only as he has just had amalgams

removed. We have only done 3 rounds we gave him 12.5 mgs he has felt

nothing good or bad. If we do this for 5 rounds then increase to 16mgs for

another 5, etc.... (of course then we will add ALA). But I am thinking

about others people who may be doing only a trial (most probably with ALA

not DMSA), how do you decide you are a non responder vs. not being on high

enough a dose to get a response yet?

Tressie

[Guest guest]

I agree TJ and we have a hair test on my 16 year old but I have a friend who is

interested in chelation. It will take her awhile to gather the extra funds for

the hair test(then to gather the funds for chelation supps will take a couple

more months). She has several people in the house that may need chelation but

none of them have any Amalgams or recent vaxes. I'm figuring for less than $10

she can buy a bottle of ALA and do some rounds (hey even if there are no metals

it's a great antioxident right). If she starts low at 12.5mgs and does 5 rounds

with nothing then moves up to 16mgs or 20mgs for another 5 rounds and sees

nothing good or bad is that enough to rule out metal toxicity or should she be

prepared to go higher. It does describe an ALA theraputic trial in AI, but I

know some of that info is outdated. Should those higher doseages (25-50mgs ALA)

be used for this purpose with the knowledge that the round can be cut short if

extreme symptoms appear?

Tressie

>

> How much does your 16 year old weigh?

> I wouldn't say someone was a non-responder until they did 10 rounds at least

of ALA.

> DMSA will clear some metals out of the body if given by itself. It does not

cross the blood-brain-barrier.

> Removing metals from the body will give some physical relief, maybe not so

noticeable.

> TJ

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: ttaylor <ttaylor15@...>

>

> Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 9:20:58 PM

> Subject: [ ] trial of chelator only to determine metal toxicity?

>

>  

> Ok, lets say a person doesn't want to get a hair test (limited funds for

> example) they just want to do a trial of chelation. I have read that you

> should see some response within 10 rounds. but we advise people to begin at

> a low dose and work up. My 16 year old for example (we have a hair test but

> lets say we didn't) is chelating with DMSA only as he has just had amalgams

> removed. We have only done 3 rounds we gave him 12.5 mgs he has felt

> nothing good or bad. If we do this for 5 rounds then increase to 16mgs for

> another 5, etc.... (of course then we will add ALA). But I am thinking

> about others people who may be doing only a trial (most probably with ALA

> not DMSA), how do you decide you are a non responder vs. not being on high

> enough a dose to get a response yet?

>

> Tressie

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'd go by what it says in AI, or the Hair Test book. Older kids take longer to

respond.

You could start with max dose, 1/2 mg per pound If there is a strong reaction

like yeast, then you know there is a toxicity issue.

TJ

________________________________

From: ttaylor <ttaylor15@...>

Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 10:19:11 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: trial of chelator only to determine metal

toxicity?

 

I agree TJ and we have a hair test on my 16 year old but I have a friend who is

interested in chelation. It will take her awhile to gather the extra funds for

the hair test(then to gather the funds for chelation supps will take a couple

more months). She has several people in the house that may need chelation but

none of them have any Amalgams or recent vaxes. I'm figuring for less than $10

she can buy a bottle of ALA and do some rounds (hey even if there are no metals

it's a great antioxident right). If she starts low at 12.5mgs and does 5 rounds

with nothing then moves up to 16mgs or 20mgs for another 5 rounds and sees

nothing good or bad is that enough to rule out metal toxicity or should she be

prepared to go higher. It does describe an ALA theraputic trial in AI, but I

know some of that info is outdated. Should those higher doseages (25-50mgs ALA)

be used for this purpose with the knowledge that the round can be cut short if

extreme symptoms appear?

Tressie

>

> How much does your 16 year old weigh?

> I wouldn't say someone was a non-responder until they did 10 rounds at least

of ALA.

> DMSA will clear some metals out of the body if given by itself. It does not

cross the blood-brain- barrier.

> Removing metals from the body will give some physical relief, maybe not so

noticeable.

