Re: DAN wants a challenge test

[Guest guest]

He wants a " scientific " justification for chelating the child,

proof that the child is mercury or lead toxic. It is CYA.

You can chelate with DMSA and ALA without a prescription using

the Andy Cutler protocol.

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From: pominvillek <pominvillek@...>

Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 10:36:37 AM

Subject: [ ] DAN wants a challenge test

Our DAN has denied me help with prescribing DMPS for my son. She says that she

would not do anything until we have done a challenge test on him. That to her

means giving him 25mg of DMSA. He is only 31 lbs. Can anyone think of why she

might want to do this before we give him 5mg of DMPS? Thanks

[Guest guest]

My child has a yeast issue and DMPS doesn't seem to cause as much of an issue

with yeast. DMSA effects the white blood cells and does not allow them to be as

effective in fighting the yeast. So that is why I wanted to start with DMPS.

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From: Cowen <mlcowen@...>

Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 10:40:02 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] DAN wants a challenge test

 

He wants a " scientific " justification for chelating the child,

proof that the child is mercury or lead toxic. It is CYA.

You can chelate with DMSA and ALA without a prescription using

the Andy Cutler protocol.

________________________________

From: pominvillek <pominvillek@...>

Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 10:36:37 AM

Subject: [ ] DAN wants a challenge test

Our DAN has denied me help with prescribing DMPS for my son. She says that she

would not do anything until we have done a challenge test on him. That to her

means giving him 25mg of DMSA. He is only 31 lbs. Can anyone think of why she

might want to do this before we give him 5mg of DMPS? Thanks

[Guest guest]

I would think that DMPS would cause yeast as well. It is a side effect of

chelation, no matter what the chelator or method of dosing,

(oral,TD,suppositories, etc..)

TJ

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From: Kathleen Pominville <pominvillek@...>

Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 7:50:19 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] DAN wants a challenge test

 

My child has a yeast issue and DMPS doesn't seem to cause as much of an issue

with yeast. DMSA effects the white blood cells and does not allow them to be as

effective in fighting the yeast. So that is why I wanted to start with DMPS.

________________________________

From: Cowen <mlcowen@...>

Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 10:40:02 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] DAN wants a challenge test

 

He wants a " scientific " justification for chelating the child,

proof that the child is mercury or lead toxic. It is CYA.

You can chelate with DMSA and ALA without a prescription using

the Andy Cutler protocol.

________________________________

From: pominvillek <pominvillek@...>

Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 10:36:37 AM

Subject: [ ] DAN wants a challenge test

Our DAN has denied me help with prescribing DMPS for my son. She says that she

would not do anything until we have done a challenge test on him. That to her

means giving him 25mg of DMSA. He is only 31 lbs. Can anyone think of why she

might want to do this before we give him 5mg of DMPS? Thanks

[Guest guest]

Andy has stated that DMPS seems to cause a lot less yeast problems than DMSA.

Most people report the same and find DMPS to be more tolerable.

>

> I would think that DMPS would cause yeast as well. It is a side effect of

> chelation, no matter what the chelator or method of dosing,

> (oral,TD,suppositories, etc..)

> TJ

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Kathleen Pominville <pominvillek@...>

>

> Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 7:50:19 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] DAN wants a challenge test

>

>  

> My child has a yeast issue and DMPS doesn't seem to cause as much of an issue

> with yeast. DMSA effects the white blood cells and does not allow them to be

as

> effective in fighting the yeast. So that is why I wanted to start with DMPS.

>

> ________________________________

> From: Cowen <mlcowen@...>

>

> Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 10:40:02 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] DAN wants a challenge test

>

>  

> He wants a " scientific " justification for chelating the child,

> proof that the child is mercury or lead toxic. It is CYA.

>

> You can chelate with DMSA and ALA without a prescription using

> the Andy Cutler protocol.

>

> ________________________________

> From: pominvillek <pominvillek@...>

>

> Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 10:36:37 AM

> Subject: [ ] DAN wants a challenge test

>

> Our DAN has denied me help with prescribing DMPS for my son. She says that she

> would not do anything until we have done a challenge test on him. That to her

> means giving him 25mg of DMSA. He is only 31 lbs. Can anyone think of why she

> might want to do this before we give him 5mg of DMPS? Thanks

>

>

[Guest guest]

You should ditch the DAN doctor and get a hair test since challenge tests don't

provide useful information. If you really want your kid to get better you should

take chelation into your own hands and follow Andy's protocol. Most DAN doctors

prescribe inappropriate and dangerous protocols so things like this are not

shocking.

