Re: 18 month old - I need guidance

[Guest guest]

,

 

My youngest son (age 2.5) has similarities to your son high yeast, gut

issues, food texture issues, etc. 

 

We have figured out that in our son, when he says " he's hungry " soon after

eating what should be enough food to sustain him, is ACTUALLY the feeling of

reflux.  So when he says this to me, I know know he is experiencing some type

of GI discomfort... he just doesn't know what the feeling is... and explains it

as " feeling hungry " . 

 

Could this be the case with your son too? 

 

 

From: G <luckylot@...>

Subject: [ ] 18 month old - I need guidance

Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 2:21 AM

 

I have a 4.5 year old who is going through chelation and we have been healing

him with biomedicine for over a year now. He has not been diagnosed as being on

the spectrum, but I think if we didn't start working on him when we did, he

would fit the asperger's category.

Anyway, my question is not about him, but his younger brother who is 1.5 years

old. He has been very different from his older brother from the start, good

sleeper from day one, no colic, easy going, etc, but he DOES have the gut issues

and I believe we are dealing with yeast and bacteria which I am attempting to

treat naturally, plus we supplement him, have him on a GFCF rotation diet, so we

are trying to prevent. I don't know if he was able to catch these things from

his brother and may fight them off with treatment or if we need to consider

chelation with him, as well. He has never been vaccinated. He shows none of the

same signs we saw with my older son, although most of them started much later

for our older son, like hand flapping, lining up cars and ear swatting...just

strange little behaviors that cropped up over time. There is something I don't

recall dealing with and it relates to food. First of all, he is hungry ALL the

time. I can take him out

of his seat after a big meal and he will undoubtedly ask for a snack in a

matter of 30 minutes or less and when he has his mind set on a snack, he will

end up in tears or hanging off my legs repeating his request until I get him

something. He is often happy just carrying around something in a little snack

container, so I can't tell if it's truly hunger or just a comfort for him. He

won't TOUCH a vegetable unless I puree it and pretty much make him eat it by

distracting him and feeding at the same time, he will eat table foods if they

are snacky or sweet like all fruits, and he used to eat meats with no problem,

but lately he is turning his nose up to anything that has to do with a regular

meal. When I puree foods to make sure he is at least getting some nutrition (I

cook everything myself) he is clamping his mouth shut most of the time, I have

to play with him to get him eating (Seems almost like a battle of the wits to

me) and when he does eat the

pureed foods, any little teeny tiny speck of a chunk in it gets spit right out,

he won't chew it!! Although he can eat everything from hard cereal and celery

stuffed with nut butter to all textures of fruits, even kiwi and banana, he will

eat his oatmeal chunky as long as it is uniformly chunky, so it doesn't appear

to be a texture issue. I feel like he should be eating foods like us, cut up on

his tray, am I wrong? Every time I cut food up and put it on his tray, he tosses

it all on the floor. I am really at my wits end with this and I don't want to

make mealtime stressful either. I know that allergies are born from stress

associations, so I am completely at a loss. If I don't feed him healthy foods,

he will walk around yelling snack, snack, snack all afternoon, which he does

anyway, lol. My snack options are so limited with him already. I am just

wondering if this seems like a sensory issue, some sort of regression or just

normal picky kid stuff (I

don't know what is normal since our first isn't quite " normal " in any way, ha

ha, he was advanced in many ways and still is and has major sensory processing

disorder issues when the gut is out of balance, but he is our FABULOUS eater

too). One thing that is probably important to know about our younger son is that

he got teeth very late, even now, he still only has the four front teeth and he

just recently got his molars, weird, I know, but that must play into this a bit?

How can a child comfortably eat table food when they don't have all of their

chompers? I want to make sure he can digest all of his food properly so I always

provide some cut food on his tray (which he mostly throws off rather than

eating) and I puree the rest into a mixed meal. I just don't want to be an

enabler either...is this a case of needing him to let me know when he is ready

to advance or do I need to do something different? I do try things like giving

him foods that I want him

to eat with dips like pureed fruits, which sometimes works, other times ends up

in dumped dips and food on the floor, anyway. Amazingly, he ate raw purple

cabbage dipped into baby pears, so sometimes it works. I just didn't know, if I

should call the state or not, he is in the system, because he was born with

torticollis, so I have access, but didn't know if this was something to even

worry about. I don't want to be the second-time dweeby mom who worries over

everything by comparing her two kids....