> TJ

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: ttaylor <ttaylor15@. ..>

>

> Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 9:20:58 PM

> Subject: [ ] trial of chelator only to determine metal toxicity?

>

>  

> Ok, lets say a person doesn't want to get a hair test (limited funds for

> example) they just want to do a trial of chelation. I have read that you

> should see some response within 10 rounds. but we advise people to begin at

> a low dose and work up. My 16 year old for example (we have a hair test but

> lets say we didn't) is chelating with DMSA only as he has just had amalgams

> removed. We have only done 3 rounds we gave him 12.5 mgs he has felt

> nothing good or bad. If we do this for 5 rounds then increase to 16mgs for

> another 5, etc.... (of course then we will add ALA). But I am thinking

> about others people who may be doing only a trial (most probably with ALA

> not DMSA), how do you decide you are a non responder vs. not being on high

> enough a dose to get a response yet?

>

> Tressie

>

>

[Guest guest]

What is AI?

From: TJ Werth <tj_werth@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: trial of chelator only to determine metal

toxicity?

Date: Saturday, March 20, 2010, 6:32 PM

 

I'd go by what it says in AI, or the Hair Test book. Older kids take longer to

respond.

You could start with max dose, 1/2 mg per pound If there is a strong reaction

like yeast, then you know there is a toxicity issue.

TJ

____________ _________ _________ __

From: ttaylor <ttaylor15gmail (DOT) com>

Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 10:19:11 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: trial of chelator only to determine metal

toxicity?

 

I agree TJ and we have a hair test on my 16 year old but I have a friend who is

interested in chelation. It will take her awhile to gather the extra funds for

the hair test(then to gather the funds for chelation supps will take a couple

more months). She has several people in the house that may need chelation but

none of them have any Amalgams or recent vaxes. I'm figuring for less than $10

she can buy a bottle of ALA and do some rounds (hey even if there are no metals

it's a great antioxident right). If she starts low at 12.5mgs and does 5 rounds

with nothing then moves up to 16mgs or 20mgs for another 5 rounds and sees

nothing good or bad is that enough to rule out metal toxicity or should she be

prepared to go higher. It does describe an ALA theraputic trial in AI, but I

know some of that info is outdated. Should those higher doseages (25-50mgs ALA)

be used for this purpose with the knowledge that the round can be cut short if

extreme symptoms appear?

Tressie

>

> How much does your 16 year old weigh?

> I wouldn't say someone was a non-responder until they did 10 rounds at least

of ALA.

> DMSA will clear some metals out of the body if given by itself. It does not

cross the blood-brain- barrier.

> Removing metals from the body will give some physical relief, maybe not so

noticeable.

> TJ

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: ttaylor <ttaylor15@. ..>

>

> Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 9:20:58 PM

> Subject: [ ] trial of chelator only to determine metal toxicity?

>

>  

> Ok, lets say a person doesn't want to get a hair test (limited funds for

> example) they just want to do a trial of chelation. I have read that you

> should see some response within 10 rounds. but we advise people to begin at

> a low dose and work up. My 16 year old for example (we have a hair test but

> lets say we didn't) is chelating with DMSA only as he has just had amalgams

> removed. We have only done 3 rounds we gave him 12.5 mgs he has felt

> nothing good or bad. If we do this for 5 rounds then increase to 16mgs for

> another 5, etc.... (of course then we will add ALA). But I am thinking

> about others people who may be doing only a trial (most probably with ALA

> not DMSA), how do you decide you are a non responder vs. not being on high

> enough a dose to get a response yet?

>

> Tressie

>

>

[Guest guest]

The book " Amalgam Illness " by Andy Cutler. Sorry for the abbreviation.

TJ

________________________________

From: drissia wright <ritzywright@...>

Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 4:52:37 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: trial of chelator only to determine metal

toxicity?

 

What is AI?

From: TJ Werth <tj_werth (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: trial of chelator only to determine metal

toxicity?

Date: Saturday, March 20, 2010, 6:32 PM

 

I'd go by what it says in AI, or the Hair Test book. Older kids take longer to

respond.