Also, dosing should not exceed 1/2 mg/lb so 25mg is clearly too much for a 31

pound kid. I weigh 140lbs and take 25mg.

>

> Our DAN has denied me help with prescribing DMPS for my son. She says that she

would not do anything until we have done a challenge test on him. That to her

means giving him 25mg of DMSA. He is only 31 lbs. Can anyone think of why she

might want to do this before we give him 5mg of DMPS? Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

Always remember - it is YOUR child, and at the end of the day YOU have to live

with the results. Period. The doctor works for YOU. If the doctor is

uncooperative, you hire a new one, just like you would if the plumber wanted to

move your faucet somewhere you didn't want it.

>

> Our DAN has denied me help with prescribing DMPS for my son. She says that she

would not do anything until we have done a challenge test on him. That to her

means giving him 25mg of DMSA. He is only 31 lbs. Can anyone think of why she

might want to do this before we give him 5mg of DMPS? Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, she wants to do this because DMSA is less powerful that DMPS. And less

harmful on the body, The chelators are DMSA, EDTA and DMPS.. Have you done

your research on all of these chelators??? You might want to read : CHILDREN

WITH STARVING BRAINS , BY DR. Jacquelynn McCandless, this book explains the

correct protocol for chelating.. She is also a neurologist and has a vaccine

damaged granddaughter.. This kind of bothers me that your child is only

31lbs. You have to get the body ready for chelating, you can't just jump

into it.. Please read the book:: if you order her book on her website, you

can be invited to join her e mail list and she will answer any of your

questions direct.. I hope this helps and good luck with your child.. My son

is 21yrs. Old , so I have been doing this a very long time.. Take care..

Corinne

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From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of mosaictm

Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 10:50 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: DAN wants a challenge test

Always remember - it is YOUR child, and at the end of the day YOU have to

live with the results. Period. The doctor works for YOU. If the doctor is

uncooperative, you hire a new one, just like you would if the plumber wanted

to move your faucet somewhere you didn't want it.

>

> Our DAN has denied me help with prescribing DMPS for my son. She says that

she would not do anything until we have done a challenge test on him. That

to her means giving him 25mg of DMSA. He is only 31 lbs. Can anyone think of

why she might want to do this before we give him 5mg of DMPS? Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

Get a new DAN! Also you can do AC chelation without a Dr.

> >

> > Our DAN has denied me help with prescribing DMPS for my son. She says that

> she would not do anything until we have done a challenge test on him. That

> to her means giving him 25mg of DMSA. He is only 31 lbs. Can anyone think of

> why she might want to do this before we give him 5mg of DMPS? Thanks

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Avoid challenge tests and read the Andy Cutler protocol

http://onibasu.com/wiki/Cutler_protocol

>

> Our DAN has denied me help with prescribing DMPS for my son. She says that she

would not do anything until we have done a challenge test on him. That to her

means giving him 25mg of DMSA. He is only 31 lbs. Can anyone think of why she

might want to do this before we give him 5mg of DMPS? Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi, she wants to do this because DMSA is less powerful that DMPS.

Incorrect.

> And less

> harmful on the body,

incorrect.

> The chelators are DMSA, EDTA and DMPS..

Incomplete. ALA is the most powerful chelator available.

>Have you done

> your research on all of these chelators?

Ummm, yes, I have ;-)

you may find my 2 books informative.

>?? You might want to read : CHILDREN

> WITH STARVING BRAINS , BY DR. Jacquelynn McCandless, this book explains the

> correct protocol for chelating.. She is also a neurologist

Actually not, a psychiatrist.

>and has a vaccine

> damaged granddaughter.. This kind of bothers me that your child is only

> 31lbs. You have to get the body ready for chelating, you can't just jump

> into it.. Please read the book:: if you order her book on her website, you

> can be invited to join her e mail list and she will answer any of your

> questions direct.. I hope this helps and good luck with your child.. My son

> is 21yrs. Old , so I have been doing this a very long time.. Take care..

Actually I've found 's Nourishing Hope for Autism book fairly

useful and informative - and of course I like mine but then I wrote them and

people might think I'm partial to them ;-)

The nice, clear, simple, lucid description of how to chelate properly is on

pages 225-237 of Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities.

Andy

http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children

http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD