Re: Remember the Amish study?

[Guest guest]

A sane person with a modicum of knowledge of genetics or biology simply can not

believe autism is genetic. A genetic cause is ruled out definitively by the

increase in incidence over less than a generation.

Insanity is induced by medical training. This has a catastrophic effect on

society, with autism being but one facet.

As far as factual information goes, while Wikipedia is surprisingly innacurate

the below is quite interesting.

I recall discussion on the list that someone had done some sort of survey of

Amish communities and determined the incidence of autism (and possibly other

disorders) was very low. Does anyone have further information on this they can

share with me?

Andy

http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children

http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

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> Subject: PYSCH TODAY: British develop brain scan to diagnose autistic adults

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jennifermichelle@..., " KRStagliano " <KRStagliano@...>, " Reda " <reda3@...>,

" frodaddi " <frodaddi@...>, " Gail Burke " <gailb7@...>, " gilles "

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hilarydowning@..., jackie@..., jbh@..., " jdonnelly " <jdonnelly@...>,

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ccdaddy57@..., " john_abramson " <john_abramson@...>, nneKing@...,

egladen@..., " " <alz7776@...>, autismrr@..., " Kent Heckenlively "

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angele.oconnell@..., julieobradovic@..., julieobradovic@..., " Dr. Todd M.

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<rory_cameron@...>, andreas2@..., " abear2 " <abear2@...>, drbobsears@..., " Mayer

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> Researchers in the UK develop scan that diagnoses autism. Psychology Today

http://news.google.com/news/search?pz=1 & cf=all & ned=us & hl=en & q=autism & as_qdr=d & as\

_drrb=q & cf=all & start=10

> Scientists in the U.K. have developed a brain scan, they say, that can

diagnose autism in adults in 15 minutes with 90 percent accuracy?

> That's an amazing, mind-boggling assertion, and one that was published today

in The Journal of Neuroscience.

> The most exciting aspect of this news is that developers hope it can soon be

used to screen children for autism spectrum disorders.

> The paper about this groundbreaking news was written by Ecker, MSc,

PhD, a lecturer in the Department of Forensic and Neurodevelopmental Sciences at

the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College London, and her colleague, Dr.

, professor of Psychiatry and Brain Maturation.

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[Guest guest]

all I know is whenever some doc tries to convince me to re-vaccinate my son

like one did last fall with H1N1, I ask them to show me where all the Amish

children are buried first. This usually shuts the doctor up. If that

doesn't work then I show them a contract in which they would have to agree

to pay us 3.2 million dollars if the slightest thing goes wrong. That

definitely shuts him up.

[Guest guest]

Hey Andy--been awhile  since I posted---I remember about three years ago about

a survey or something about an Amish community study and the only children that

were ASD had come to the Amish community after they had received vaccinations

and before they came to the community---I am sure someone will not agree-----but

that is OK---take care and If I can find --will send it to you..---Bill

From: andrewhallcutler <AndyCutler@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Remember the " Amish study " ?

Date: Saturday, October 9, 2010, 4:04 PM

 

A sane person with a modicum of knowledge of genetics or biology simply can not

believe autism is genetic. A genetic cause is ruled out definitively by the

increase in incidence over less than a generation.

Insanity is induced by medical training. This has a catastrophic effect on

society, with autism being but one facet.

As far as factual information goes, while Wikipedia is surprisingly innacurate

the below is quite interesting.

I recall discussion on the list that someone had done some sort of survey of

Amish communities and determined the incidence of autism (and possibly other

disorders) was very low. Does anyone have further information on this they can

share with me?

Andy

http://www.noamalgam.com/index.html

Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

http://www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

http://www.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html

Nourishing Hope for Autism: Nutrition Intervention for Healing Our Children

http://www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD

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> From: Anne Dachel <adachel06@...>

> Subject: PYSCH TODAY: British develop brain scan to diagnose autistic adults

> rmmoore1@..., fightingautism@..., " Jane Milota " <janeypooh67@...>,

itxgirl7@..., isabellathomas@..., pawneeprance@..., Olmsted.dan@..., " Kelli Ann

" <kellianndavis@...>, wfm@..., " Donna Rode " <rodehill@...>, " Simpson "

<mmbsimp@...>, " Tyler Wynne " <tcw79@...>, rdurano@..., AReynolds.autism@...,

lkhabakus@..., Claudinelisslaw@..., khalif8888@..., " kerns "