You could start with max dose, 1/2 mg per pound If there is a strong reaction

like yeast, then you know there is a toxicity issue.

TJ

____________ _________ _________ __

From: ttaylor <ttaylor15gmail (DOT) com>

Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 10:19:11 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: trial of chelator only to determine metal

toxicity?

 

I agree TJ and we have a hair test on my 16 year old but I have a friend who is

interested in chelation. It will take her awhile to gather the extra funds for

the hair test(then to gather the funds for chelation supps will take a couple

more months). She has several people in the house that may need chelation but

none of them have any Amalgams or recent vaxes. I'm figuring for less than $10

she can buy a bottle of ALA and do some rounds (hey even if there are no metals

it's a great antioxident right). If she starts low at 12.5mgs and does 5 rounds

with nothing then moves up to 16mgs or 20mgs for another 5 rounds and sees

nothing good or bad is that enough to rule out metal toxicity or should she be

prepared to go higher. It does describe an ALA theraputic trial in AI, but I

know some of that info is outdated. Should those higher doseages (25-50mgs ALA)

be used for this purpose with the knowledge that the round can be cut short if

extreme symptoms appear?

Tressie

>

> How much does your 16 year old weigh?

> I wouldn't say someone was a non-responder until they did 10 rounds at least

of ALA.

> DMSA will clear some metals out of the body if given by itself. It does not

cross the blood-brain- barrier.

> Removing metals from the body will give some physical relief, maybe not so

noticeable.

> TJ

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: ttaylor <ttaylor15@. ..>

>

> Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 9:20:58 PM

> Subject: [ ] trial of chelator only to determine metal toxicity?

>

>  

> Ok, lets say a person doesn't want to get a hair test (limited funds for

> example) they just want to do a trial of chelation. I have read that you

> should see some response within 10 rounds. but we advise people to begin at

> a low dose and work up. My 16 year old for example (we have a hair test but

> lets say we didn't) is chelating with DMSA only as he has just had amalgams

> removed. We have only done 3 rounds we gave him 12.5 mgs he has felt

> nothing good or bad. If we do this for 5 rounds then increase to 16mgs for

> another 5, etc.... (of course then we will add ALA). But I am thinking

> about others people who may be doing only a trial (most probably with ALA

> not DMSA), how do you decide you are a non responder vs. not being on high

> enough a dose to get a response yet?

>

> Tressie

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was discussing something similar with a biochemist that specializes in toxin

removal and their suggestion was to go to a gluten-free, vegan diet. Given one

month, if lives did not drastically change, then continue toward alternatives.

Their opinion was that if you changed to diet and allowed the immune system to

heal, the body would be able to begin handling some of the overload and that

chelation without changing the diet first was doing more harm than good.

Can't disagree there on any level, and it is very easy to eat a lot of fresh

veggies and fruit, even if you still eat a fist-sized portion of meat for

dinner.

Regards,

Summer McFarland

1.22 HEAL KIDS

1.224.325.5437

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Over fourteen years of organic search engine optimization, marketing and design.

[Guest guest]

I can understand the thought process here but if a person is metal toxic all the

'right food' in the world isn't going to heal them. For a metal toxic person

the metals must come out for any real healing to begin.

People have chelated without special diets (even when the diet was found

beneficial)and have healed. The idea that you can't chelated before fixing gut

problems (yeast, diets, etc...) has been disproven.

Tressie

>

> I was discussing something similar with a biochemist that specializes in toxin

removal and their suggestion was to go to a gluten-free, vegan diet. Given one

month, if lives did not drastically change, then continue toward alternatives.

Their opinion was that if you changed to diet and allowed the immune system to

heal, the body would be able to begin handling some of the overload and that

chelation without changing the diet first was doing more harm than good.

>

> Can't disagree there on any level, and it is very easy to eat a lot of fresh

veggies and fruit, even if you still eat a fist-sized portion of meat for

dinner.

>

> Regards,

>

> Summer McFarland

> 1.22 HEAL KIDS

> 1.224.325.5437

>

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\

-------------------------------------

> Over fourteen years of organic search engine optimization, marketing and

design.

>