Re: Moodiness and tantrums with chelation this weekend

[Guest guest]

They were talking about DMSA and the acidity. DMSA is susceptible to oxidation.

ALA is more stable. I would still mix it up a dose at a time.

What you are probably experiencing is a bout of yeast. Try boosting your

protocol.

TJ

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From: khieken <khieken@...>

Sent: Sun, June 20, 2010 11:01:33 AM

Subject: [ ] Moodiness and tantrums with chelation this weekend

We are on round 30 of ALA chelation and having an especially bad time. 10 yo

daughter is very moody, throwing tantrums like we haven't seen since starting

chelation. We haven't made any changes to supplements or diet. We did miss 3

rounds of chelation due to vacation and very busy weekend schedules, but we

started back 2 weeks ago without any big problems. I'm wondering about a few

things: I mix ALA in juice, it is refrigerated during day but I haven't been

keeping it cool at night, and it has been pretty hot here (esp since our AC is

in the process of being repaired.) Does it need to be kept cool? Also, I have

been mixing it with o.j. but just recently read that pineapple or lemon is

better d/t acidity content. However, I have been using o.j. all along, and

haven't had problems up until now.

Last p.m. she was very upset that she couldn't fall asleep and had to keep

getting up to urinate. Again, this has happened in the past, and she has been

ruled out for urinary tract infections many times. Once she falls asleep she is

fine. Sounds maybe like an adrenal issue, but I hate to add another supplement

to the mix until I can figure out what has thrown her off.

Does anyone have any thoughts/ideas/suggestions? We are just about at our wits

end.

Thanks

[Guest guest]

You hit the nail on the head- adrenals. ALA always put a lot of stress on the

adrenals here. Moodiness and tantrums are the tell tale signs. Adrenal Cortex

Extract, vitamin C, b complex and vitamin b5 are all helpful. I here you on the

adding new supps thing- but adrenal supporting supps were and still are some of

the most important we give our son. He is a happy boy with no tantrums and no

sound sensitivity now as a result. As to the night time doses- we keep them on

ice to keep them cool and we use oj also, without a problem.

Irene

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> We are on round 30 of ALA chelation and having an especially bad time. 10 yo

daughter is very moody, throwing tantrums like we haven't seen since starting

chelation. We haven't made any changes to supplements or diet. We did miss 3

rounds of chelation due to vacation and very busy weekend schedules, but we

started back 2 weeks ago without any big problems. I'm wondering about a few

things: I mix ALA in juice, it is refrigerated during day but I haven't been

keeping it cool at night, and it has been pretty hot here (esp since our AC is

in the process of being repaired.) Does it need to be kept cool? Also, I have

been mixing it with o.j. but just recently read that pineapple or lemon is

better d/t acidity content. However, I have been using o.j. all along, and

haven't had problems up until now.

>

> Last p.m. she was very upset that she couldn't fall asleep and had to keep

getting up to urinate. Again, this has happened in the past, and she has been

ruled out for urinary tract infections many times. Once she falls asleep she is

fine. Sounds maybe like an adrenal issue, but I hate to add another supplement

to the mix until I can figure out what has thrown her off.

>

> Does anyone have any thoughts/ideas/suggestions? We are just about at our

wits end.

>

> Thanks

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks TJ and Irene. I have stopped this round today. I will bump up our yeast

protocol a bit and see if that helps.

Irene, I believe I have tried adrenal cortex in the past, but for some reason I

thought it was activating (maybe the dose was too high). I am willing to try it

again. I have Adrenal Cortex Natural Glandular that is 250mg capsules. She is a

very sensitive reactor, so I was thinking about 1/4 capsule (or even smaller).

Would I give that once/day (I remember mornings being better so as to not

interfere with sleep).

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> > We are on round 30 of ALA chelation and having an especially bad time. 10 yo

daughter is very moody, throwing tantrums like we haven't seen since starting

chelation. We haven't made any changes to supplements or diet. We did miss 3

rounds of chelation due to vacation and very busy weekend schedules, but we

started back 2 weeks ago without any big problems. I'm wondering about a few

things: I mix ALA in juice, it is refrigerated during day but I haven't been

keeping it cool at night, and it has been pretty hot here (esp since our AC is

in the process of being repaired.) Does it need to be kept cool? Also, I have

been mixing it with o.j. but just recently read that pineapple or lemon is

better d/t acidity content. However, I have been using o.j. all along, and

haven't had problems up until now.

> >

> > Last p.m. she was very upset that she couldn't fall asleep and had to keep

getting up to urinate. Again, this has happened in the past, and she has been

ruled out for urinary tract infections many times. Once she falls asleep she is

fine. Sounds maybe like an adrenal issue, but I hate to add another supplement

to the mix until I can figure out what has thrown her off.