[Guest guest]

My guy ate and drank all the time too. He was a spitter as a baby and did

outgrow that around 9 months. I had him skin tested for allergies, nothing.

But my gut would say did you go slow enough introducing foods and are you sure

no allergies or reflux? Honestly, my PPD-NOS was eating everything healthy we

gave him at one time and with age he started refusing and turned into the picky

toddler. Today looking back I'm still not sure why, if normal. Heck, my

sisters 12 year old won't eat a fruit or a vegetable today. I'm so grateful for

what my kids eat.

I guess since you are in the states system, it wouldn't hurt getting a speech

and ot to look at sensory issues. Wouldn't hurt to do some of the techniques

either, like brushing. My son was also born with torticollis and plagiocephaly,

and seeing a chiropractor if your not already would really be a nice touch. Big

regrets not using one sooner for my tort guy.

I guess adding a digestive enzyme would be good and a probiotic. My PPD-NOS

tested negative to basic skin testing but he'll tell you he feels better on

digestive enzymes. We ran out for about 5 days, he could tell. And today he

can tell me he kind of throws up in his throat, so reflux. So looking back at

all the spitting up he did, all the water he drank. No doubt, reflux. Big

yeast issues too. Could never keep him looking nice no matter the creams or

diapers.

Anyway...just my thoughts.

Tammy

[ ] 18 month old - I need guidance

I have a 4.5 year old who is going through chelation and we have been healing

him with biomedicine for over a year now. He has not been diagnosed as being on

the spectrum, but I think if we didn't start working on him when we did, he

would fit the asperger's category.

Anyway, my question is not about him, but his younger brother who is 1.5 years

old. He has been very different from his older brother from the start, good

sleeper from day one, no colic, easy going, etc, but he DOES have the gut issues

and I believe we are dealing with yeast and bacteria which I am attempting to

treat naturally, plus we supplement him, have him on a GFCF rotation diet, so we

are trying to prevent. I don't know if he was able to catch these things from

his brother and may fight them off with treatment or if we need to consider

chelation with him, as well. He has never been vaccinated. He shows none of the

same signs we saw with my older son, although most of them started much later

for our older son, like hand flapping, lining up cars and ear swatting...just

strange little behaviors that cropped up over time. There is something I don't

recall dealing with and it relates to food. First of all, he is hungry ALL the

time. I can take him out of his seat after a big meal and he will undoubtedly

ask for a snack in a matter of 30 minutes or less and when he has his mind set

on a snack, he will end up in tears or hanging off my legs repeating his request

until I get him something. He is often happy just carrying around something in a

little snack container, so I can't tell if it's truly hunger or just a comfort

for him. He won't TOUCH a vegetable unless I puree it and pretty much make him

eat it by distracting him and feeding at the same time, he will eat table foods

if they are snacky or sweet like all fruits, and he used to eat meats with no

problem, but lately he is turning his nose up to anything that has to do with a

regular meal. When I puree foods to make sure he is at least getting some

nutrition (I cook everything myself) he is clamping his mouth shut most of the

time, I have to play with him to get him eating (Seems almost like a battle of

the wits to me) and when he does eat the pureed foods, any little teeny tiny

speck of a chunk in it gets spit right out, he won't chew it!! Although he can

eat everything from hard cereal and celery stuffed with nut butter to all

textures of fruits, even kiwi and banana, he will eat his oatmeal chunky as long

as it is uniformly chunky, so it doesn't appear to be a texture issue. I feel

like he should be eating foods like us, cut up on his tray, am I wrong? Every

time I cut food up and put it on his tray, he tosses it all on the floor. I am

really at my wits end with this and I don't want to make mealtime stressful

either. I know that allergies are born from stress associations, so I am

completely at a loss. If I don't feed him healthy foods, he will walk around

yelling snack, snack, snack all afternoon, which he does anyway, lol. My snack

options are so limited with him already. I am just wondering if this seems like

a sensory issue, some sort of regression or just normal picky kid stuff (I don't

know what is normal since our first isn't quite " normal " in any way, ha ha, he

was advanced in many ways and still is and has major sensory processing disorder

issues when the gut is out of balance, but he is our FABULOUS eater too). One

thing that is probably important to know about our younger son is that he got

teeth very late, even now, he still only has the four front teeth and he just

recently got his molars, weird, I know, but that must play into this a bit? How

can a child comfortably eat table food when they don't have all of their

chompers? I want to make sure he can digest all of his food properly so I always

provide some cut food on his tray (which he mostly throws off rather than

eating) and I puree the rest into a mixed meal. I just don't want to be an

enabler either...is this a case of needing him to let me know when he is ready

to advance or do I need to do something different? I do try things like giving

him foods that I want him to eat with dips like pureed fruits, which sometimes

works, other times ends up in dumped dips and food on the floor, anyway.