<kerns@...>, " kevanne88 " <kevanne88@...>, " Keys2UA " <Keys2UA@...>,

jennifermichelle@..., " KRStagliano " <KRStagliano@...>, " Reda " <reda3@...>,

" frodaddi " <frodaddi@...>, " Gail Burke " <gailb7@...>, " gilles "

<AutismHelp4WA@...>, " Hanchette6 " <Hanchette6@...>, heatherob@...,

hilarydowning@..., jackie@..., jbh@..., " jdonnelly " <jdonnelly@...>,

Jeff84deb@...,

> jesusnowworld@..., jjarvis@..., jneve@..., joanneantonetti@..., ccdaddy57@...,

" john_abramson " <john_abramson@...>, nneKing@..., egladen@..., "

" <alz7776@...>, autismrr@..., " Kent Heckenlively " <kheckenlively@...>,

" Boyd E Haley " <behaley@...>, faun1020@..., angele.oconnell@...,

julieobradovic@..., julieobradovic@..., " Dr. Todd M. Elsner " <drtodd72712@...>,

jim@..., rick_tallman1@..., " Janak " <cj1951@...>, " G King "

<paulgkingphd@...>, reneetoccodc@..., " Tim Bolen " <jurimed2@...>,

martinfam5@..., sidellnagle@..., Kheinz@..., Jherden2@..., chalkola@...,

d_ann73@..., donaldpfau@..., bindlfamilychiropractic@..., iruroden@...,

dms515@..., daynaboor@...,

> Kbartol@..., JEMORD@..., tcarr@..., doc@..., skenitz@..., joller@...,

kfsdo00@..., " Jon S Poling " <jon1275@...>, ldrdoc@..., " bowman "

<drjrbowman1@...>, " Jim Manley " <jimmanleylaw@...>, " Rory Cameron "

<rory_cameron@...>, andreas2@..., " abear2 " <abear2@...>, drbobsears@..., " Mayer

Eisenstein " <mayer@...>, tjpete@..., lrupe@..., wakersaj@..., halvorsen@...

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http://news.google.com/news/search?pz=1 & cf=all & ned=us & hl=en & q=autism & as_qdr=d & as\

_drrb=q & cf=all & start=10

> Scientists in the U.K. have developed a brain scan, they say, that can

diagnose autism in adults in 15 minutes with 90 percent accuracy?

> That's an amazing, mind-boggling assertion, and one that was published today

in The Journal of Neuroscience.

> The most exciting aspect of this news is that developers hope it can soon be

used to screen children for autism spectrum disorders.

> The paper about this groundbreaking news was written by Ecker, MSc,

PhD, a lecturer in the Department of Forensic and Neurodevelopmental Sciences at

the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College London, and her colleague, Dr.

, professor of Psychiatry and Brain Maturation.

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[Guest guest]

FWIW, I was curious about this and had a brief conversation with an Amish woman

from Indiana a few weeks who was selling at our farmer's market. She told me

that each family makes their own decision regarding vaccination and she said

that her children were vaccinated.

When I explained why I wanted to know (the ambiguity regarding vaccination and

the incidence of autism spectrum disorders in Amish), she had no further

information. I kind of think she didn't know about it, because she was happy and

eager to explain about the individual decisions to vaccinate, but had a stunned

look on her face when I mentioned the autism link.

KD Ironside

http://whatidontknow.net

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> > From: Anne Dachel <adachel06@>

> > Subject: PYSCH TODAY: British develop brain scan to diagnose autistic adults

> > rmmoore1@, fightingautism@, " Jane Milota " <janeypooh67@>, itxgirl7@,

isabellathomas@, pawneeprance@, Olmsted.dan@, " Kelli Ann "

<kellianndavis@>, wfm@, " Donna Rode " <rodehill@>, " Simpson " <mmbsimp@>, " Tyler

Wynne " <tcw79@>, rdurano@, AReynolds.autism@, lkhabakus@, Claudinelisslaw@,

khalif8888@, " kerns " <kerns@>, " kevanne88 " <kevanne88@>, " Keys2UA "

<Keys2UA@>, jennifermichelle@, " KRStagliano " <KRStagliano@>, " Reda "

<reda3@>, " frodaddi " <frodaddi@>, " Gail Burke " <gailb7@>, " gilles "

<AutismHelp4WA@>, " Hanchette6 " <Hanchette6@>, heatherob@, hilarydowning@,

jackie@, jbh@, " jdonnelly " <jdonnelly@>, Jeff84deb@,

> > jesusnowworld@, jjarvis@, jneve@, joanneantonetti@, ccdaddy57@,

" john_abramson " <john_abramson@>, nneKing@, egladen@, " "

<alz7776@>, autismrr@, " Kent Heckenlively " <kheckenlively@>, " Boyd E Haley "

<behaley@>, faun1020@, angele.oconnell@, julieobradovic@, julieobradovic@, " Dr.

Todd M. Elsner " <drtodd72712@>, jim@, rick_tallman1@, " Janak " <cj1951@>,

" G King " <paulgkingphd@>, reneetoccodc@, " Tim Bolen " <jurimed2@>,

martinfam5@, sidellnagle@, Kheinz@, Jherden2@, chalkola@, d_ann73@, donaldpfau@,

bindlfamilychiropractic@, iruroden@, dms515@, daynaboor@,

> > Kbartol@, JEMORD@, tcarr@, doc@, skenitz@, joller@, kfsdo00@, " Jon S

Poling " <jon1275@>, ldrdoc@, " bowman " <drjrbowman1@>, " Jim Manley "

<jimmanleylaw@>, " Rory Cameron " <rory_cameron@>, andreas2@, " abear2 " <abear2@>,

drbobsears@, " Mayer Eisenstein " <mayer@>, tjpete@, lrupe@, wakersaj@, halvorsen@

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http://news.google.com/news/search?pz=1 & cf=all & ned=us & hl=en & q=autism & as_qdr=d & as\

_drrb=q & cf=all & start=10

> > Scientists in the U.K. have developed a brain scan, they say, that can

diagnose autism in adults in 15 minutes with 90 percent accuracy?

> > That's an amazing, mind-boggling assertion, and one that was published today

in The Journal of Neuroscience.

> > The most exciting aspect of this news is that developers hope it can soon be

used to screen children for autism spectrum disorders.

> > The paper about this groundbreaking news was written by Ecker,

MSc, PhD, a lecturer in the Department of Forensic and Neurodevelopmental

Sciences at the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College London, and her

colleague, Dr. , professor of Psychiatry and Brain Maturation.

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[Guest guest]

The Amish study you are referring to is most likely the one done by

AgeofAutism.com editor Dan Olmsted while he worked at United Press

International.

The Age of Autism: The Amish anomaly

By Dan Olmsted

UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL

Lancaster, PA, Apr. 18 (UPI) -- Part 1 of 2.

Where are the autistic Amish? Here in Lancaster County, heart of Pennsylvania

Dutch country, there should be well over 100 with some form of the disorder.

I have come here to find them, but so far my mission has failed, and the very

few I have identified raise some very interesting questions about some widely

held views on autism.

The mainstream scientific consensus says autism is a complex genetic disorder,

one that has been around for millennia at roughly the same prevalence. That

prevalence is now considered to be 1 in every 166 children born in the United

States.

Applying that model to Lancaster County, there ought to be 130 Amish men, women

and children here with Autism Spectrum Disorder.

Well over 100, in rough terms.

Typically, half would harbor milder variants such as Asperger's Disorder or the

catch-all Pervasive Development Disorder, Not Otherwise Specified -- PDD-NOS for

short.

So let's drop those from our calculation, even though " mild " is a relative term

when it comes to autism.

That means upwards of 50 Amish people of all ages should be living in Lancaster

County with full-syndrome autism, the " classic autism " first described in 1943

by child psychiatrist Leo Kanner at s Hopkins University. The full-syndrome

disorder is hard to miss, characterized by " markedly abnormal or impaired

development in social interaction and communication and a markedly restricted

repertoire of activities and interests, " according to the Diagnostic and

Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.

Why bother looking for them among the Amish? Because they could hold clues to

the cause of autism.

The first half-dozen articles in this ongoing series on the roots and rise of

autism examined the initial studies and early accounts of the disorder, first

identified by Kanner among 11 U.S. children born starting in 1931.

Kanner wrote that his 1938 encounter with a child from Mississippi, identified

as T., " made me aware of a behavior pattern not known to me or anyone

else theretofore. " Kanner literally wrote the book on " Child Psychiatry, "

published in 1934.

If Kanner was correct -- if autism was new and increasingly prevalent --

something must have happened in the 1930s to trigger those first autistic cases.

Genetic disorders do not begin suddenly or increase dramatically in prevalence

in a short period of time.

That is why it is worth looking for autistic Amish -- to test reasoning against

reality. Largely cut off for hundreds of years from American culture and

scientific progress, the Amish might have had less exposure to some new factor

triggering autism in the rest of population.

Surprising, but no one seems to have looked.

Of course, the Amish world is insular by nature; finding a small subset of Amish

is a challenge by definition. Many Amish, particularly Old Order, ride

horse-and-buggies, eschew electricity, do not attend public school, will not

pose for pictures and do not chat casually with the " English, " as they warily

call the non-Amish.

Still, some Amish today interact with the outside world in many ways. Some

drive, use phones, see doctors and send out Christmas cards with family photos.

They all still refer to themselves as " Plain, " but the definition of that word

varies quite a bit.

So far, from sources inside and outside the Amish community, I have identified

three Amish residents of Lancaster County who apparently have full-syndrome

autism, all of them children.

A local woman told me there is one classroom with about 30 " special-needs " Amish

children. In that classroom, there is one autistic Amish child.

Another autistic Amish child does not go to school.

The third is that woman's pre-school-age daughter.

If there were more, she said, she would know it.

What I learned about those children is the subject of the next column.

PART 2: The Age of Autism:

UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL

Leola, PA, Apr. 19 (UPI) -- Part 2 of 2.

Three-year old is napping when I arrive at the spare, neat, cheerful house

on Musser School Road near the town of Leola in Lancaster County.

She is the reason I have driven through the budding countryside on this perfect

spring day, but I really do not need to meet her.

In the last column, I wrote about trying to find autistic Amish people here in

the heart of Pennsylvania Dutch country, and noted there should be dozens of

them -- if autism occurs at the same prevalence as the rest of the United

States.

So far, there is evidence of only three, all of them children, the oldest age 9

or 10. is one of them. I found out about her through a pediatrician in

Richmond, Va., Dr. Megson. I had been asking around for quite some time

about autism and the Amish, and she provided the first direct link.

Megson said she would give my name to this child's mother, who could call if she

chose. A few days later the phone rang. It was Stacey-jean Inion, an

Amish-Mennonite woman. She, her husband Brent and their four children live

simply, but they do drive a vehicle and have a telephone. After a few

pleasantries, I told her about my trying to find autistic Amish.

Here is what she said, verbatim:

" Unfortunately our autistic daughter -- who's doing very well, she's been

diagnosed with very, very severe autism -- is adopted from China, and so she

would have had all her vaccines in China before we got her, and then she had

most of her vaccines given to her in the United States before we got her.

" So we're probably not the pure case you're looking for. "

Maybe not, but it was stunning that Inion, the first autistic Amish person

I could find, turned out to be adopted -- from another country, no less. It also

was surprising that Stacey-jean launched unbidden into vaccines, because the

Amish have a religious exemption from vaccination and presumably would not have

given it much thought.

She said a minority of Amish families do, in fact, vaccinate their children

these days, partly at the urging of public health officials.

" Almost every Amish family I know has had somebody from the health department

knock on our door and try to convince us to get vaccines for our children, " she

said. " The younger Amish more and more are getting vaccines. It's a minority of

children who vaccinate, but that is changing now. "

Did she know of any other autistic Amish? Two more children, she said.

" One of them, we're very certain it was a vaccine reaction, even though the

government would not agree with that. "

Federal health officials have said there is no association between vaccinations

and autism or learning disabilities.

" The other one I'm not sure if this child was vaccinated or not, " she added.

During my visit to their home, I asked Stacey-jean to explain why she attributed

the first case to vaccines.

" There's one family that we know, their daughter had a vaccine reaction and is

now autistic. She was walking and functioning and a happy bright child, and 24

hours after she had her vaccine, her legs went limp and she had a typical

high-pitched scream. They called the doctor and the doctor said it was fine -- a

lot of high-pitched screaming goes along with it.

" She completely quit speaking, " Stacey-jean said. " She completely quit making

eye contact with people. She went in her own world. "

This happened, Stacey-jean said, at " something like 15 months. " The child is now

about 8.

For similar reasons, Inion's Chinese background is intriguing. China,

India and Indonesia are among countries moving quickly to mass-vaccination

programs. In some vaccines, they use a mercury-based preservative called

thimerosal that keeps multiple-dose vials from becoming contaminated by repeated

needle sticks.

Thimerosal was phased out of U.S. vaccines starting in 1999, after health

officials became concerned about the amount of mercury infants and children were

receiving. The officials said they simply were erring on the side of caution,

and that all evidence favors rejection of any link between Autism Spectrum

Disorders and thimerosal, or vaccines themselves.

's vaccinations in China -- all given in one day at about age 15 months --

may well have contained thimerosal; the United States had stopped using it by

the time she was born, but other countries with millions to vaccinate had not.

Stacey-jean said photographs of taken in China before she was vaccinated

showed a smiling alert child looking squarely at the camera. Her original

adoptive family in the United States, overwhelmed trying to cope with an

autistic child, gave up for re-adoption. The Inions took her in knowing

her diagnosis of severe autism.

I tried hard -- and am still trying -- to find people who know about other

autistic Amish. Of the local health and social service agency personnel in

Lancaster, some said they dealt with Amish people with disabilities, such as

mental retardation, but none recalled seeing an autistic Amish.

Still, I could be trapped in a feedback loop: The Amish I am likeliest to know

about -- because they have the most contact with the outside world -- also are

likeliest to adopt a special-needs child such as from outside the

community, and likeliest to have their children vaccinated.

Another qualifier: The Inions are converts to the Amish-Mennonite religion

(Brent is an Asian-American). They simply might not know about any number of

autistic Amish sheltered quietly with their families for decades.

It also is possible the isolated Amish gene pool might confer some kind of

immunity to autism -- which might be a useful topic for research.

Whatever the case, Stacey-jean thinks the autistic Amish are nowhere to be

found.

" It is so much more rare among our people, " she said. " My husband just said last

week that so far we've never met a family that lives a healthy lifestyle and

does not vaccinate their children that has an autistic child. We haven't come

across one yet. "

" Everywhere I go (outside the Amish community) I find children who are autistic,

just because I have an autistic daughter -- in the grocery store, in the park,

wherever I go. In the Amish community, I simply don't find that. "

UPI researcher Pearson contributed to this article.

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> > From: Anne Dachel <adachel06@>

> > Subject: PYSCH TODAY: British develop brain scan to diagnose autistic adults

> > rmmoore1@, fightingautism@, " Jane Milota " <janeypooh67@>, itxgirl7@,

isabellathomas@, pawneeprance@, Olmsted.dan@, " Kelli Ann "

<kellianndavis@>, wfm@, " Donna Rode " <rodehill@>, " Simpson " <mmbsimp@>, " Tyler

Wynne " <tcw79@>, rdurano@, AReynolds.autism@, lkhabakus@, Claudinelisslaw@,

khalif8888@, " kerns " <kerns@>, " kevanne88 " <kevanne88@>, " Keys2UA "

<Keys2UA@>, jennifermichelle@, " KRStagliano " <KRStagliano@>, " Reda "

<reda3@>, " frodaddi " <frodaddi@>, " Gail Burke " <gailb7@>, " gilles "

<AutismHelp4WA@>, " Hanchette6 " <Hanchette6@>, heatherob@, hilarydowning@,

jackie@, jbh@, " jdonnelly " <jdonnelly@>, Jeff84deb@,

> > jesusnowworld@, jjarvis@, jneve@, joanneantonetti@, ccdaddy57@,

" john_abramson " <john_abramson@>, nneKing@, egladen@, " "

<alz7776@>, autismrr@, " Kent Heckenlively " <kheckenlively@>, " Boyd E Haley "

<behaley@>, faun1020@, angele.oconnell@, julieobradovic@, julieobradovic@, " Dr.

Todd M. Elsner " <drtodd72712@>, jim@, rick_tallman1@, " Janak " <cj1951@>,

" G King " <paulgkingphd@>, reneetoccodc@, " Tim Bolen " <jurimed2@>,

martinfam5@, sidellnagle@, Kheinz@, Jherden2@, chalkola@, d_ann73@, donaldpfau@,

bindlfamilychiropractic@, iruroden@, dms515@, daynaboor@,

> > Kbartol@, JEMORD@, tcarr@, doc@, skenitz@, joller@, kfsdo00@, " Jon S

Poling " <jon1275@>, ldrdoc@, " bowman " <drjrbowman1@>, " Jim Manley "

<jimmanleylaw@>, " Rory Cameron " <rory_cameron@>, andreas2@, " abear2 " <abear2@>,

drbobsears@, " Mayer Eisenstein " <mayer@>, tjpete@, lrupe@, wakersaj@, halvorsen@

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> > Researchers in the UK develop scan that diagnoses autism. Psychology Today

http://news.google.com/news/search?pz=1 & cf=all & ned=us & hl=en & q=autism & as_qdr=d & as\

_drrb=q & cf=all & start=10

> > Scientists in the U.K. have developed a brain scan, they say, that can

diagnose autism in adults in 15 minutes with 90 percent accuracy?