> >

> > Does anyone have any thoughts/ideas/suggestions? We are just about at our

wits end.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

How about an artichoke? The good stuff is in the middle and you get a little

more good with each piece as you go

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> > > We are on round 30 of ALA chelation and having an especially bad time. 10

yo daughter is very moody, throwing tantrums like we haven't seen since starting

chelation. We haven't made any changes to supplements or diet. We did miss 3

rounds of chelation due to vacation and very busy weekend schedules, but we

started back 2 weeks ago without any big problems. I'm wondering about a few

things: I mix ALA in juice, it is refrigerated during day but I haven't been

keeping it cool at night, and it has been pretty hot here (esp since our AC is

in the process of being repaired.) Does it need to be kept cool? Also, I have

been mixing it with o.j. but just recently read that pineapple or lemon is

better d/t acidity content. However, I have been using o.j. all along, and

haven't had problems up until now.

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> > > Last p.m. she was very upset that she couldn't fall asleep and had to keep

getting up to urinate. Again, this has happened in the past, and she has been

ruled out for urinary tract infections many times. Once she falls asleep she is

fine. Sounds maybe like an adrenal issue, but I hate to add another supplement

to the mix until I can figure out what has thrown her off.

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> > > Does anyone have any thoughts/ideas/suggestions? We are just about at our

wits end.

> > >

> > > Thanks

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[Guest guest]

If ACE caused hyperactivity - then the dose you gave was too high- you can start

with 1/4 cap or less - give it early in the day to start. We give divided doses

throughout the day. No ACE later than 3 or 4pm or it will interfere with sleep.

Needs vary greatly from child to child- my son has strong adrenal signs on his

hair test and needs 5 capsules a day. But your child may just need 1/4 cap or

less. Go low and slow.

Irene

> > >

> > > We are on round 30 of ALA chelation and having an especially bad time. 10

yo daughter is very moody, throwing tantrums like we haven't seen since starting

chelation. We haven't made any changes to supplements or diet. We did miss 3

rounds of chelation due to vacation and very busy weekend schedules, but we

started back 2 weeks ago without any big problems. I'm wondering about a few

things: I mix ALA in juice, it is refrigerated during day but I haven't been

keeping it cool at night, and it has been pretty hot here (esp since our AC is

in the process of being repaired.) Does it need to be kept cool? Also, I have

been mixing it with o.j. but just recently read that pineapple or lemon is

better d/t acidity content. However, I have been using o.j. all along, and

haven't had problems up until now.

> > >

> > > Last p.m. she was very upset that she couldn't fall asleep and had to keep

getting up to urinate. Again, this has happened in the past, and she has been

ruled out for urinary tract infections many times. Once she falls asleep she is

fine. Sounds maybe like an adrenal issue, but I hate to add another supplement

to the mix until I can figure out what has thrown her off.

> > >

> > > Does anyone have any thoughts/ideas/suggestions? We are just about at our

wits end.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

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[Guest guest]

I gave her 1/4 capsule this morning, and she had a good day, overall. I will

continue it for a few days and hope it wasn't just a fluke.

Thanks so much for your help.

> > > >

> > > > We are on round 30 of ALA chelation and having an especially bad time.

10 yo daughter is very moody, throwing tantrums like we haven't seen since

starting chelation. We haven't made any changes to supplements or diet. We did

miss 3 rounds of chelation due to vacation and very busy weekend schedules, but

we started back 2 weeks ago without any big problems. I'm wondering about a few

things: I mix ALA in juice, it is refrigerated during day but I haven't been

keeping it cool at night, and it has been pretty hot here (esp since our AC is

in the process of being repaired.) Does it need to be kept cool? Also, I have

been mixing it with o.j. but just recently read that pineapple or lemon is

better d/t acidity content. However, I have been using o.j. all along, and

haven't had problems up until now.

> > > >

> > > > Last p.m. she was very upset that she couldn't fall asleep and had to

keep getting up to urinate. Again, this has happened in the past, and she has

been ruled out for urinary tract infections many times. Once she falls asleep

she is fine. Sounds maybe like an adrenal issue, but I hate to add another

supplement to the mix until I can figure out what has thrown her off.

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone have any thoughts/ideas/suggestions? We are just about at

our wits end.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

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[Guest guest]

> Last p.m. she was very upset that she couldn't fall asleep and had to keep

getting up to urinate.

I had this problem personally. It meant yeast for me.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I suspect it's at least partly a yeast problem. I just can't figure out why it

spiked suddenly. Can warmer weather make yeast overgrowth worse?

> > Last p.m. she was very upset that she couldn't fall asleep and had to keep

getting up to urinate.

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> I had this problem personally. It meant yeast for me.

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> Dana

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[Guest guest]

> I suspect it's at least partly a yeast problem. I just can't figure out why it

spiked suddenly. Can warmer weather make yeast overgrowth worse?

Yes, for various reasons. For example, do you eat more fruit now?

Once my son no longer needed certain supplements, they tended to make yeast

spike.

Several other issues.

Dana