Amazingly, he ate raw purple cabbage dipped into baby pears, so sometimes it

works. I just didn't know, if I should call the state or not, he is in the

system, because he was born with torticollis, so I have access, but didn't know

if this was something to even worry about. I don't want to be the second-time

dweeby mom who worries over everything by comparing her two kids....

[Guest guest]

>>First of all, he is hungry ALL the time. I can take him out of his seat after

a big meal and he will undoubtedly ask for a snack in a matter of 30 minutes or

less and when he has his mind set on a snack, he will end up in tears or hanging

off my legs repeating his request until I get him something.

For my son, this meant food intolerance and yeast overgrowth. Try digestive

enzymes, and probiotics or biotin.

>>Every time I cut food up and put it on his tray, he tosses it all on the

floor.

My son threw his food twice. The first time he did it, I cleaned up the mess

and did not allow any more food until the next meal. He did it one more time,

and I did the same thing. He never did it again.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I don't know, he has never had outward signs of it, how else would I know?

>

>

> From: G <luckylot@...>

> Subject: [ ] 18 month old - I need guidance

>

> Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 2:21 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> I have a 4.5 year old who is going through chelation and we have been healing

him with biomedicine for over a year now. He has not been diagnosed as being on

the spectrum, but I think if we didn't start working on him when we did, he

would fit the asperger's category.

>

> Anyway, my question is not about him, but his younger brother who is 1.5 years

old. He has been very different from his older brother from the start, good

sleeper from day one, no colic, easy going, etc, but he DOES have the gut issues

and I believe we are dealing with yeast and bacteria which I am attempting to

treat naturally, plus we supplement him, have him on a GFCF rotation diet, so we

are trying to prevent. I don't know if he was able to catch these things from

his brother and may fight them off with treatment or if we need to consider

chelation with him, as well. He has never been vaccinated. He shows none of the

same signs we saw with my older son, although most of them started much later

for our older son, like hand flapping, lining up cars and ear swatting...just

strange little behaviors that cropped up over time. There is something I don't

recall dealing with and it relates to food. First of all, he is hungry ALL the

time. I can take him out

> of his seat after a big meal and he will undoubtedly ask for a snack in a

matter of 30 minutes or less and when he has his mind set on a snack, he will

end up in tears or hanging off my legs repeating his request until I get him

something. He is often happy just carrying around something in a little snack

container, so I can't tell if it's truly hunger or just a comfort for him. He

won't TOUCH a vegetable unless I puree it and pretty much make him eat it by

distracting him and feeding at the same time, he will eat table foods if they

are snacky or sweet like all fruits, and he used to eat meats with no problem,

but lately he is turning his nose up to anything that has to do with a regular

meal. When I puree foods to make sure he is at least getting some nutrition (I

cook everything myself) he is clamping his mouth shut most of the time, I have

to play with him to get him eating (Seems almost like a battle of the wits to

me) and when he does eat the

> pureed foods, any little teeny tiny speck of a chunk in it gets spit right

out, he won't chew it!! Although he can eat everything from hard cereal and

celery stuffed with nut butter to all textures of fruits, even kiwi and banana,

he will eat his oatmeal chunky as long as it is uniformly chunky, so it doesn't

appear to be a texture issue. I feel like he should be eating foods like us, cut

up on his tray, am I wrong? Every time I cut food up and put it on his tray, he

tosses it all on the floor. I am really at my wits end with this and I don't

want to make mealtime stressful either. I know that allergies are born from

stress associations, so I am completely at a loss. If I don't feed him healthy

foods, he will walk around yelling snack, snack, snack all afternoon, which he

does anyway, lol. My snack options are so limited with him already. I am just

wondering if this seems like a sensory issue, some sort of regression or just

normal picky kid stuff (I

> don't know what is normal since our first isn't quite " normal " in any way, ha

ha, he was advanced in many ways and still is and has major sensory processing

disorder issues when the gut is out of balance, but he is our FABULOUS eater

too). One thing that is probably important to know about our younger son is that

he got teeth very late, even now, he still only has the four front teeth and he

just recently got his molars, weird, I know, but that must play into this a bit?

How can a child comfortably eat table food when they don't have all of their

chompers? I want to make sure he can digest all of his food properly so I always

provide some cut food on his tray (which he mostly throws off rather than

eating) and I puree the rest into a mixed meal. I just don't want to be an

enabler either...is this a case of needing him to let me know when he is ready

to advance or do I need to do something different? I do try things like giving

him foods that I want him

> to eat with dips like pureed fruits, which sometimes works, other times ends

up in dumped dips and food on the floor, anyway. Amazingly, he ate raw purple

cabbage dipped into baby pears, so sometimes it works. I just didn't know, if I

should call the state or not, he is in the system, because he was born with

torticollis, so I have access, but didn't know if this was something to even

worry about. I don't want to be the second-time dweeby mom who worries over

everything by comparing her two kids....

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think my son might have been a spitter too, if I remember correctly, but I

think I remember attesting it to the tort, because his neck was kinked. Maybe

it was more...

I always went slow with the introduction of foods, waiting 3-4 days between each

new one, but I do suspect food intolerances which we plan to test for with an

IgG in February.

We do use enzymes and probiotics (a lot of them in fact) and he is on a GFCF

rotation diet already, we keep carbs to a minimum and they get a lot of organic

meat and veggies two to three times a day, minimum. I also give both kids

electrolyte drinks and apple cider vinegar with baking soda rotated which among

many things, aids in digestion and balances PH levels in the stomach....

We actually see a chiropractor for allergy elimination twice a week, I should

ask him about adjustments for both boys, especially considering the tort. He

grew out of that as soon as he started walking at 11 months, but maybe there is

still something out of balance.

Thanks,

>

> My guy ate and drank all the time too. He was a spitter as a baby and did

outgrow that around 9 months. I had him skin tested for allergies, nothing.

>

> But my gut would say did you go slow enough introducing foods and are you sure

no allergies or reflux? Honestly, my PPD-NOS was eating everything healthy we

gave him at one time and with age he started refusing and turned into the picky

toddler. Today looking back I'm still not sure why, if normal. Heck, my

sisters 12 year old won't eat a fruit or a vegetable today. I'm so grateful for

what my kids eat.

>

> I guess since you are in the states system, it wouldn't hurt getting a speech

and ot to look at sensory issues. Wouldn't hurt to do some of the techniques

either, like brushing. My son was also born with torticollis and plagiocephaly,

and seeing a chiropractor if your not already would really be a nice touch. Big

regrets not using one sooner for my tort guy.

>

> I guess adding a digestive enzyme would be good and a probiotic. My PPD-NOS

tested negative to basic skin testing but he'll tell you he feels better on

digestive enzymes. We ran out for about 5 days, he could tell. And today he

can tell me he kind of throws up in his throat, so reflux. So looking back at

all the spitting up he did, all the water he drank. No doubt, reflux. Big

yeast issues too. Could never keep him looking nice no matter the creams or

diapers.

>

> Anyway...just my thoughts.

>

> Tammy

>

> [ ] 18 month old - I need guidance

>

>

>

> I have a 4.5 year old who is going through chelation and we have been

healing him with biomedicine for over a year now. He has not been diagnosed as

being on the spectrum, but I think if we didn't start working on him when we

did, he would fit the asperger's category.

>

> Anyway, my question is not about him, but his younger brother who is 1.5

years old. He has been very different from his older brother from the start,

good sleeper from day one, no colic, easy going, etc, but he DOES have the gut

issues and I believe we are dealing with yeast and bacteria which I am

attempting to treat naturally, plus we supplement him, have him on a GFCF

rotation diet, so we are trying to prevent. I don't know if he was able to catch

these things from his brother and may fight them off with treatment or if we

need to consider chelation with him, as well. He has never been vaccinated. He

shows none of the same signs we saw with my older son, although most of them

started much later for our older son, like hand flapping, lining up cars and ear

swatting...just strange little behaviors that cropped up over time. There is

something I don't recall dealing with and it relates to food. First of all, he

is hungry ALL the time. I can take him out of his seat after a big meal and he

will undoubtedly ask for a snack in a matter of 30 minutes or less and when he

has his mind set on a snack, he will end up in tears or hanging off my legs

repeating his request until I get him something. He is often happy just carrying

around something in a little snack container, so I can't tell if it's truly

hunger or just a comfort for him. He won't TOUCH a vegetable unless I puree it

and pretty much make him eat it by distracting him and feeding at the same time,

he will eat table foods if they are snacky or sweet like all fruits, and he used

to eat meats with no problem, but lately he is turning his nose up to anything

that has to do with a regular meal. When I puree foods to make sure he is at

least getting some nutrition (I cook everything myself) he is clamping his mouth

shut most of the time, I have to play with him to get him eating (Seems almost

like a battle of the wits to me) and when he does eat the pureed foods, any

little teeny tiny speck of a chunk in it gets spit right out, he won't chew it!!