> > That's an amazing, mind-boggling assertion, and one that was published today

in The Journal of Neuroscience.

> > The most exciting aspect of this news is that developers hope it can soon be

used to screen children for autism spectrum disorders.

> > The paper about this groundbreaking news was written by Ecker,

MSc, PhD, a lecturer in the Department of Forensic and Neurodevelopmental

Sciences at the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College London, and her

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[Guest guest]

BTW, some time later during a debate on Larry King Live Dr. Max Wiznitzer of

Case Western Reserve University attempted to debunk Olmsted.

Anyone who has read the Simpsonwood transcripts already knows the CDC and drug

companies will never conduct an vaccinated versus un-vaccinated Autism study.

The Larry King Live discussion centered around the idea of conducting a

vaccinated versus un-vaccinated study using the Amish, since they largely do NOT

vaccinate.

Old Max attempted to convince the viewing audience claiming to be the

neurologist for the Amish community.

There might be a you tube video of that?

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> > From: Anne Dachel <adachel06@>

> > Subject: PYSCH TODAY: British develop brain scan to diagnose autistic adults

> > rmmoore1@, fightingautism@, " Jane Milota " <janeypooh67@>, itxgirl7@,

isabellathomas@, pawneeprance@, Olmsted.dan@, " Kelli Ann "

<kellianndavis@>, wfm@, " Donna Rode " <rodehill@>, " Simpson " <mmbsimp@>, " Tyler

Wynne " <tcw79@>, rdurano@, AReynolds.autism@, lkhabakus@, Claudinelisslaw@,

khalif8888@, " kerns " <kerns@>, " kevanne88 " <kevanne88@>, " Keys2UA "

<Keys2UA@>, jennifermichelle@, " KRStagliano " <KRStagliano@>, " Reda "

<reda3@>, " frodaddi " <frodaddi@>, " Gail Burke " <gailb7@>, " gilles "

<AutismHelp4WA@>, " Hanchette6 " <Hanchette6@>, heatherob@, hilarydowning@,

jackie@, jbh@, " jdonnelly " <jdonnelly@>, Jeff84deb@,

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" john_abramson " <john_abramson@>, nneKing@, egladen@, " "

<alz7776@>, autismrr@, " Kent Heckenlively " <kheckenlively@>, " Boyd E Haley "

<behaley@>, faun1020@, angele.oconnell@, julieobradovic@, julieobradovic@, " Dr.

Todd M. Elsner " <drtodd72712@>, jim@, rick_tallman1@, " Janak " <cj1951@>,

" G King " <paulgkingphd@>, reneetoccodc@, " Tim Bolen " <jurimed2@>,

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bindlfamilychiropractic@, iruroden@, dms515@, daynaboor@,

> > Kbartol@, JEMORD@, tcarr@, doc@, skenitz@, joller@, kfsdo00@, " Jon S

Poling " <jon1275@>, ldrdoc@, " bowman " <drjrbowman1@>, " Jim Manley "

<jimmanleylaw@>, " Rory Cameron " <rory_cameron@>, andreas2@, " abear2 " <abear2@>,

drbobsears@, " Mayer Eisenstein " <mayer@>, tjpete@, lrupe@, wakersaj@, halvorsen@

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> > Researchers in the UK develop scan that diagnoses autism. Psychology Today

http://news.google.com/news/search?pz=1 & cf=all & ned=us & hl=en & q=autism & as_qdr=d & as\

_drrb=q & cf=all & start=10

> > Scientists in the U.K. have developed a brain scan, they say, that can

diagnose autism in adults in 15 minutes with 90 percent accuracy?

> > That's an amazing, mind-boggling assertion, and one that was published today

in The Journal of Neuroscience.

> > The most exciting aspect of this news is that developers hope it can soon be

used to screen children for autism spectrum disorders.

> > The paper about this groundbreaking news was written by Ecker,

MSc, PhD, a lecturer in the Department of Forensic and Neurodevelopmental

Sciences at the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College London, and her

colleague, Dr. , professor of Psychiatry and Brain Maturation.

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