Re: Ordering DDI Hair Elements Test

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You have to order it through DLS (Direct Lab Services).

S S

Ordering DDI Hair Elements Test

Posted by: " natkrupnik " natkrupnik@... natkrupnik

Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:26 am (PDT)

Hi all,

I've been reading here that you don't need to have a doctor's order for the

Doctor's Data, Inc. hair elements test. Just called them and they said that for

all their tests they require a doctor's order. Has anyone had a luck ordering it

without a doctor involved? Is there any other lab I can do hair elements test

without doctor's order?

Thank you!

Natallia

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They can't do it if you are in certain states.  I think one of those is NY... 

From: lisambuch <lisambuch@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Ordering DDI Hair Elements Test

Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 6:10 PM

 

You can order the DDI Hair Elements test through Direct Labs:

http://www.directla bs.com/

>

> Hi all,

>

> I've been reading here that you don't need to have a doctor's order for the

Doctor's Data, Inc. hair elements test. Just called them and they said that for

all their tests they require a doctor's order. Has anyone had a luck ordering it

without a doctor involved? Is there any other lab I can do hair elements test

without doctor's order?

>

> Thank you!

> Natallia

>

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Amy W. Osborne wrote:

>

>

> They can't do it if you are in certain states. I think one of those

> is NY...

>

This is incorrect. Direct Labs told me no later than last week that they

will ship a hair test kit to NY.

>

>

>

> From: lisambuch <lisambuch@... <mailto:lisambuch%40>>

> Subject: [ ] Re: Ordering DDI Hair Elements Test

>

> <mailto: %40>

> Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 6:10 PM

>

>

>

> You can order the DDI Hair Elements test through Direct Labs:

> http://www.directla bs.com/

>

>

>

> >

>

> > Hi all,

>

> >

>

> > I've been reading here that you don't need to have a doctor's order

> for the Doctor's Data, Inc. hair elements test. Just called them and

> they said that for all their tests they require a doctor's order. Has

> anyone had a luck ordering it without a doctor involved? Is there any

> other lab I can do hair elements test without doctor's order?

>

> >

>

> > Thank you!

>

> > Natallia

>

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Natalli,

I just ordered the test today. No problems. I am in CA. Doctor's Data have a

doctor whose name they use on the order form. I've read there could be

difficulties if you live in NY. Did you tell them you are from the

Autism-mercury group? They offer a special discount, making the test only $75.

G.

-----I've been reading here that you don't need to have a doctor's order for

the Doctor's Data, Inc. hair elements test. Just called them and they said that

for all their tests they require a doctor's order. Has anyone had a luck

ordering it without a doctor involved? Is there any other lab I can do hair

elements test without doctor's order?

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> They can't do it if you are in certain states. I think one of those is

NY...Â

Correct, if you give a New York address on the order form they can't do it for

you.

New York made hair tests illegal when someone used them to figure out some of

the public schools were poisoning all the kids with lead. It was cheaper to

make hair tests illegal than to remediate the schools.

Andy

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andrewhallcutler wrote:

>

> > They can't do it if you are in certain states. I think one of those

> is NY...Â

>

> Correct, if you give a New York address on the order form they can't

> do it for you.

>

I _think_ NYS law goes something like this:

New York State health law prohibits the testing of specimens collected

in or mailed from New York and prohibits the transmission of data from a

laboratory to NY physicians or residents, unless this laboratory is

licensed under the New York State Public Health Law.

From Direct Labs' point of view, none of this applies to _sending_ a

test kit to a New York address, which they do every day.

The law applies to DDI, not DirectLabs, if the test kit is returned

directly to them ( " collected in or mailed from New York " ).

DirectLabs actually puts the name of a Louisiana MD on the test

requisition, and the return address for the kit is in Louisiana. DDI

transmits the results directly to DirectLabs in Louisiana.

Nothing in NYS law prohibits a _doctor_ outside of NYS from transmitting

test results to _their patient_ in NYS. I think. So this is how

DirectLabs mails the test result to the patient in NYS.

It's all loopholes and technicalities. At some point, DDI may start

looking at the postmark on the test kits it receives and refusing those

with NYS postmark.

> New York made hair tests illegal when someone used them to figure out

> some of the public schools were poisoning all the kids with lead. It

> was cheaper to make hair tests illegal than to remediate the schools.

>

I can't find any reference in NYS law to _hair testing_ being wholehog

illegal. In fact, several well-publicized cases were brought recently

against the NYPD by employees and prospective employees as they were

being drug-tested using a hair test. If the NYPD can do it...

>

> Andy

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html <http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html>

> Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> <http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html>

> Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

> <http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html>

> Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our

> Children

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

> <http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html>

> Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

>

>

[Guest guest]

that's interesting.  I am glad they are finding a way to get it done, as its

really important for people to have more access. 

I wouldn't base any judgments about anything on what the police do.  Turns out

the police do all sorts of things that are illegal.

>

> > They can't do it if you are in certain states. I think one of those

> is NY...Â

>

> Correct, if you give a New York address on the order form they can't

> do it for you.

>

I _think_ NYS law goes something like this:

New York State health law prohibits the testing of specimens collected

in or mailed from New York and prohibits the transmission of data from a

laboratory to NY physicians or residents, unless this laboratory is

licensed under the New York State Public Health Law.

From Direct Labs' point of view, none of this applies to _sending_ a

test kit to a New York address, which they do every day.

The law applies to DDI, not DirectLabs, if the test kit is returned

directly to them ( " collected in or mailed from New York " ).

DirectLabs actually puts the name of a Louisiana MD on the test

requisition, and the return address for the kit is in Louisiana. DDI

transmits the results directly to DirectLabs in Louisiana.

Nothing in NYS law prohibits a _doctor_ outside of NYS from transmitting

test results to _their patient_ in NYS. I think. So this is how

DirectLabs mails the test result to the patient in NYS.

It's all loopholes and technicalities. At some point, DDI may start

looking at the postmark on the test kits it receives and refusing those

with NYS postmark.

> New York made hair tests illegal when someone used them to figure out

> some of the public schools were poisoning all the kids with lead. It

> was cheaper to make hair tests illegal than to remediate the schools.

>

I can't find any reference in NYS law to _hair testing_ being wholehog

illegal. In fact, several well-publicized cases were brought recently

against the NYPD by employees and prospective employees as they were

being drug-tested using a hair test. If the NYPD can do it...

>

> Andy

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html <http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html>

> Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> <http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html>

> Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

> <http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html>

> Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our

> Children

>

> http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

> <http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html>

> Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

>

>

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[Guest guest]

They have this sale every April for Autism Awareness month. If you order the

test another month and mention this group they give you a discount as well.

S S

Re: Ordering DDI Hair Elements Test

Posted by: " Lynne " lynneseal@... lynneseal

Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:15 pm (PDT)

Hi!

Direct Labs told me they are having a sale, starting tomorrow (4/1/10). The test

will sell for $75, rather than the usual $93. Also learned from somewhere else

that you can type in the coupon code AUT to get a discount on the price.

Just ordered online today and they called me back to let me know about the sale

tomorrow.

Lynne

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> Re: Ordering DDI Hair Elements Test

> Posted by: " Lynne " lynneseal@... lynneseal

> Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:15 pm (PDT)

>

> Direct Labs told me they are having a sale, starting tomorrow (4/1/10). The

test will sell for $75, rather than the usual $93. Also learned from somewhere

else that you can type in the coupon code AUT to get a discount on the price.

>

> Lynne

Lynne, thanks for the tip. I ordered the DDI hair elements and a basic

porphyrin test for a total of $100 with the AUT coupon code.

For those not familiar with porphyrin this is info on the more expensive version

of the test.

http://www.metametrix.com/content/DirectoryOfServices/0060PorphyrinsProfile