Although he can eat everything from hard cereal and celery stuffed with nut

butter to all textures of fruits, even kiwi and banana, he will eat his oatmeal

chunky as long as it is uniformly chunky, so it doesn't appear to be a texture

issue. I feel like he should be eating foods like us, cut up on his tray, am I

wrong? Every time I cut food up and put it on his tray, he tosses it all on the

floor. I am really at my wits end with this and I don't want to make mealtime

stressful either. I know that allergies are born from stress associations, so I

am completely at a loss. If I don't feed him healthy foods, he will walk around

yelling snack, snack, snack all afternoon, which he does anyway, lol. My snack

options are so limited with him already. I am just wondering if this seems like

a sensory issue, some sort of regression or just normal picky kid stuff (I don't

know what is normal since our first isn't quite " normal " in any way, ha ha, he

was advanced in many ways and still is and has major sensory processing disorder

issues when the gut is out of balance, but he is our FABULOUS eater too). One

thing that is probably important to know about our younger son is that he got

teeth very late, even now, he still only has the four front teeth and he just

recently got his molars, weird, I know, but that must play into this a bit? How

can a child comfortably eat table food when they don't have all of their

chompers? I want to make sure he can digest all of his food properly so I always

provide some cut food on his tray (which he mostly throws off rather than

eating) and I puree the rest into a mixed meal. I just don't want to be an

enabler either...is this a case of needing him to let me know when he is ready

to advance or do I need to do something different? I do try things like giving

him foods that I want him to eat with dips like pureed fruits, which sometimes

works, other times ends up in dumped dips and food on the floor, anyway.

Amazingly, he ate raw purple cabbage dipped into baby pears, so sometimes it

works. I just didn't know, if I should call the state or not, he is in the

system, because he was born with torticollis, so I have access, but didn't know

if this was something to even worry about. I don't want to be the second-time

dweeby mom who worries over everything by comparing her two kids....

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We use one TriEnza with each meal and I give about 5mg of Biotin daily,

sometimes a little more, I am working up slowly. I think I will have to be more

strict about the meals, I just worry, because he is already too small, he was

failure to thrive most of his life, although he does grow, just very slowly, so

I don't like the thought of removing a meal as a lesson, it's been hard with

him, he is so willful! I am usually more strict about things like this, but

with him, I've been more tolerant...

> >>First of all, he is hungry ALL the time. I can take him out of his seat

after a big meal and he will undoubtedly ask for a snack in a matter of 30

minutes or less and when he has his mind set on a snack, he will end up in tears

or hanging off my legs repeating his request until I get him something.

>

>

> For my son, this meant food intolerance and yeast overgrowth. Try digestive

enzymes, and probiotics or biotin.

>

>

> >>Every time I cut food up and put it on his tray, he tosses it all on the

floor.

>

>

> My son threw his food twice. The first time he did it, I cleaned up the mess

and did not allow any more food until the next meal. He did it one more time,

and I did the same thing. He never did it again.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

For me, the clues of reflux are:

 

1.  food refusal- " According to this study about 25 percent of normal children

exhibited some type of feeding refusal compared to nearly 60 percent of kids

with reflux disease.

 

So how do you tell normal picky eating from ‘extreme' picky eating?

Unfortunately, you can't -- look for other symptoms of reflux that support a

diagnosis and be very suspicious if they won't eat. "

 

2.  food textural aversions.  My theory with our son is that the digestive

process is almost  " painful " ... so if the food is pureed than it is more easily

digested.  There was a time with him that everything needed to be smooth... and

the consistency of a thick soup.  We have come a very long way since then and

he is now eating a variety of foods and textures... but it was a challenge the

whole way.

 

My son had an endoscopy and was diagnosed with an eosinophilic digestive

disorder...  Eosinophilic conditions are common with these symptoms.

 

I would try digestive enzymes with meals and see if you see an improvement

first.  My son is still on 15 mg Prevacid daily which is now available over the

counter... but we have been able to drop Pepcid.  I hate the GI meds... so I

would try the digestive enzyme first and see if you start to see symptom

improvement over the next 1-2 months.  If not, you could give the 15 mg

Prevacid a try and see if that's helpful. 

 

My thought is he probably has a lot of GI inflammation causing discomfort when

he eats.

 

I also bought some aloe juice to try the next time we try to remove the

Prevacid.... but we have not tried again yet.  One of our GI loves it for

reflux... and the other GI we see hates it... so you could look at this for your

child too and make up your own mind. 

 

It's never easy.  ;(  Hang in there and hope he's eating better soon.

From: G <luckylot@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: 18 month old - I need guidance

Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 6:42 PM

 

I don't know, he has never had outward signs of it, how else would I know?

>

>

> From: G <luckylot@.. .>

> Subject: [ ] 18 month old - I need guidance

>

> Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 2:21 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> I have a 4.5 year old who is going through chelation and we have been healing

him with biomedicine for over a year now. He has not been diagnosed as being on

the spectrum, but I think if we didn't start working on him when we did, he

would fit the asperger's category.

>

> Anyway, my question is not about him, but his younger brother who is 1.5 years

old. He has been very different from his older brother from the start, good

sleeper from day one, no colic, easy going, etc, but he DOES have the gut issues

and I believe we are dealing with yeast and bacteria which I am attempting to

treat naturally, plus we supplement him, have him on a GFCF rotation diet, so we

are trying to prevent. I don't know if he was able to catch these things from

his brother and may fight them off with treatment or if we need to consider

chelation with him, as well. He has never been vaccinated. He shows none of the

same signs we saw with my older son, although most of them started much later

for our older son, like hand flapping, lining up cars and ear swatting...just

strange little behaviors that cropped up over time. There is something I don't

recall dealing with and it relates to food. First of all, he is hungry ALL the

time. I can take him

out

> of his seat after a big meal and he will undoubtedly ask for a snack in a

matter of 30 minutes or less and when he has his mind set on a snack, he will

end up in tears or hanging off my legs repeating his request until I get him

something. He is often happy just carrying around something in a little snack

container, so I can't tell if it's truly hunger or just a comfort for him. He

won't TOUCH a vegetable unless I puree it and pretty much make him eat it by

distracting him and feeding at the same time, he will eat table foods if they

are snacky or sweet like all fruits, and he used to eat meats with no problem,

but lately he is turning his nose up to anything that has to do with a regular

meal. When I puree foods to make sure he is at least getting some nutrition (I

cook everything myself) he is clamping his mouth shut most of the time, I have

to play with him to get him eating (Seems almost like a battle of the wits to

me) and when he does eat the

> pureed foods, any little teeny tiny speck of a chunk in it gets spit right

out, he won't chew it!! Although he can eat everything from hard cereal and

celery stuffed with nut butter to all textures of fruits, even kiwi and banana,

he will eat his oatmeal chunky as long as it is uniformly chunky, so it doesn't

appear to be a texture issue. I feel like he should be eating foods like us, cut

up on his tray, am I wrong? Every time I cut food up and put it on his tray, he

tosses it all on the floor. I am really at my wits end with this and I don't

want to make mealtime stressful either. I know that allergies are born from

stress associations, so I am completely at a loss. If I don't feed him healthy

foods, he will walk around yelling snack, snack, snack all afternoon, which he

does anyway, lol. My snack options are so limited with him already. I am just

wondering if this seems like a sensory issue, some sort of regression or just

normal picky kid stuff (I

> don't know what is normal since our first isn't quite " normal " in any way, ha

ha, he was advanced in many ways and still is and has major sensory processing

disorder issues when the gut is out of balance, but he is our FABULOUS eater

too). One thing that is probably important to know about our younger son is that

he got teeth very late, even now, he still only has the four front teeth and he

just recently got his molars, weird, I know, but that must play into this a bit?

How can a child comfortably eat table food when they don't have all of their

chompers? I want to make sure he can digest all of his food properly so I always

provide some cut food on his tray (which he mostly throws off rather than

eating) and I puree the rest into a mixed meal. I just don't want to be an

enabler either...is this a case of needing him to let me know when he is ready

to advance or do I need to do something different? I do try things like giving

him foods that I want him

> to eat with dips like pureed fruits, which sometimes works, other times ends

up in dumped dips and food on the floor, anyway. Amazingly, he ate raw purple

cabbage dipped into baby pears, so sometimes it works. I just didn't know, if I

should call the state or not, he is in the system, because he was born with

torticollis, so I have access, but didn't know if this was something to even

worry about. I don't want to be the second-time dweeby mom who worries over

everything by comparing her two kids....

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I have an 18-month-old with many of the same issues, except the sensory

issues. She will eat indiscriminately.

She's constantly hungry and asking for food, and is very persistent until

she gets what she wants. she has a huge appetite and I think on some days

she eats more than I do.

She also has only 4 teeth and two molars are partially out. Late teething can

sometimes be a sign of slow thyroid function. Could you get his levels checked?

also, I've heard that kids don't have the enzymes to digest food until their

teeth come out. maybe that might explain some of the gut issues.

It sounds like your son has high yeast which also leads to constant hunger. My

daughter certainly does and I have started to give her a drop of GSE as needed.

What are his poops like?

Taking advantage of state services can't hurt. Why don't you give them a call

and

have them assess his development?

HTH,

>

> I have a 4.5 year old who is going through chelation and we have been healing

him with biomedicine for over a year now. He has not been diagnosed as being on

the spectrum, but I think if we didn't start working on him when we did, he

would fit the asperger's category.

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> Anyway, my question is not about him, but his younger brother who is 1.5 years

old. He has been very different from his older brother from the start, good

sleeper from day one, no colic, easy going, etc, but he DOES have the gut issues

and I believe we are dealing with yeast and bacteria which I am attempting to

treat naturally, plus we supplement him, have him on a GFCF rotation diet, so we

are trying to prevent. I don't know if he was able to catch these things from

his brother and may fight them off with treatment or if we need to consider

chelation with him, as well. He has never been vaccinated. He shows none of

the same signs we saw with my older son, although most of them started much

later for our older son, like hand flapping, lining up cars and ear

swatting...just strange little behaviors that cropped up over time. There is

something I don't recall dealing with and it relates to food. First of all, he

is hungry ALL the time. I can take him out of his seat after a big meal and he

will undoubtedly ask for a snack in a matter of 30 minutes or less and when he

has his mind set on a snack, he will end up in tears or hanging off my legs

repeating his request until I get him something. He is often happy just

carrying around something in a little snack container, so I can't tell if it's

truly hunger or just a comfort for him. He won't TOUCH a vegetable unless I

puree it and pretty much make him eat it by distracting him and feeding at the

same time, he will eat table foods if they are snacky or sweet like all fruits,

and he used to eat meats with no problem, but lately he is turning his nose up

to anything that has to do with a regular meal. When I puree foods to make sure

he is at least getting some nutrition (I cook everything myself) he is clamping

his mouth shut most of the time, I have to play with him to get him eating

(Seems almost like a battle of the wits to me) and when he does eat the pureed

foods, any little teeny tiny speck of a chunk in it gets spit right out, he

won't chew it!! Although he can eat everything from hard cereal and celery

stuffed with nut butter to all textures of fruits, even kiwi and banana, he will

eat his oatmeal chunky as long as it is uniformly chunky, so it doesn't appear

to be a texture issue. I feel like he should be eating foods like us, cut up on

his tray, am I wrong? Every time I cut food up and put it on his tray, he

tosses it all on the floor. I am really at my wits end with this and I don't

want to make mealtime stressful either. I know that allergies are born from

stress associations, so I am completely at a loss. If I don't feed him healthy

foods, he will walk around yelling snack, snack, snack all afternoon, which he

does anyway, lol. My snack options are so limited with him already. I am just

wondering if this seems like a sensory issue, some sort of regression or just

normal picky kid stuff (I don't know what is normal since our first isn't quite

" normal " in any way, ha ha, he was advanced in many ways and still is and has

major sensory processing disorder issues when the gut is out of balance, but he

is our FABULOUS eater too). One thing that is probably important to know about

our younger son is that he got teeth very late, even now, he still only has the

four front teeth and he just recently got his molars, weird, I know, but that

must play into this a bit? How can a child comfortably eat table food when they

don't have all of their chompers? I want to make sure he can digest all of his

food properly so I always provide some cut food on his tray (which he mostly

throws off rather than eating) and I puree the rest into a mixed meal. I just

don't want to be an enabler either...is this a case of needing him to let me

know when he is ready to advance or do I need to do something different? I do

try things like giving him foods that I want him to eat with dips like pureed

fruits, which sometimes works, other times ends up in dumped dips and food on

the floor, anyway. Amazingly, he ate raw purple cabbage dipped into baby pears,

so sometimes it works. I just didn't know, if I should call the state or not, he

is in the system, because he was born with torticollis, so I have access, but

didn't know if this was something to even worry about. I don't want to be the

second-time dweeby mom who worries over everything by comparing her two kids....

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Thank you, we actually started both the enzymes and s Aloe Juice just

recently. Plus we are battling the yeast which I think was an issue, we are

still in die off mode. Interestingly though, he didn't need to eat NEARLY as

much today!! It's a start and it's already looking better, minus the die off.

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> > Subject: [ ] 18 month old - I need guidance

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> > I have a 4.5 year old who is going through chelation and we have been

healing him with biomedicine for over a year now. He has not been diagnosed as

being on the spectrum, but I think if we didn't start working on him when we

did, he would fit the asperger's category.

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> > Anyway, my question is not about him, but his younger brother who is 1.5

years old. He has been very different from his older brother from the start,

good sleeper from day one, no colic, easy going, etc, but he DOES have the gut

issues and I believe we are dealing with yeast and bacteria which I am

attempting to treat naturally, plus we supplement him, have him on a GFCF

rotation diet, so we are trying to prevent. I don't know if he was able to catch

these things from his brother and may fight them off with treatment or if we

need to consider chelation with him, as well. He has never been vaccinated. He

shows none of the same signs we saw with my older son, although most of them

started much later for our older son, like hand flapping, lining up cars and ear

swatting...just strange little behaviors that cropped up over time. There is

something I don't recall dealing with and it relates to food. First of all, he

is hungry ALL the time. I can take him

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> > of his seat after a big meal and he will undoubtedly ask for a snack in a

matter of 30 minutes or less and when he has his mind set on a snack, he will

end up in tears or hanging off my legs repeating his request until I get him

something. He is often happy just carrying around something in a little snack

container, so I can't tell if it's truly hunger or just a comfort for him. He

won't TOUCH a vegetable unless I puree it and pretty much make him eat it by

distracting him and feeding at the same time, he will eat table foods if they

are snacky or sweet like all fruits, and he used to eat meats with no problem,

but lately he is turning his nose up to anything that has to do with a regular

meal. When I puree foods to make sure he is at least getting some nutrition (I

cook everything myself) he is clamping his mouth shut most of the time, I have

to play with him to get him eating (Seems almost like a battle of the wits to

me) and when he does eat the

> > pureed foods, any little teeny tiny speck of a chunk in it gets spit right

out, he won't chew it!! Although he can eat everything from hard cereal and

celery stuffed with nut butter to all textures of fruits, even kiwi and banana,

he will eat his oatmeal chunky as long as it is uniformly chunky, so it doesn't

appear to be a texture issue. I feel like he should be eating foods like us, cut

up on his tray, am I wrong? Every time I cut food up and put it on his tray, he

tosses it all on the floor. I am really at my wits end with this and I don't

want to make mealtime stressful either. I know that allergies are born from

stress associations, so I am completely at a loss. If I don't feed him healthy

foods, he will walk around yelling snack, snack, snack all afternoon, which he

does anyway, lol. My snack options are so limited with him already. I am just

wondering if this seems like a sensory issue, some sort of regression or just

normal picky kid stuff (I

> > don't know what is normal since our first isn't quite " normal " in any way,

ha ha, he was advanced in many ways and still is and has major sensory

processing disorder issues when the gut is out of balance, but he is our

FABULOUS eater too). One thing that is probably important to know about our

younger son is that he got teeth very late, even now, he still only has the four

front teeth and he just recently got his molars, weird, I know, but that must

play into this a bit? How can a child comfortably eat table food when they don't

have all of their chompers? I want to make sure he can digest all of his food

properly so I always provide some cut food on his tray (which he mostly throws

off rather than eating) and I puree the rest into a mixed meal. I just don't

want to be an enabler either...is this a case of needing him to let me know when

he is ready to advance or do I need to do something different? I do try things

like giving him foods that I want him

> > to eat with dips like pureed fruits, which sometimes works, other times ends

up in dumped dips and food on the floor, anyway. Amazingly, he ate raw purple

cabbage dipped into baby pears, so sometimes it works. I just didn't know, if I

should call the state or not, he is in the system, because he was born with

torticollis, so I have access, but didn't know if this was something to even

worry about. I don't want to be the second-time dweeby mom who worries over

everything by comparing her two kids....

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